3 stupid myths republicans believe

[Mojo2]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

The irritating tendency of emotionally wired libs and progs is that not only are they starting from a flawed premise (that Progressivism actually works and that Big Government and more taxes are the answer...when it's never been proven before to succeed!!) but that libs and progs are so emotionally limited by their emotions that when you point out to them they are wrong they immediately lose ANY rationality they MIGHT have had to start with.

They go berzerk or as the song said, "Insane in the Brain!" So, they start out wrong and their inherent nature keeps them stupid.

They say ignorance is bliss and I'm proof of that my damn self!

And I'm not one who believes in keeping someone else from enjoying their bliss unless their bliss means I pay more or I lose my freedoms or I have to endure or tolerate policies and laws that are only going to increase my difficulty in pursuing life, liberty and happiness.


But, I'll give it a try...once again.

Number One:



Lower Taxes, Higher Revenue - Prager University


Number Two:



(Cut off here for brevity's sake.)


Progressivism - Discover the Networks

Number Three:

Milton Friedman on Income Inequality

Julio H. Cole Professor of Economics
Universidad Francisco MarroquínGuatemala
Journal of Markets & Morality
Volume 11, Number 2 (Fall 2008): 239–253

Copyright © 2008

There is a certain tension in Milton Friedman’s views on the issue of freedom versus equality, which was much more nuanced than is commonly assumed. On the one
hand, he argued that economic policy should focus on freedom as a primary value;stressing equality per se could lead to economic inefficiency as well as jeopardizing
freedom itself.

On the other hand, he famously advocated government-sponsored poverty alleviation by way of the negative income tax, a form of income redistribution that is inconsistent with his general theory of the free-market economy. His justification for this policy, however, was not on egalitarian grounds. Rather, his main motivation seems to have been compassion.

Introduction

A society that puts equality—in the sense of equality of outcome—ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom.… On the other hand,a society that puts freedom first will, as a happy by-product, end up with both greater freedom and greater equality.

Milton Friedman on Income Inequality | Julio Cole - Academia.edu

My take on this is; Ask not what new laws and regulations should be enacted to get more $$ to the lower income earners. Focus on making the society freer. And you'll get both more freedom and the wealth distribution you want.

According to Milton Friedman.

And you are a modern patriot. We need more like you.

Thanks!

And you, too!

 

[Meister]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

1 ) Please explain why revenue went up after JFK's and Reagan's tax cuts.

It's the Spending that causes debt you dolt.

2 ) Today's liberals are socialists and Communists. They simply won't admit it.

3 ) So you are one of those idiots who think that, like the bitcoin, there is a finite amount of money and if I have dollar, that keeps you from getting one also.

You really are a simpleton, aren't you?

How about you explain why job growth under Bush was so pathetic despite being responsible for the biggest tax cut in US history. I would say other factors were at play during the time periods you gave. What is with all this talk about finite money? No shit it is finite. My point is that people should be paid fairly regardless of whether or not it affects the pay of the bigwigs.

And yet you can't even explain the definition of a liberal. How about you give me an objective definition.

Easy.....for most of Bush's tenure the unemployment was minimal. Between 4-5%, of those 4-5% would be the people who weren't going to work for whatever reason. So basically the US was nearly at full employment. It wasn't until the democrats took over the Senate and Congress did unemployment start to rise in 2007.
I hope this helps you.

 

[hangover]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Republican leaders don't believe this crap. It's just the nazi style propaganda they use to bullshit the ignorant. It's mind boggling that the GOP has 33% of this country that is that stupid. What's worse, is half of that 33% are poverty stricken in those red states. That's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

If you're not in the top 10% richest, you are a moron for voting republican. The GOP wants the poor and middle class to pay off their $12 trillion deficit spending that Raygun and the Shrubs ran up with their war mongering.

 

[racewright]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Republican leaders don't believe this crap. It's just the nazi style propaganda they use to bullshit the ignorant. It's mind boggling that the GOP has 33% of this country that is that stupid. What's worse, is half of that 33% are poverty stricken in those red states. That's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

If you're not in the top 10% richest, you are a moron for voting republican. The GOP wants the poor and middle class to pay off their $12 trillion deficit spending that Raygun and the Shrubs ran up with their war mongering.

Whew get over that hangover

 

[OriginalShroom]

How about you explain why job growth under Bush was so pathetic despite being responsible for the biggest tax cut in US history. I would say other factors were at play during the time periods you gave. What is with all this talk about finite money? No shit it is finite. My point is that people should be paid fairly regardless of whether or not it affects the pay of the bigwigs.

And yet you can't even explain the definition of a liberal. How about you give me an objective definition.

Did I say anything about President Bush? Stop moving the goal posts.

So you think that there is finite amount of money and that if I earn a dollar, that is keeping someone else from earning a dollar? You truly are an idiot if you believe that. Why not go after the big dollar earners in Hollywood or sports?

Today's Liberals, the ones pushing for single payer health care on a National Level and other Big Government cradle to grave programs are socialists.

