25,000 dead genocidal-Hamas butchers of "palestine". OK

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At the end, the ratio combatants to civilian is pretty impressive.

Given the contrast with other wars.

So much for the "genocide" LIE. Pallyweid.


$$$

Oct/2025: Genocidal Hamas "Palestine" Gaza regime Terrorists eliminated: 23-25,000
Just sayin'
| Oct 9, 2025

Ignore the Left-wing naysayers, Israel is winning this necessary war.

By Richard Kemp. The Telegraph. May 30, 2025 — And Israel has had unparalleled success. They have killed something like 20-25,000 Hamas terrorists, including many senior commanders.
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[Ambassador of Israel 🇮🇱 to India 🇮🇳 & Non-resident Ambassador to Bhutan 🇧🇹 & Sri Lanka 🇱🇰].

🇮🇱 Reuven Azar @ReuvenAzar:

What is shameful is your deceit. Israel Killed 25,000 Hamas terrorists. The terrible cost in human lives derives from Hamas’s heinous tactics of hiding behind civilians, their shooting of people trying to evacuate or receive assistance and their rocket fire. Israel facilitated 2 million tonnes of food into Gaza while Hamas tries to sequestrate them, thereby creating hunger. Gaza population has grown 450% in the last 50 years, no genocide there. Don’t buy Hamas numbers.

Aug 12, 2025.
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[Updated: 30.09.2025, 08:00].

"Terrorists killed: More than 23,000."
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'Three or four days': Trump presses Hamas on peace plan acceptance.

JNS, Oct 1, 2025 — “I would let them go and do what they have to do. You know, we've killed about 25,000 Hamas. So certainly they paid a big price for October 7.
https://www.jns.org/three-or-four-days-trump-presses-hamas-on-peace-plan-acceptance/



Trump puts Hamas on notice with deadline to accept Gaza peace deal. Bonny Chu, Fox News, October 3, 2025.

"As retribution for the October 7th attack on civilization, more than 25,000 Hamas 'soldiers' have already been killed," Trump continued.
Trump puts Hamas on notice with deadline to accept Gaza peace deal
 
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Israel wiped out Hamas before the end of 2023.

The "Hamas" the media cites since are frauds, Mossad actors.


Anyone who understands anything about military conflict will tell you a battle between


30k armed with rifles, grenades, and rockets

vs.

IDF with satellites, drones, planes, armor, choppers

in a limited theater like Gaza where Israel has been spying for decades...

takes max 2 weeks
 
EMH said:
Israel wiped out Hamas before the end of 2023.
Not true
As usual you always type what you invent with no basis
There was relative quiet before genocudal "Palestine" launched its attack.
And today Arab immigrants celebrate Hamas atrocities of Oct 7.

And most Arab fakestine still supports it
Palestinians. 98% said Oct. 7 events "made them proud"...
7 Oct 2024.
Hamas, PIJ flags displayed at October 7 march in New York
Oct 7, 2025 — The yellow and black flag of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seen during a pro-Palestinian protest in New York City, October 7, 2025
 
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EMH said:
When will your ..
Just because you keep saying "fascists" in every silly little post, doesn't mean you are mot projecting.

A word I advice:

You can't celebrate Palestinian islamofascust atrocities and then "deny" it.

Hamas celebrates two years since October 7, calls terror attack a ‘glorious day’
The Hamas terror organization shared a statement celebrating the two-year mark since the October 7 attacks, with an AI video that showed Yahya Sinwar and footage from the terror attack.
By Jerusalem Post Staff
October 7, 2025.

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... Trump Reaffirms Lifelong Support for Israel, “I Support Israel My Whole Life”

 
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At the end, the ratio combatants to civilian is pretty impressive.

Given the contrast with other wars.

So much for the "genocide" LIE. Pallyweid.


$$$

Oct/2025: Genocidal Hamas "Palestine" Gaza regime Terrorists eliminated: 23-25,000
Just sayin'
| Oct 9, 2025

Ignore the Left-wing naysayers, Israel is winning this necessary war.

