3 More Hostages Released

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[toomuchtime_]

But if it is my loved one held hostage, how tough do I want President Trump to be if it means almost certain torture and/or death for my loved one?

Again I don't envy those who have to negotiate under such circumstances.

There are no good answers here. The war has two purposes, to free the hostages and to destroy Hamas and the other terrorists. While the ceasefire has made it possible for some of the hostages to be released, it has also allowed Hamas to rearm and rebuild and that will cost the loves of IDF soldiers when the war resumes, so how do you choose?

 

[Road Runner]

Just talk - I hope

I guess that it's just a tough situation around because either way we could wind up losing.

 

[Foxfyre]

I see your point but look at my point in post #32.

I think everybody takes President Trump seriously. But just as the cops move every carefully when the bad guy has a gun to a victim's head, his first priority is to get any hostages still living out of captivity. The bulldozer approach is not always the most successful way to do that.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Just out of curiosity, is there a general account for how many are still or are thought to be alive?

 

[Mac-7]

I guess that it's just a tough situation around because either way we could wind up losing.

There will never be peace in the Holy Land

Not even trump can make that happen

 

[Road Runner]

There will never be peace in the Holy Land

Not even trump can make that happen

No, only Christ can at His return.

 

[Foxfyre]

There are no good answers here. The war has two purposes, to free the hostages and to destroy Hamas and the other terrorists. While the ceasefire has made it possible for some of the hostages to be released, it has also allowed Hamas to rearm and rebuild and that will cost the loves of IDF soldiers when the war resumes, so how do you choose?

I'm pretty sure the Trump Administration is doing everything it can do to prevent Hamas from rearming. And I'm sure he is in close alliance with Netanyahu as to the best way to approach the problem. That Hamas will suffer terrible retribution if they do not release the hostages were not idle words. But Trump isn't likely to go all macho and unnecessarily have the hostages killed either.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Then what was all the talk about the US taking over the Gaza strip?

Trump promised to support whatever decision Netanyahu makes concerning the resumption of the war and the relocation of the so called Palestinians, and once that has been completed, or nearly completed, Israel will turn Gaza over to the US and Trump will turn it into the Riviera of the ME.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[toomuchtime_]

There will never be peace in the Holy Land

Not even trump can make that happen

Why not? If peace is the absence of war, then it will be attainable once the Arab nations start to care more about what is best for their populations than carrying out some medieval fantasy about massacring Jews.

 

[Mac-7]

Why not? If peace is the absence of war, then it will be attainable once the Arab nations start to care more about what is best for their populations than carrying out some medieval fantasy about massacring Jews.

I dont see that ever happening

 

[Road Runner]

I will say this though. Even though I'm currently on the fence about how this situation should be handled, at least it is finally being handled because the Biden/Harris certainly didn't handle it. They're full of anti-Semitism though so that didn't surprise me one bit.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I dont see that ever happening

I do, and I see it starting to happen now. While I don't see the Lebanese or Syrians liking Israel or Jews any better, the new Lebanese government has no Hezbollah in it and the new Syrian government is breaking ties with Iran. Morocco has started buying its military hardware from Israel rather than France and Azerbaijan has removed antisemitic and anti Israel content from it schoolbooks. As Golda Meir once said, there will be peace when the Arabs start loving their children more than they hate us.

 

[meaner gene]

How do you know that as I don't think that President Trump specified a time zone.

The parties (hamas / israel) are in the israeli time zone. The hostages are in the israeli time zone. Unless zulu time was specified, it uses the local time zone.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It means Israel/US should negotiate a deal, the same as what has resulted in the release of hostages so far.
Resuming bombing now could seal a bad fate for the hostages.
Allowing Hamas to celebrate victory can be coped with, getting all the remaining hostages back in the near future should be the goal.
Cool, calm, rational minds must prevail.

Handcuffs Instead of "Cold Dead Hands"

Why frustrate victory on behalf of civilian hoplophobes who wouldn't fight back? Caring about those unpatriotic cowards shows contempt for the Jewish soldiers , who will have to die for this delay.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And the hostages and their families lose.

The Other Kind of Holocaust-Deniers

They should have thought of that when they went partying unarmed in a dangerous area.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Same for the Yellow Marines at Tehran

As a combat veteran, I have no sympathy for someone who wouldn't die with a gun in her hand. If the truth could be told instead of this weepy narrative, killing her attacker would have others from being taken hostage.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It means Israel/US should negotiate a deal, the same as what has resulted in the release of hostages so far.
Resuming bombing now could seal a bad fate for the hostages.
Allowing Hamas to celebrate victory can be coped with, getting all the remaining hostages back in the near future should be the goal.
Cool, calm, rational minds must prevail.

Enough is enough. There is no deal to be made with the Palestinians that will end the war. The war will end when all the hostages have been released and the Palestinians have been disarmed; and then the process of building a durable peace can be built, and the most humane way to do that is to relocate the so called Palestinians somewhere else.

 

[Foxfyre]

I wonder though what the 'best plan' would be? If that is your son/daughter, father/mother, sibling or whatever being held hostage, what plan ensures Hamas will release them? Are you willing to have them killed in order to punish Hamas for violating terms of an agreement? At the same time how much do you let dishonorable savages dictate the terms?

Such negotiations are walking a really dangerous tightrope. I don't envy those who have to walk it.

Curious. With what do you disagree with in my quote The Sage of Main Street?