3 stupid myths republicans believe

[bedowin62]

so how does Trickle-UP work leftardz? and where is it working? and if it isnt why?

going to come with that old "held hostage" or "obstructed" thing again?

that begs the question:

How is it people the Left considers themselves to be superior to in every way always have to fall back on excuses how people they consider inferior manage to hinder all that "progress"?

 

[bedowin62]

all of the sudden the Left is saying huge numbers of people actually dont want to work. they would be the first to soil themselves in a hissy fit if a Republican said that


idiots and hypocrites

Can you please stop making a complete idiot yourself? Or are you simply not capable of stopping yourself?

It's the Bureau of Labor Statistics making that claim. The BLS is not the "left." I'm just repeating their claim.

really?

oh good; show me where the BLS says all those people "dont want to work"

you can do it chump!!

and what was your number again? 94% or something?/

go for it!

 

[TakeAStepBack]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists
Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.
95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

I'm willing to bet that neither the OP or the LOLberals who thanked him for the post can see the complete irony in the bolded above.

 

[The Rabbi]

all of the sudden the Left is saying huge numbers of people actually dont want to work. they would be the first to soil themselves in a hissy fit if a Republican said that


idiots and hypocrites

Can you please stop making a complete idiot yourself? Or are you simply not capable of stopping yourself?

It's the Bureau of Labor Statistics making that claim. The BLS is not the "left." I'm just repeating their claim.

really?

oh good; show me where the BLS says all those people "dont want to work"

you can do it chump!!

and what was your number again? 94% or something?/

go for it!

He can't. He's lying.

 

[bedowin62]

Socialism was never meant by its founders to be anything more than a stepping stone to communism.

it's laughable watching left-wing idiots cry like babies and whine that others dont know what socialism is; and out of the other corner of their mouths rabidly defend it.

also the Left point out that many things in America are examples of socialism; the police, libraries, teachers...anything public; and advocate MORE OF THAT; but just dont call them Socialists


libs are losers who lie to themselves; and always try to have it both ways

 

[Wry Catcher]

1) They do pay for themselves. You see, if you have more people paying taxes on more economic activity you can actually make MORE money then you currently have. In fact, every time taxes are cut, the economy improves and the treasury brings more money in. It's called the Laffer Curve, look it up.

2) The leadership sure leans that way. Progressives called themselves progressives because they believe in progresing society towards socialism/communism step by step. Through evolution rather than revolution. When progressives were exposed in the 1920s, they scared the heck out of the population and so rebranded themselves as liberals, while traditional "liberal" viewpoints were adopted by conservatives and libertarians.

3) Who the heck are you to determine what too wealthy is? If someone is blessed more for his labor, why should I have a right to force him to pay for what I want to be done? Why should I be angry at my brother because of his success? Rather, I should rejoice in it. And persuade and encourage him to use his resources wisely. But how he ultimately uses it is between him and God. Why do you want to be a robber in your heart?

1) bullshit. Only 4.6 jobs were created per million dollar cut from Bush's tax cuts. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. All they do is stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. Only a con would think less revenue is a good thing.

2) typical fluff. Why do you bother?

3) so you think it is a good thing only the wealthy have seen income gains since the 30s?

about one million more Americans were working in the Bush years then are working now.

true story

pretty comical; a left-wing idiot whining that the Bush tax cuts didn't create many jobs.
what did we get for the almost $1 trillion Obama Stimulus? do any of those jobs still exist?

be honest with your self leftard; do they still exist?

You've proved two things in the posts above: 1) You have been totally brainwashed by the conservative media; and, 2) you are uneducated and simply parrot what it is you heard from the conservative media.

Calling others stupid isn't a winning strategy, and it makes you appear to be what you call others. Provide evidence probative to prove cutting taxes benefits the many and not the few.

Years ago a Republican Governor in CA returned a small amount of money to all of us who paid state income tax. We all received $38.00 from Gov. Wilson. Money which could have been spent to increase our water storage something that would have paid dividends in this drought year.