If You think that someone has too much money and that the Government needs to take some from them to give to someone else? You're a Socialist.

Who cares if you didn't mention Bush? Bringing him up is obviously relevant given the facts.

Again my wishes are completely fair if I support fair wages based on productivity. However, that doesn't mean I don't think skill and experience shouldn't be valued more. That's why I have nothing against sports players or movie stars being paid so well. I am still completely fine with the idea of the big wigs making the most money. I just think the people below him deserve a fair wage based on their position.

Most people earn what they are actually worth to the company. Do you honestly think a burgerflipper at McDonalds is worth $15/hour?

 

[TooTall]

1) bullshit. Only 4.6 jobs were created per million dollar cut from Bush's tax cuts. Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. All they do is stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. Only a con would think less revenue is a good thing.

2) typical fluff. Why do you bother?

3) so you think it is a good thing only the wealthy have seen income gains since the 30s?

about one million more Americans were working in the Bush years then are working now.

true story

pretty comical; a left-wing idiot whining that the Bush tax cuts didn't create many jobs.
what did we get for the almost $1 trillion Obama Stimulus? do any of those jobs still exist?

be honest with your self leftard; do they still exist?

The financial crisis happened under Bush's watch. We lost 2.3 million jobs in his last few months. Millions more were lost until the The Recovery Act was implemented. Altogether, the stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Had it been bigger like it was meant to be, we would be out of this mess.

The jobs lost and the financial crisis were caused by the housing policy started under Clinton and continued under Bush. The tax cuts had nothing to do with the lost jobs. Tell me about all of those 'shovel ready jobs' again. LOL

 

[bedowin62]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Republican leaders don't believe this crap. It's just the nazi style propaganda they use to bullshit the ignorant. It's mind boggling that the GOP has 33% of this country that is that stupid. What's worse, is half of that 33% are poverty stricken in those red states. That's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

If you're not in the top 10% richest, you are a moron for voting republican. The GOP wants the poor and middle class to pay off their $12 trillion deficit spending that Raygun and the Shrubs ran up with their war mongering.

Whew get over that hangover

Under obama; the richest Americans and ONLY THE VERY RICHEST AMERICANS has seen an increase in their wealth. Under obama and Progressives the top 1% has seen a 31% INCREASE IN THEIR WEALTH; the top 7% has seen a 28% increase

\
the other NINETY-THREE PERCENT OF AMERICANS HAS SEEN AN AVERAGE 9% DECREASE IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.


why are liberals such self-deceiving, mindless idiots??

 

[bedowin62]

the Middle Class and the poor had it MUCH BETTER when Republicans ran things


true story

 

[bedowin62]

stupid myths liberal idiots believe:



there are more jobs now under obama

2. Congress is "Republican"-- it isnt; the House is Republican majority in its 4th year; the Senate in IN ITS 8TH STRAIGHT YEAR OF DEMOCRAT MAJORITY

3. "CHANGE": Obama never brought positive change to anyone, anywhere, ever

4. that obama's unemployment number means anything: actually it is GARBAGE; MILLIONS ARENT BEING COUNTED

 

[bedowin62]

People; and jobs; are leaving Blue states for Red states

true story

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[bedowin62]

1) Tax cuts pay for themselves.

Wrong. Every dollar lost in revenue is one more dollar the government needs to borrow to pay their bills. It's so obnoxious when repubs complain of gov spending yet are too ignorant to realize tax cutting leads to more borrowing. You think over spending is the only reason for our debt? No, it is also because of Bush's tax cuts.

2) Liberals are socialists/communists

Also wrong. We are talking about fundamental definitions of words here. Saying liberals are socialists is just as stupid as saying conservatives are liberals.

3) The wealthy are not too wealthy.

95% of income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners despite the fact that the lower classes are responsible for most of the productivity. In fact, productivity has grown exponentially in the lower classes since the 30s yet wages have remained flat.

Republican leaders don't believe this crap. It's just the nazi style propaganda they use to bullshit the ignorant. It's mind boggling that the GOP has 33% of this country that is that stupid. What's worse, is half of that 33% are poverty stricken in those red states. That's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

If you're not in the top 10% richest, you are a moron for voting republican. The GOP wants the poor and middle class to pay off their $12 trillion deficit spending that Raygun and the Shrubs ran up with their war mongering.

Hangover is one of the biggest idiots on these boards. look at the moron whining like a b*tch about "Raygun" and "Shrub" and wars

does this idiot Hangover not realize when he's whining about spending under Reagan that Democrats held the purse strings in the House FOR ALL 8 REAGAN YEARS? lol these are the same crybaby losers on the Left who insist Republicans have been able to "obstruct" obama from Day One; even though from Day One and for OBAMA'S FIRST TWO YEARS REPUBS WERE THE MINORITY OF BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS.

it's amazing how much power losers like Hangover give to Republicans in Congress and in the White House; even as he tries to insult them; his idiotic posts in saying just the opposite; that Republican presidents and congresspersons can accomplish what Dems cant. .........are you sensing the theme?

libs are asinine excuse-making losers always trying to have it both ways

 

[bedowin62]

comical watching liberal idiots whine about fairness or the lack of it; inequality.
if the world was fair; in a perfect world all the left-wingers who insist they are so superior in every way to people on the right; morally, ethically, intellectually...etc, would make it their business to own all the corporations and dole out the kind of "fair" wages they thing can be made to everybody and still have a functioning corporation; and all the rest of the mean ol Republicans would be shamed into sharing all that wealth the Left whines they hold onto


instead the fascist Left (yes i went there) resorts to pandering, patronizing, race and class warfare, and demonizing fellow Americans who have the nerve to hold different beliefs than the Left wants them to have


idiots and hypocrites

 

[1776]

A "few" myths liberals believe...