By Richard Kemp. The Telegraph. May 30, 2025 — And Israel has had unparalleled success. They have killed something like 20-25,000 Hamas terrorists, including many senior commanders.
Telegraph






[Ambassador of Israel 🇮🇱 to India 🇮🇳 & Non-resident Ambassador to Bhutan 🇧🇹 & Sri Lanka 🇱🇰].

🇮🇱 Reuven Azar @ReuvenAzar:

What is shameful is your deceit. Israel Killed 25,000 Hamas terrorists. The terrible cost in human lives derives from Hamas’s heinous tactics of hiding behind civilians, their shooting of people trying to evacuate or receive assistance and their rocket fire. Israel facilitated 2 million tonnes of food into Gaza while Hamas tries to sequestrate them, thereby creating hunger. Gaza population has grown 450% in the last 50 years, no genocide there. Don’t buy Hamas numbers.

Aug 12, 2025.
On X




Swords of Iron: Real Time Tracker | INSS.

[Updated: 30.09.2025, 08:00].

"Terrorists killed: More than 23,000."
393cb540e584cdcac011a9fc215729a41793d9df.jpg

Swords of Iron: Real Time Tracker | INSS
English: Swords of Iron Dashboard by INSS data desk - Infogram






'Three or four days': Trump presses Hamas on peace plan acceptance.

JNS, Oct 1, 2025 — “I would let them go and do what they have to do. You know, we've killed about 25,000 Hamas. So certainly they paid a big price for October 7.
https://www.jns.org/three-or-four-days-trump-presses-hamas-on-peace-plan-acceptance/



Trump puts Hamas on notice with deadline to accept Gaza peace deal. Bonny Chu, Fox News, October 3, 2025.

"As retribution for the October 7th attack on civilization, more than 25,000 Hamas 'soldiers' have already been killed," Trump continued.
Trump puts Hamas on notice with deadline to accept Gaza peace deal
When is enough enough?
 
At the end, the ratio combatants to civilian is pretty impressive.

Given the contrast with other wars.

So much for the "genocide" LIE. Pallyweid.

It cracks me the PALIs' show video's of little Palis' saying they will die for Allah.

Than when the JOOOs make it happen the PALIs' cry about the murdered kids...they were hiding behind.
 
"Hondo 50" reacted via "davebb" account, after using earlier another sock account "soul musician"
 
It cracks me the PALIs' show video's of little Palis' saying they will die for Allah.

Than when the JOOOs make it happen the PALIs' cry about the murdered kids...they were hiding behind.
72 ..virgins.
 
LINK| 10.20.25

Exposing the Truth Behind Gaza Casualty Figures: Impressive IDF Combatant-to-Non-Combatant Ratio​

Published: October 20, 2025

In the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, accurate casualty reporting has become a weapon in the information war. Hamas, a terrorist organization notorious for its disregard for human life—including that of its own people—has consistently inflated and distorted fatality numbers to portray Israel as the aggressor committing indiscriminate violence. However, recent analyses based on Hamas' own data, cross-referenced with Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) reports, reveal a starkly different reality: a highly targeted campaign by Israel that has neutralized thousands of Hamas combatants while minimizing civilian harm. This pro-Israel examination draws on credible sources to dismantle Hamas' propaganda and highlight the IDF's precision in urban warfare.