Wilson was being a demagogue, not fiscally conservative. A fiscal conservative puts the roof in repair before it collapses and destroys the house. Why so many of you buy the propaganda of the GOP is scary.

 

[Faun]

all of the sudden the Left is saying huge numbers of people actually dont want to work. they would be the first to soil themselves in a hissy fit if a Republican said that


idiots and hypocrites

Can you please stop making a complete idiot yourself? Or are you simply not capable of stopping yourself?

It's the Bureau of Labor Statistics making that claim. The BLS is not the "left." I'm just repeating their claim.

LMAO!! you poor loser!!

tsk tsk tsk

seems i've wounded your fragile smug liberal ego; now you are reduced to ankle-biting me with pathetic crybaby stupidity

go hang yourself

Aww, you poor, demented rightard. It's not my ego that's wounded ... it's my foot that's hurting; and that's from kicking your ass so hard. And you're delusional to think your hollow, limp-wristed jabs have any potential to wound my ego.

And why would I hang myself when it's so much more fun making a complete ass out of rightards like you? Hell, I'm still laughing at your retarded claim that it's Obama's fault that 4.5 million jobs were lost while Bush was president.

 

[The Rabbi]

1) bullshit. Only 4.6 jobs were created per million dollar cut from Bush's tax cuts. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. All they do is stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. Only a con would think less revenue is a good thing.

2) typical fluff. Why do you bother?

3) so you think it is a good thing only the wealthy have seen income gains since the 30s?

about one million more Americans were working in the Bush years then are working now.

true story

pretty comical; a left-wing idiot whining that the Bush tax cuts didn't create many jobs.
what did we get for the almost $1 trillion Obama Stimulus? do any of those jobs still exist?

be honest with your self leftard; do they still exist?

You've proved two things in the posts above: 1) You have been totally brainwashed by the conservative media; and, 2) you are uneducated and simply parrot what it is you heard from the conservative media.

Calling others stupid isn't a winning strategy, and it makes you appear to be what you call others. Provide evidence probative to prove cutting taxes benefits the many and not the few.

Years ago a Republican Governor in CA returned a small amount of money to all of us who paid state income tax. We all received $38.00 from Gov. Wilson. Money which could have been spent to increase our water storage something that would have paid dividends in this drought year.

Wilson was being a demagogue, not fiscally conservative. A fiscal conservative puts the roof in repair before it collapses and destroys the house. Why so many of you buy the propaganda of the GOP is scary.

You klnow, if you want to refute something someone writes, you need to provide some kind of argument, fact, or link. Merely telling him he's brainwashed just isnt very persuasive.
But you do this because you are a low information assholecocksucker incapable of such higher level functioning. I've never seen you substantiate or argue any point. You immediately label someone brainwashed, right wing mouthpiece or some other crap. Its because you have inferior intelligence, is what I guess.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Tax cuts done properly promote industry and jobs, so #1 is a lie.

By their beliefs and actions liberals/progressives/lefties or whatever you want to call them tend to be socialistic and communistic, so another lie by the OP.

The richer most people get in industry, the more jobs they help middle class with, so #3 is a stupid remark.

Extreme liberal thinking sucks!

Targeted tax cuts are taxes done properly, and promote economic activity; across the board tax cuts are disproportional and greatly benefit the few and not the many. The Democrats under Clinton and Obama have focused tax cut targeted to help the many, which in turn help the few as consumption of goods and services increases.

You argue that my beliefs tend to be socialistic or communistic, easy to say but you and others use such words as pejoratives for their emotional affect and have no basis in reality.

[If the PPACA were 'socialism' is would make all medical professionals employees of the government and outlaw insurance companies. It does none of those things].

Liberals think, that you find such activity dangerous is hysterical.

 

[Meister]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

the original poster is a moron. why are libs so stupid?

of course tax cuts pay for themselves; that's why JFK did them; and Obama made PERMANENT 98% OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS; and Obama brags that much of his $840 billion dollar Stimulus was tax cuts. Tax cuts spur growth; it's just a fact; unless other factors get in the way; such as an inept community organizer



and how is it a "myth" to say the wealthy aren't too wealthy wen it is just YOUR OPINION that they are?

who the f*ck are you to say how much others should have?

