He'll come down, join the Lakers, Paul George will come in to and we'll be relevant once again.Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
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He'll come down, join the Lakers, Paul George will come in to and we'll be relevant once again.Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
Chamberlain and Jabbar already had rings.Drexler went to Houston to get a ring, Thompson went to LA to get a ring, Walton went to Boston for the ring, Karl Malone went to LA to get a ring. Before free agency Jabber, Monroe and Chamberlin all demanded to be traded to get their rings.
Moses Malone, the league MVP in 82 went to the NBA champion Philadelphia 76ers the following season.
The NBA is littered with players that left to improve their odds of winning it all.
James, Bosh and Wade colluded to go to Miami to win championships.
He'll come down, join the Lakers, Paul George will come in to and we'll be relevant once again.Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
Chamberlain and Jabbar already had rings.Drexler went to Houston to get a ring, Thompson went to LA to get a ring, Walton went to Boston for the ring, Karl Malone went to LA to get a ring. Before free agency Jabber, Monroe and Chamberlin all demanded to be traded to get their rings.
Moses Malone, the league MVP in 82 went to the NBA champion Philadelphia 76ers the following season.
The NBA is littered with players that left to improve their odds of winning it all.
James, Bosh and Wade colluded to go to Miami to win championships.
The only reason the sixers won that title was because of a red-headed referee name Jesse Kersey who deliberately called fouls and stopped play every time the Lakers had a hint of getting momentum.
I said green would be a number 1 guy on a lot of teams. I never used the word contender with that opinion. And I never at all said anything about Thompson being a number 1 ANYWHERE. This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of guys who would be happier just getting the big contract than actually winning a title. If Melo isn't a perfect example of that I don't know who isLosing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteed
Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
I said green would be a number 1 guy on a lot of teams. I never used the word contender with that opinion. And I never at all said anything about Thompson being a number 1 ANYWHERE. This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of guys who would be happier just getting the big contract than actually winning a title. If Melo isn't a perfect example of that I don't know who isLosing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteed
Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
The lakers are building a team through the draft. In fact they've been doing the exact same thing the sixers have been doing...tanking...but conveniently for the lakers they haven't had to deal with media scrutiny on that because there's enough other teams doing it that the media doesn't have to spend any time calling the lakers out. But I don't hate on them at all about it. It's literally the only way you can become a contender in the NBA. Unless they change the way the lottery is set up that's the way it's going to be foreverHe'll come down, join the Lakers, Paul George will come in to and we'll be relevant once again.Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
Ok well that was literally the only sentence you wrote in your post as though you were refuting it as something I claimedI said green would be a number 1 guy on a lot of teams. I never used the word contender with that opinion. And I never at all said anything about Thompson being a number 1 ANYWHERE. This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of guys who would be happier just getting the big contract than actually winning a title. If Melo isn't a perfect example of that I don't know who isLosing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteed
Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
I never said you did say they would be the 1 guy on a contender. It is no shock that player would play for the most money possible.
I was stating my opinion as were you. No big deal.
Ok well that was literally the only sentence you wrote in your post as though you were refuting it as something I claimedI said green would be a number 1 guy on a lot of teams. I never used the word contender with that opinion. And I never at all said anything about Thompson being a number 1 ANYWHERE. This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of guys who would be happier just getting the big contract than actually winning a title. If Melo isn't a perfect example of that I don't know who isLosing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.
Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
I never said you did say they would be the 1 guy on a contender. It is no shock that player would play for the most money possible.
I was stating my opinion as were you. No big deal.
Jabbar came to the Lakers when we had Corky Carroll and Don "Prez" Ford. That is not a contender. And I think it was the year after he came here when they had the best record in the regular season and get swept by Waltons Trailblazers.True, Jabbar and Chamberlain had rings, yet they demanded the trades to go to a contender. The year Jabbar went to the Lakers was the year that the Trailblazers swept the Lakers in four straight and went on to win their title.