The Core Deception: Hamas Hides Combatant Deaths​

Hamas' Ministry of Health routinely publishes fatality lists that blend civilian deaths with those of fighters, natural causes, and even casualties caused by Hamas itself—such as misfired rockets or internal executions. A detailed breakdown from analyst Aizenberg, who has tracked these figures for over two years, estimates that of the approximately 58,000 deaths claimed by Hamas since October 7, 2023, a significant portion is misrepresented. Specifically, around 6,000 are natural deaths (including infant mortality), 3,000 stem from Hamas-inflicted violence (like failed rocket launches or reprisals against suspected collaborators), and at least 5,000-7,000 male combatants are deliberately omitted from official records to conceal battlefield losses.[Ref 11]

This manipulation serves a clear purpose: by excluding fighters and inflating civilian counts, Hamas aims to fuel international outrage against Israel. For instance, early in the war, Hamas claimed 70% of fatalities were women and children, a figure blindly echoed by some media outlets. Yet, when full names were released, this dropped to around 50%—and even lower when accounting for non-war-related deaths, closer to 40%.[Ref 11] Such tactics echo historical precedents; in 2009, Hamas initially admitted only 48 fighters killed, later revising it to 600-700, matching Israel's estimates.[Ref 11]

A recent revelation from Hamas' own data on orphans underscores this deceit. New statistics show adult males were killed at six times the rate of adult women—far exceeding the official 3:1 ratio in fatality lists. This discrepancy exposes thousands of male combatants (many fathers) removed from records, inadvertently revealed through orphan counts published by UNICEF and cited in outlets like The Guardian.[Ref 10] As Aizenberg notes, this "huge gap" confirms Hamas' strategy of hiding losses to maintain the illusion of resilience while blaming Israel for civilian suffering.[Ref 10]

IDF's Targeted Operations: A Low Civilian-to-Combatant Ratio​

Contrary to Hamas' narrative, Israel's military response has been remarkably precise, especially in the dense urban environment of Gaza where Hamas embeds itself among civilians—a war crime under international law. Based on IDF data corroborated by U.S. intelligence, over 23,000-24,000 Hamas combatants have been eliminated, a figure that aligns with battlefield reports of Hamas' decimation and desperate recruitment of teenagers.[Ref 11] Former U.S. President Donald Trump, in a September 2025 statement, affirmed that approximately 25,000 Hamas fighters had been killed since the October 7 attack, emphasizing the heavy toll on the group.[Ref 4]

Adjusting for Hamas' distortions, the true war-related death toll stands at around 52,000, with roughly 29,000 civilians and 23,000 combatants—yielding a civilian-to-combatant ratio of about 1.3:1.[Ref 11] This is exceptionally low compared to other urban conflicts, such as U.S.-led operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, where ratios often exceeded 3:1 or higher. Even Hamas' data shows 73% of combat-age fatalities are male, rising higher with the latest orphan revelations, proving Israel's focus on combatants rather than indiscriminate bombing.[Ref 10]

Claims of vast unreported bodies "under the rubble" are implausible; families have incentives to report deaths for compensation, and a two-month ceasefire allowed for such updates.[Ref 11]

Hamas, Not Israel, Is Legally Responsible for Civilian Harm in Gaza​

Under international law, Hamas—not Israel—bears full legal responsibility for all civilian harm in Gaza. As Prof. Louis René Beres, renowned international law expert and author, explains in his May 8, 2025 analysis, Hamas' systematic use of human shields and placement of military assets in schools, hospitals, and populated areas constitutes "perfidy"—a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions (Article 147) and Hague Regulations.[Ref 20] This illegal tactic exculpates Israel from any responsibility for resulting civilian casualties, transferring all legal culpability to the terrorists themselves.

When the IDF targets a hospital being used as a Hamas command center or an ambulance sheltering fighters, any civilian deaths are the direct legal responsibility of Hamas, not Israel. Beres emphasizes: "In law, although bombs killing Palestinian noncombatants may be fired by Israeli military forces, the criminal perpetrators are those who committed perfidy."[Ref 20] This principle applies universally—every state has a legal obligation to support Israel's self-defense against such jihadist criminality, as codified in Sir William Blackstone's Commentaries and the universal law of nations.