Yes, true Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and he shouldn't have. 4.6 jobs per million dollar cut is all Bush has to show for. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Stimulating supply means dick if demand remains flat.

My logic is based on productivity. Shouldn't workers be paid fairly based on their productivity?

The left always touts how the obama stimulus created or SAVED X amount of jobs. But, when it comes to Bush tax cuts there is no mention of jobs being SAVED, why is that? just a curious thought........

 

[Jarhead]

the original poster is a moron. why are libs so stupid?

of course tax cuts pay for themselves; that's why JFK did them; and Obama made PERMANENT 98% OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS; and Obama brags that much of his $840 billion dollar Stimulus was tax cuts. Tax cuts spur growth; it's just a fact; unless other factors get in the way; such as an inept community organizer



and how is it a "myth" to say the wealthy aren't too wealthy wen it is just YOUR OPINION that they are?

who the f*ck are you to say how much others should have?

Yes, true Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and he shouldn't have. 4.6 jobs per million dollar cut is all Bush has to show for. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Stimulating supply means dick if demand remains flat.

My logic is based on productivity. Shouldn't workers be paid fairly based on their productivity?

The left always touts how the obama stimulus created or SAVED X amount of jobs. But, when it comes to Bush tax cuts there is no mention of jobs being SAVED, why is that? just a curious thought........

"created" requires proof.

"saved" requires the gullible only.

Enough said.

 

[Meister]

Tax cuts done properly promote industry and jobs, so #1 is a lie.

By their beliefs and actions liberals/progressives/lefties or whatever you want to call them tend to be socialistic and communistic, so another lie by the OP.

The richer most people get in industry, the more jobs they help middle class with, so #3 is a stupid remark.

Extreme liberal thinking sucks!

Targeted tax cuts are taxes done properly, and promote economic activity; across the board tax cuts are disproportional and greatly benefit the few and not the many. The Democrats under Clinton and Obama have focused tax cut targeted to help the many, which in turn help the few as consumption of goods and services increases.

You argue that my beliefs tend to be socialistic or communistic, easy to say but you and others use such words as pejoratives for their emotional affect and have no basis in reality.

[If the PPACA were 'socialism' is would make all medical professionals employees of the government and outlaw insurance companies. It does none of those things].

Liberals think, that you find such activity dangerous is hysterical.

Socialists and trade unions
Unions are the basic defensive organizations of the working class.

Socialists and trade unions | SocialistWorker.org

 

[Wry Catcher]

1) They do pay for themselves. You see, if you have more people paying taxes on more economic activity you can actually make MORE money then you currently have. In fact, every time taxes are cut, the economy improves and the treasury brings more money in. It's called the Laffer Curve, look it up.

2) The leadership sure leans that way. Progressives called themselves progressives because they believe in progresing society towards socialism/communism step by step. Through evolution rather than revolution. When progressives were exposed in the 1920s, they scared the heck out of the population and so rebranded themselves as liberals, while traditional "liberal" viewpoints were adopted by conservatives and libertarians.

3) Who the heck are you to determine what too wealthy is? If someone is blessed more for his labor, why should I have a right to force him to pay for what I want to be done? Why should I be angry at my brother because of his success? Rather, I should rejoice in it. And persuade and encourage him to use his resources wisely. But how he ultimately uses it is between him and God. Why do you want to be a robber in your heart?

1) False, the economy does not always improve following a tax cut. Taxes were cut in 1981 and 1982 and the economy grew worse; getting stronger from 1983 after tax increases were passed. Taxes were cut in 2001 and 2002, and again, the economy grew worse. The economy did get better after the 2003 tax cut, but it's debatable how much the tax cut contributed to that versus the housing bubble, which was ballooning out of control between 2003 and 2006.

And about the Laffer Curve ... it symmetrical curve maximizes revenue at about a 50% tax rate. Why on Earth would you advocate that if you're against higher taxes??