The Sixers front office sucks.I'm a sixers fan. We have 3rd pick this year. I would trade that pick to you and our other first round for deangelo Russell straight up and you can go ahead and draft that fucking loser Ball with it and not waste your number 2 on him.
That's what Gary Payton and Karl Malone thought before they went to join Shaq and Kobe in 2004Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteedWow I mean congratulations Durant, you're gonna win a championship on a team full of the best players in the leagueDidn't I say Durant would win a championship? Ok sure it's 5 years later but better late than neverI think the Spurs are boring and hope it isn't them who wins it all this year.
Did you forget Dallas? They may have a repeat in them but I doubt it. Its tough to do.
The Lakers. I was starting to think maybe them and then Meta World Piece of Shit punched that guy on Oklahoma and now I don't think so. And Bynum is an asshole too. Bad Karma on this team. No championship, I hope. But you never know with Kobe. He is great.
I think it is amazing that the Heat are probably not going to win again this year. I think it is a better story that Lebron still doesn't have a ring. I'm sure Cleveland fans agree.
Boston? Good but no way. But man is Rondo the bomb or what?
NY? I wish. I don't know why I want them to be good. NY is a big market and should be good. Spike Lee vs. Jack Nicholson finals would be great! Maybe next year when Lin is back.
I want Oklahoma to win and picked them earlier this year but now I'm not so sure. They are showing weaknessess all of the sudden. But I LOVE Durant. He's the best, not Lebron. And of course I mean when Kobe retires. Because he's still the best.
It would be cool if the Bulls won. But I just don't see that happening. They have to win one to win me over. But they are a solid TEAM and they have Rip Hamilton now too. Man what would Miami do if the Bulls beat them? OMG. I can't wait.
-- I'm sure people can say baseball's boring if it's not the Yankees and Dodgers or Red Sox and Mets in the World Series. I don't really like those arguments, but I understand them.
Just like a baseball enthusiast just prefers to see quality baseball irregardless of the teams; that's how I feel about the Spurs. Give me the 86 Celts to any Jordan team any day. I like the teams that gel perfectly and have all the pieces. It's a thing of beauty.
-- Dallas would have a great shot at back to back had Mark Cuban not got cheap and resigned Tyson Chandler. It was stupid. He was the defensive anchor. Not signing him made about as much sense as it would to not keep Dirk for his offense.
-- The Lakers can beat anyone but they're not a great team. They'll be done in one of the first two rounds most likely.
-- I love Lebron's skill set. But I don't like his attitude. I don't like that the league panders to him. I'd be happy to see him lose despite my appreciation for his athletic abilities.
All season long, I've watched him drive and offensive foul by plowing his shoulder into players. The refs let him do it and its a disservice to him b/c he doesn't think he has to work on his mid range game. That type of stuff can hurt him come playoff time.
-- Boston has the best record since the all-star break I believe. They're playing at a championship level and it's b/c Avery Bradley is a lockdown defender and solid scorer at SG. Ray Allen moved to the bench. They have what it takes. Rondo and Bradley will have to do heavy lifting and Pierce and KG will need to be vintage down the stretch of games though.
-- NY would be more interesting if they had Lin. Basically, the Howardless Magic are the only playoff team that sucks more than they do though. I'll be happy if they get a quick hook. Then again, I'd be happy if they beat the Heat.
-- Like I said, I'm not a Bulls fan but watch them. They're like the Spurs of the East. They play together on both ends of the court and they have the pieces. Their lack of low post game would hurt them if they were in the west; but since they're in the east they can get away with it.
So the Lakers with Worthy, Magic, Jabbar, Scott and Rambis did it with inferior players? And Jordan, Pippen, Paxton, Rodman, those weren't the best players on a team? Last year the Cavs had James, Love and Irving. In Miami Bosh, James and Wade were the best group in the league. If Durant didn't go to the Warriors and James and company won it all, would you dismiss their championship?