Hamas' standard counter-charge of "disproportionality" is legally baseless. International law's proportionality rule requires only that force be militarily necessary—not equivalent in harm. Beres notes that even the U.S. atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki meet this standard, making Hamas' accusations not just wrong, but a deliberate manipulation to exploit civilian deaths for propaganda.[Ref 20] Perfidy adds a second layer of illegality to Hamas' terrorism, threatening the global legal order itself.

No Other Alternative to the Moral War Israel Wages​

There is no greater just cause than Israel's battle against Hamas, the terror group that led the October 7, 2023, massacre of 1,200 babies, children, women, and men in the most barbaric way, and took 251 others hostage, with the goal of doing the same to the remaining approximately 7 million Jews in the country, including around 2 million children.[Ref 12] This right to self-defense, rooted in international law, is amplified by Hamas' perfidy, which legally shields Israel from blame while condemning the terrorists.[Ref 20]


John Spencer, director of urban warfare at the West Point Military Academy, has stated that Israel "has implemented more measures to prevent civilian casualties than any other military in history."[Ref 18] As an expert who has studied every urban conflict, Spencer highlights unprecedented precautions such as mass SMS/phone calls, "roof-knocking," real-time evacuation maps, daily tactical pauses, deconfliction hotlines, and widespread leaflet drops—measures that further immunize Israel under international law despite Hamas' illegal shielding.[Ref 19]


The evidence is clear: no fighting force has ever achieved Israel's success in urban combat while maintaining such a low civilian-to-combatant ratio. Studies from the Henry Jackson Society and Honest Reporting, combined with Hamas' own March 2025 casualty revisions, confirm thousands of combatants—not innocent civilians—among the dead.[Ref 12] Col. Richard Kemp notes typical urban war ratios of 9:1 civilians-to-combatants; Israel's is 1:2—the most impressive in history.[Ref 12]


Yet critics like Piers Morgan and Joe Rogan ignore this legal reality, failing to propose alternatives as Hamas holds 56 hostages, including 20 believed alive.[Ref 12] Israel's ratio is even more remarkable given Hamas' strategy of embedding in hospitals and schools—actions that, per Beres, make Hamas legally culpable for every civilian death.[Ref 20] Israel retains the unqualified right to stop Hamas rockets and rescue hostages.


Suggestions for Palestinian Authority control of Gaza ignore its antisemitic history and 80%+ support for October 7 among its population.[Ref 12] Israel's legal right to its homeland—affirmed by San Remo (1920), League of Nations (1922), Anglo-American Treaty (1925), and UN (1947)—is unassailable.[Ref 12] There is no alternative: support Israel's moral, just, and legally protected war.[Ref 12,20]


Hamas' Human Shield Strategy: The Real Culprit Behind Civilian Losses​

The tragedy of civilian deaths lies squarely with Hamas' perfidy, which international law identifies as the root cause.[Ref 20] By fighting from hospitals, schools, and homes without uniforms, Hamas ensures casualties to exploit for propaganda. Israel counters with extraordinary warnings via leaflets, calls, and corridors—even compromising operations to save lives.


Aizenberg's analyses consistently expose Hamas' manipulated lists, with hundreds of "confirmed" deaths later removed.[Ref 14,15] Hamas officials admit including natural deaths, confirming the deceit.[Ref 13]


Why This Matters: Countering Anti-Israel Bias​

The truth—bolstered by international law—reveals Israel's defensive war of restraint against genocidal foes. The IDF's achievements neutralize 25,000+ terrorists with an unmatched 1.3:1 ratio, demonstrating moral and military superiority. Hamas' deceptions, amplified by biased voices, prolong Gazan suffering.


As Trump affirmed, Hamas has "paid a big price."[Ref 4] Legally exonerated and morally compelled, Israel must dismantle Hamas for lasting peace. The law doesn't lie—only Hamas does.[Ref 20]


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EMH said:
Israel wiped out Hamas before the end of 2023.
Here we go again EMH "theories" the joke on the internet
 
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