2) False again. Words have meaning ...

Socialism

a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

Communism

a way of organizing a society in which the government owns the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) and there is no privately owned property​

There are no leaders of the Democrat party advocating the government take ownership of major industries. You confuse regulating private industries with taking ownership of them. And forget Communism. That is a complete absurdity as no leaders are advocating the government seizing all property from the people.

3. This one is completely subjectable and no one will ever agree on what is "wealthy." The fact is, generally speaking, the more you make, the more you spend. So there is no doubt that there are some folks making around a million dollars a year who still struggle financially while there are others making $100,000, living a much more meager lifestyle, but not struggling as much. As far as progressive taxes, there are pros and cons for both progressive taxes and a flat tax. I personally prefer progressive taxes because it produces more public revenue than a flat tax would, which benefits everyone.

Explain why the Communists, socialists and Marxists here in the states fully support the Dem party. Many of the radicals were delegates at the DNC convention. They hate those who are against their idiotic ideas, but love all the liberals.

You need to name "Communists, socialists and Marxists" (you must know for you made a definitive statement) " Many of the radicals were delegates at the DNC convention"; then explain what Communistic, Socialistic and/or Marxists policies were included in the Democratic Platform. Only then will your comment be considered something more than another hysterical and untrue rant.

 

[depotoo]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

1) They do pay for themselves. You see, if you have more people paying taxes on more economic activity you can actually make MORE money then you currently have. In fact, every time taxes are cut, the economy improves and the treasury brings more money in. It's called the Laffer Curve, look it up.

2) The leadership sure leans that way. Progressives called themselves progressives because they believe in progresing society towards socialism/communism step by step. Through evolution rather than revolution. When progressives were exposed in the 1920s, they scared the heck out of the population and so rebranded themselves as liberals, while traditional "liberal" viewpoints were adopted by conservatives and libertarians.

3) Who the heck are you to determine what too wealthy is? If someone is blessed more for his labor, why should I have a right to force him to pay for what I want to be done? Why should I be angry at my brother because of his success? Rather, I should rejoice in it. And persuade and encourage his to use his resources wisely. But how he ultimately uses it is between him and God. Why do you want to be a robber in your heart?

1) bullshit. Only 4.6 jobs were created per million dollar cut from Bush's tax cuts. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. All they do is stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. Only a con would think less revenue is a good thing.

2) typical fluff. Why do you bother?

3) so you think it is a good thing only the wealthy have seen income gains since the 30s?

1.) When the payroll tax break went into effect in 2011 guess what happened? Unemployment began to steadily fall. Why? People had more to spend thus more hiring was done.

2.) Well Obama was a member of and supported by the DSa.

3.) Once again, wealth envy is not pretty. But if it bothers you so much, why not analyse how those people got where they are and how you could change your own way of doing things to be able to save and make some wise investments, go back to school to learn how to invest and make wise economic choices, things that might just bring you closer to your dream that wealth equates with happiness. By the way, wealth really doesn't equate to happiness. What equates to happiness is finding joy in whatever you do-not in what you have.

 

[Meister]

Yes, true Obama extended the Bush tax cuts and he shouldn't have. 4.6 jobs per million dollar cut is all Bush has to show for. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Stimulating supply means dick if demand remains flat.

My logic is based on productivity. Shouldn't workers be paid fairly based on their productivity?

The left always touts how the obama stimulus created or SAVED X amount of jobs. But, when it comes to Bush tax cuts there is no mention of jobs being SAVED, why is that? just a curious thought........

"created" requires proof.

"saved" requires the gullible only.

Enough said.

Yeah, that's what I thought. But, I thought it might be more political to the left for not mentioning it. Ya know, having an apples to apples discussion.

 

[Wry Catcher]

several of Obama's associates; aides; or advisors self-identify themselves as hardcore Socialists or even communists. denying stuff just makes you look stupid

Name them and post a quote wherein they, "self-identify themselves as hardcore Socialists or even communists."