Yes and Cleveland doesn't have home court advantage. I guess the regular season does matter.People who defend what Durant did don't understand how much this is ruining the game. You can basically pencil the warriors in for the trophy for the next 4 or 5 years. The only way anyone can have a shot is if they also build themselves a super team. That's really what basketball fans want to see? Even before Durant's move there was maybe 4 teams max you would even bother considering as contenders. It's at the point now where literally the only reason they even play the regular season is so owners can make some money. But anyone who knows anything realizes it's a complete waste of time because the final 4 teams were exactly who was predicted to be there from day 1. Lebron knows it, that's why they played so-so in a lot of games this season and why so many guys are taking games off. The only time it really matters is playoff time. It's kinda pathetic
No green no championship. See last year?Losing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteed
I'd love to see those two go to the Spurs or houstonLosing klay Thompson would barely make a dent in that team's prowess at this point. Neither curry or Durant are going anywhere anytime soon. Green may look to move though because he could be a number 1 on a lot of teams but even losing him wouldn't do much to keep that team out of the finals on a perrenial basisIt's also hard to keep a super team together. Klay Thompson is not going to keep being the 4th banana in that offense.Aren't pretty much all of the examples you just gave, players that were original members of said team other than maybe rodman and love? I don't have any problem at all with a franchise building a super team from the ground up though the draft. What I have a problem with is guys taking the easy way out and just signing with a super team because it's a guaranteed ring. The whole point of the ring being as special as it is, is that its NOT guaranteed
Green will never be the #1 guy on a NBA contender, neither will Thompson.
Wow I mean congratulations Durant, you're gonna win a championship on a team full of the best players in the leagueDidn't I say Durant would win a championship? Ok sure it's 5 years later but better late than neverI think the Spurs are boring and hope it isn't them who wins it all this year.
Did you forget Dallas? They may have a repeat in them but I doubt it. Its tough to do.
The Lakers. I was starting to think maybe them and then Meta World Piece of Shit punched that guy on Oklahoma and now I don't think so. And Bynum is an asshole too. Bad Karma on this team. No championship, I hope. But you never know with Kobe. He is great.
I think it is amazing that the Heat are probably not going to win again this year. I think it is a better story that Lebron still doesn't have a ring. I'm sure Cleveland fans agree.
Boston? Good but no way. But man is Rondo the bomb or what?
NY? I wish. I don't know why I want them to be good. NY is a big market and should be good. Spike Lee vs. Jack Nicholson finals would be great! Maybe next year when Lin is back.
I want Oklahoma to win and picked them earlier this year but now I'm not so sure. They are showing weaknessess all of the sudden. But I LOVE Durant. He's the best, not Lebron. And of course I mean when Kobe retires. Because he's still the best.
It would be cool if the Bulls won. But I just don't see that happening. They have to win one to win me over. But they are a solid TEAM and they have Rip Hamilton now too. Man what would Miami do if the Bulls beat them? OMG. I can't wait.
-- I'm sure people can say baseball's boring if it's not the Yankees and Dodgers or Red Sox and Mets in the World Series. I don't really like those arguments, but I understand them.
Just like a baseball enthusiast just prefers to see quality baseball irregardless of the teams; that's how I feel about the Spurs. Give me the 86 Celts to any Jordan team any day. I like the teams that gel perfectly and have all the pieces. It's a thing of beauty.
-- Dallas would have a great shot at back to back had Mark Cuban not got cheap and resigned Tyson Chandler. It was stupid. He was the defensive anchor. Not signing him made about as much sense as it would to not keep Dirk for his offense.
-- The Lakers can beat anyone but they're not a great team. They'll be done in one of the first two rounds most likely.
-- I love Lebron's skill set. But I don't like his attitude. I don't like that the league panders to him. I'd be happy to see him lose despite my appreciation for his athletic abilities.
All season long, I've watched him drive and offensive foul by plowing his shoulder into players. The refs let him do it and its a disservice to him b/c he doesn't think he has to work on his mid range game. That type of stuff can hurt him come playoff time.