Poor people are poor because of the white man holding them down.
Conservatives don't like clean air, clean water, clean food, etc.
Liberal politicians don't get in bed with rich corporations.
Obamacare was really about improving healthcare.

 

[Meister]

Republican leaders don't believe this crap. It's just the nazi style propaganda they use to bullshit the ignorant. It's mind boggling that the GOP has 33% of this country that is that stupid. What's worse, is half of that 33% are poverty stricken in those red states. That's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

If you're not in the top 10% richest, you are a moron for voting republican. The GOP wants the poor and middle class to pay off their $12 trillion deficit spending that Raygun and the Shrubs ran up with their war mongering.

Whew get over that hangover

Under obama; the richest Americans and ONLY THE VERY RICHEST AMERICANS has seen an increase in their wealth. Under obama and Progressives the top 1% has seen a 31% INCREASE IN THEIR WEALTH; the top 7% has seen a 28% increase

\
the other NINETY-THREE PERCENT OF AMERICANS HAS SEEN AN AVERAGE 9% DECREASE IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.


why are liberals such self-deceiving, mindless idiots??

But, but, but.....Bush, GOP, Palin, women's rights, obummercare.........

 

[ScienceRocks]

Fact...

Most of the debt is caused by Welfare, SSI, food stamps and the military. Probably close to 2/3rds of all the debt.

Fact...

Infastucture, science and education that adds to the health of our nation has been decreasing. They don't cause debt. Heck, they allow our economy to be as big as it is and if we keep on this path we're all fucked.

 

[1776]

Shistain....

FACT
DOD spending per GDP is down by over 40% under Obama compared to "democrap" JFK.

FACT
DOD spending is outlined in our founding documents, nothing in there about food stamps, welfare, fixing potholes, etc.

FACT
Entitlement spending is increasing and will soon overtake most of the budget, especially with TRILLIONS added to the debt spending by obamacare.

Fact...

Most of the debt is caused by Welfare, SSI, food stamps and the military. Probably close to 2/3rds of all the debt.

Fact...

Infastucture, science and education that adds to the health of our nation has been decreasing. They don't cause debt. Heck, they allow our economy to be as big as it is and if we keep on this path we're all fucked.

 

[cutter]

stupid myths liberal idiots believe:



there are more jobs now under obama

2. Congress is "Republican"-- it isnt; the House is Republican majority in its 4th year; the Senate in IN ITS 8TH STRAIGHT YEAR OF DEMOCRAT MAJORITY

3. "CHANGE": Obama never brought positive change to anyone, anywhere, ever

4. that obama's unemployment number means anything: actually it is GARBAGE; MILLIONS ARENT BEING COUNTED

4. Imagine what unemployment numbers would be without federal jobs. Every federal job is paid for by a private sector job. Until you can tax a federal worker enough to pay his own wages he is a drag on the economy.

 

[Mojo2]

Fact...

Most of the debt is caused by Welfare, SSI, food stamps and the military. Probably close to 2/3rds of all the debt.

Fact...

Infastucture, science and education that adds to the health of our nation has been decreasing. They don't cause debt. Heck, they allow our economy to be as big as it is and if we keep on this path we're all fucked.

I'll stick with Milton Friedman, who said,

I am in favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it's possible. The...big problem is not taxes, the big problem is spending. The question is, "How do you hold down government spending?"​

Articles: Obama, Tax-Cutting Friend of Working Americans

I doubt we'd be discussing this matter of Bush's tax cuts not working if he'd also cut spending.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Conservative Myth's & Legends, past & present.

1. Bush won the 2000 election.
2. Saddam's Iraq had a WMD program
3. Iraqis will welcome US liberation by military force
4 Iran will nuke Israel as soon as they get a nuke
5 Clinton's tax hikes will cause recession
6 The Bush Presidency was going well till the Democrats won in 2006
7.There is massive voter fraud in Democratc-run precints
8 Canadians pour into the US soley to obtain medical services
9 The minumim wage kills jobs
10 Massive inflation from QE and the stimilus is right around the corner
11 Ill-treatment of black Americans over the centuries has nothing to do with their problems, it's actually their fault.
12 Raped women do not get pregnant
13 Obama got played by Putin in Syria

 

[Papageorgio]

Another Billy Butt hurt and other liberals crying thread.

Nothing here but pure ignorance of liberals.