 

[thereisnospoon]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Crap..
Every time tax rates are lowered, the result was increased revenue.
Your side uses this argument ( lower tax by one dollar translates to a dollar borrowed) is nonsense. The problem Washington has is not revenue. It is spending.
Discretionary spending is a choice. Get it?
The accepted definition of "liberal" as "communist" may not be correct. However, the modern liberal ideology ties itself directly to central planning demonstrated in communism.
Also, liberals think in terms of groups( collectives). Also a communist idea.
Wages have not remained flat. That is a myth. The fact is through technology and modernization, labor requirements have ebbed. The total pay out to labor may be lower, but the dollars earned are higher.

 

[Jarhead]

1) False, the economy does not always improve following a tax cut. Taxes were cut in 1981 and 1982 and the economy grew worse; getting stronger from 1983 after tax increases were passed. Taxes were cut in 2001 and 2002, and again, the economy grew worse. The economy did get better after the 2003 tax cut, but it's debatable how much the tax cut contributed to that versus the housing bubble, which was ballooning out of control between 2003 and 2006.

And about the Laffer Curve ... it symmetrical curve maximizes revenue at about a 50% tax rate. Why on Earth would you advocate that if you're against higher taxes??

2) False again. Words have meaning ...

Socialism

a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

Communism

a way of organizing a society in which the government owns the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) and there is no privately owned property​

There are no leaders of the Democrat party advocating the government take ownership of major industries. You confuse regulating private industries with taking ownership of them. And forget Communism. That is a complete absurdity as no leaders are advocating the government seizing all property from the people.

3. This one is completely subjectable and no one will ever agree on what is "wealthy." The fact is, generally speaking, the more you make, the more you spend. So there is no doubt that there are some folks making around a million dollars a year who still struggle financially while there are others making $100,000, living a much more meager lifestyle, but not struggling as much. As far as progressive taxes, there are pros and cons for both progressive taxes and a flat tax. I personally prefer progressive taxes because it produces more public revenue than a flat tax would, which benefits everyone.

Explain why the Communists, socialists and Marxists here in the states fully support the Dem party. Many of the radicals were delegates at the DNC convention. They hate those who are against their idiotic ideas, but love all the liberals.

You need to name "Communists, socialists and Marxists" (you must know for you made a definitive statement) " Many of the radicals were delegates at the DNC convention"; then explain what Communistic, Socialistic and/or Marxists policies were included in the Democratic Platform. Only then will your comment be considered something more than another hysterical and untrue rant.

let me simplify it...

Picture a straight line with a perpendicular line crossing the middle.

The left side is....the left.

The right side...is the right.

With progressive initiatives on the left, you will see them to the right of socialistic initiatives, but both would still be on the left side of the line.

So whereas we do not see progressive issues as socialistic, we see them trending in that direction.

Thus why the rhetoric.

Not really that difficult to comprehend.

 

[Indeependent]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Crap..
Every time tax rates are lowered, the result was increased revenue.
Your side uses this argument ( lower tax by one dollar translates to a dollar borrowed) is nonsense. The problem Washington has is not revenue. It is spending.
Discretionary spending is a choice. Get it?
The accepted definition of "liberal" as "communist" may not be correct. However, the modern liberal ideology ties itself directly to central planning demonstrated in communism.
Also, liberals think in terms of groups( collectives). Also a communist idea.
Wages have not remained flat. That is a myth. The fact is through technology and modernization, labor requirements have ebbed. The total pay out to labor may be lower, but the dollars earned are higher.

Increased Revenue for whom?
I'm not impressed by CTR rolled up numbers.

 

[thereisnospoon]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

4) Contraception leads to abortion

5) Paying people less makes them richer

6) Gay marriage devalues hetero marriage

Back under your idiot rock...
You are every bit as bad as the black person who thinks under every bed lies a racist.
You and your hyper focus on these so called 'women's issues'. Bull cookies.
Nobody cares about your constant screeching and bleating that women are getting the short shrift.
Go file a lawsuit or 12.