-- Boston has the best record since the all-star break I believe. They're playing at a championship level and it's b/c Avery Bradley is a lockdown defender and solid scorer at SG. Ray Allen moved to the bench. They have what it takes. Rondo and Bradley will have to do heavy lifting and Pierce and KG will need to be vintage down the stretch of games though.
-- NY would be more interesting if they had Lin. Basically, the Howardless Magic are the only playoff team that sucks more than they do though. I'll be happy if they get a quick hook. Then again, I'd be happy if they beat the Heat.
-- Like I said, I'm not a Bulls fan but watch them. They're like the Spurs of the East. They play together on both ends of the court and they have the pieces. Their lack of low post game would hurt them if they were in the west; but since they're in the east they can get away with it.
So the Lakers with Worthy, Magic, Jabbar, Scott and Rambis did it with inferior players? And Jordan, Pippen, Paxton, Rodman, those weren't the best players on a team? Last year the Cavs had James, Love and Irving. In Miami Bosh, James and Wade were the best group in the league. If Durant didn't go to the Warriors and James and company won it all, would you dismiss their championship?
Turns out it was Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett that started this shit where great players join already great teams to form Super Teams.I picked Miami, but I thought 6 games, if Lebron could put his game together he is like Jordan, he is tough to beat.
Battier, Chalmers, Miller, Haslem, not a bad support team.
OKC had James Collison, Sefolosha, James Harden, Derek Fisher, Nazir Mohammed all on the bench, Battier and Chalmers were starting for the Heat. The Heat relied heavily on their superstars and they won with it. Now people are going to want to join the Heat like crazy, word on the street is Steve Nash, Ray Allen and Jason Terry are looking to head to South Beach. If this happens, Miami will win the next 2 championships easily.
Did I call it or what? Right now ESPN is saying Kevin Durant is the best player in the league.Well you already have a loss in your brackets. You said: Indiana beats Orlando - Easiest pick of all. I expect to see a sweep.
I picked Indiana too. Now can we all admit we have no fucking clue who's gonna beat who? Would you bet your life savings on any of these series? I wouldn't. Even right now Dallas seems to be handling OK so far in Oklahoma. They have been leadiing the entire game so far. Who knows what's going to happen. That's why its exciting to watch.
Maybe now that Rose is out I will watch to see if Philly can beat the Bulls, but I very much doubt that even without Rose. Hamilton will fill that void now that he is back.
We all hoped NY was going to upset Miami, but no way. And that Shumpert tore his ACL too? They are done. But even here I would not bet my life savings. You never know.
I'm optimistically pessimestic that the Bulls can still beat the Heat. And if not, maybe the Celtics can. Or Spurs or Mavs. Or Oklahoma, or even LA. I'd rather Kobe win again than see LeBron win. But right now I wouldn't even bet $100 that any one of these teams is going to win it all. I can only tell you what I hope/guess will happen.
Well, the side analysis not being spot as if I'm some sort of fortune teller, doesn't give me a loss in my bracket. A team actually losing a series busts my bracket.
But I think an Indy win is likely even still. But they cost themselves Game 1 by missing something like the last 9 shots and traveling when the game was on the line.
Hamilton sucks. I doubt he even cracks the rotation with Rose out. Philly has been awful; so who knows if they'll step up or not. But the Bulls losing Rose hurts. But not as much as you might think. The Bulls have played well w/o him. One reason would be that he is a sub par defender.
I think the Mavs exposed the Lakers last year when they swept them. I don't see them winning it all. But they already lucked out by drawing Denver and not LAC or Memphis or even Dallas in the first round.
Your post makes me wonder, who is the real MVP in the NBA. Its not Rose. Bulls almost as good without him. Duncan? How would the Spurs do without him? Kobe? Certainly not Dwight Howard because Orlando won without him. But that was only one game and it was only Indiana. BFD. But who's the Payton Manning of the NBA. The one guy the team can't do without. I say Kevin Durant. I think he's going to go down as one of the all time greats. He's amazing. Not built like LeBron but just as talented, in his own way. More Larry Brown when LeBron is more Magic.
Is it some guy on Utah or how about the Clippers? How would that team do without Griffin in the lineup? I don't know enough about the Grizzlies but I'm sure Gasol is a key player on that team.
Each team is one ankle roll away from losing a championship.
And think about how tightly taped up Rose was and he still blew out his knee. It wasn't like he went out with loose laces and no wraps. He has those braces on and everything. And yet he still blew out his knee? I hope for his sake and the Bulls he comes back next year. That is a waste of talent if he comes up a lame horse. Poor guy. But I can only feel so sorry for him because he has multi millions of dollars. I'm sure he'll find a way to get over it. He should have enough money for the rest of his life. And if not, like Tyson he will help stimulate the economy.
He got bullied by Jrue Holiday.Did I call it or what? Right now ESPN is saying Kevin Durant is the best player in the league.Well you already have a loss in your brackets. You said: Indiana beats Orlando - Easiest pick of all. I expect to see a sweep.
I picked Indiana too. Now can we all admit we have no fucking clue who's gonna beat who? Would you bet your life savings on any of these series? I wouldn't. Even right now Dallas seems to be handling OK so far in Oklahoma. They have been leadiing the entire game so far. Who knows what's going to happen. That's why its exciting to watch.
Maybe now that Rose is out I will watch to see if Philly can beat the Bulls, but I very much doubt that even without Rose. Hamilton will fill that void now that he is back.
We all hoped NY was going to upset Miami, but no way. And that Shumpert tore his ACL too? They are done. But even here I would not bet my life savings. You never know.
I'm optimistically pessimestic that the Bulls can still beat the Heat. And if not, maybe the Celtics can. Or Spurs or Mavs. Or Oklahoma, or even LA. I'd rather Kobe win again than see LeBron win. But right now I wouldn't even bet $100 that any one of these teams is going to win it all. I can only tell you what I hope/guess will happen.
Well, the side analysis not being spot as if I'm some sort of fortune teller, doesn't give me a loss in my bracket. A team actually losing a series busts my bracket.
But I think an Indy win is likely even still. But they cost themselves Game 1 by missing something like the last 9 shots and traveling when the game was on the line.
Hamilton sucks. I doubt he even cracks the rotation with Rose out. Philly has been awful; so who knows if they'll step up or not. But the Bulls losing Rose hurts. But not as much as you might think. The Bulls have played well w/o him. One reason would be that he is a sub par defender.
I think the Mavs exposed the Lakers last year when they swept them. I don't see them winning it all. But they already lucked out by drawing Denver and not LAC or Memphis or even Dallas in the first round.
Your post makes me wonder, who is the real MVP in the NBA. Its not Rose. Bulls almost as good without him. Duncan? How would the Spurs do without him? Kobe? Certainly not Dwight Howard because Orlando won without him. But that was only one game and it was only Indiana. BFD. But who's the Payton Manning of the NBA. The one guy the team can't do without. I say Kevin Durant. I think he's going to go down as one of the all time greats. He's amazing. Not built like LeBron but just as talented, in his own way. More Larry Brown when LeBron is more Magic.
Is it some guy on Utah or how about the Clippers? How would that team do without Griffin in the lineup? I don't know enough about the Grizzlies but I'm sure Gasol is a key player on that team.
Each team is one ankle roll away from losing a championship.
And think about how tightly taped up Rose was and he still blew out his knee. It wasn't like he went out with loose laces and no wraps. He has those braces on and everything. And yet he still blew out his knee? I hope for his sake and the Bulls he comes back next year. That is a waste of talent if he comes up a lame horse. Poor guy. But I can only feel so sorry for him because he has multi millions of dollars. I'm sure he'll find a way to get over it. He should have enough money for the rest of his life. And if not, like Tyson he will help stimulate the economy.