2 protests: One, Armed citizens, no riot, no looting. The other....riots, fires, looting, violence

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The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


 
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The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


This is more proof that an armed society is a peaceful and polite society.

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This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............
 
So, where are all these brave weapons brandishers now?


some of them were out guarding their store, the rest are at home protecting their families.......remember, you morons tell us to let the police protect us.......

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How's that working out?
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.
 
This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............

The one with the AR15's shut down the government state house and ended the democratic proceedings of the democratically elected government of the state - that's an act of EXTREME VIOLENCE. They intimidated the legislators into wearing body armour in the State House.

No property was lost, just the overwhelming will of the 80% of Americans who disagreed with these protestors. What these people destroyed, wasn't a building. They were aiding and abetting an armed insurrection.
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
 
This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............

The one with the AR15's shut down the government state house and ended the democratic proceedings of the democratically elected government of the state - that's an act of EXTREME VIOLENCE. They intimidated the legislators into wearing body armour in the State House.

No property was lost, just the overwhelming will of the 80% of Americans who disagreed with these protestors. What these people destroyed, wasn't a building. They were aiding and abetting an armed insurrection.


Tell us when the armed insurrection actually happens........cause it only happened in your fevered, delusional dreams.....
 
This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............

The one with the AR15's shut down the government state house and ended the democratic proceedings of the democratically elected government of the state - that's an act of EXTREME VIOLENCE. They intimidated the legislators into wearing body armour in the State House.

No property was lost, just the overwhelming will of the 80% of Americans who disagreed with these protestors. What these people destroyed, wasn't a building. They were aiding and abetting an armed insurrection.

No, its not. They were peaceful and the people were exercising their 2a rights. That same statehouse approved open carry. There was no extreme violence. You're either ignorant or lying.
 
This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............

The one with the AR15's shut down the government state house and ended the democratic proceedings of the democratically elected government of the state - that's an act of EXTREME VIOLENCE. They intimidated the legislators into wearing body armour in the State House.

No property was lost, just the overwhelming will of the 80% of Americans who disagreed with these protestors. What these people destroyed, wasn't a building. They were aiding and abetting an armed insurrection.

No, its not. They were peaceful and the people were exercising their 2a rights. That same statehouse approved open carry. There was no extreme violence. You're either ignorant or lying.

You're either ignorant or lying.

Both.......
 
For those supporting the Right to Keep and Bear arms...spread this through your social media......this crap has to be exposed and highlighted when it happens....
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
Here's a factual study for you, whether or not you believe it (as many conservatives don't rely on science and reason):

Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
Here's a factual study for you, whether or not you believe it (as many conservatives don't rely on science and reason):

Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.


Moron.....Americans use their legal guns 1.2 million times a year to stop violent crimes......as over 17 studies show.......these fake studies you guys push out are just dumb......

They looked at one city, you doofus.........and the worst parts of the city........

Meanwhile.....

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Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
Here's a factual study for you, whether or not you believe it (as many conservatives don't rely on science and reason):

Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.


And here....

I just averaged the studies at the bottom......I took only studies that exluded military and police gun use.....notice, theses studies which were conducted by different researchers, from both private and public researchers, over a period of 40 years looking specifically at guns and self defense....the name of the researcher is first, then the year then the number of times they determined guns were used for self defense......notice how many of them there are and how many of them were done by gun grabbers like the clinton Justice Dept. and the obama CDC

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
 
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
Here's a factual study for you, whether or not you believe it (as many conservatives don't rely on science and reason):

Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.
The left wing morons on the cable stations were complaining about the reaction to the two very different protests....the Chinese Flu lockdown protests vs. the killing of the Black American protest....

The left wing morons said the police didn't do anything to the Chinese Flu lockdown protests even though people showed up at state capitols with AR-15 rifles and carrying pistols....

The police during the protests of the police officers killing the Black American used tear gas to disperse the crowds...

Of course, being left wing morons, they failed to note the important distinction between the two protests...

The Chinese Flu lockdown protests where a few members of the crowd carried AR-15 rifles....did not break any laws, did not fire those weapons, did not threaten anyone, did not beat up women in wheel chairs, did not loot stores, burn police buildings, burn Target stores, start fires in general, and did not engage in the looting and destruction of businesses....

The Protests of the police officers who killed the Black American......allowed members to break the law, fired their illegal guns, threatened to murder other Americans, beat up a woman in a wheel chair, looted stores, burned businesses and police stations

Do you understand the difference between the reactions of the police to the Chinese Flu Lockdown protestors and the killing of the Black American police protests now?

When the embers turn cold after the torching of the Auto Zone and what’s left of the Target store picked apart by looters and rioters is put into sandwich-sized baggies and discarded; when the arson detectives finally determine what kind of accelerant was used to start the fire which destroyed an apartment building under construction, when George Floyd has been laid to rest, there will still be questions about the lady in the wheelchair.



The woman, identified by The New York Post as “Jennifer” was beaten, sprayed, pummeled, and given a fire extinguisher ‘shower’ while apparently trying to stop rioters from looting in Minneapolis Wednesday night. She placed herself in the doorway of the Target to prevent looters from getting away, she said later.

It was a fool’s errand.

Beating up Jennifer made as much sense as the looting in the first place.


Well, this is worth some consideration. However, please note that there is a HUGE difference between being strangled to death and having your favorite restaurant, nail salon, or massage parlor closed due to public health concerns. I scream false equivalency, which, unfortunately, is a favorite tactic of the conservatives. These two things are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being equivalent. Take a theory of knowledge class. It will help you discern the difference, and hence the different reactions.


No, it isn't false equivalency.......we are constantly told that More Guns = More Gun Crime....

And the two protests point out, again, the complete fallacy of that belief......

You guys tell us that guns cause murder and crime....that the mere presence of a gun in the home will cause a husband to murder his wife over the slightest argument....you tell us that guns cause more crime.......

You are wrong. Nothing you "feel" about guns and gun owners is true.....not one thing.
Here's a factual study for you, whether or not you believe it (as many conservatives don't rely on science and reason):

Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.


And here......actual research...

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape


However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.

I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.

First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.

Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).

Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.

Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."

The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.
 
This is a shout out to joe, and Tommytainant, and the other anti-gun extremists out there who tell us that Americans do not need to own guns.....they also tell us that more guns = more gun violence.......

What do you guys have to say with the two protests? Where the protest with law abiding citizens carrying guns had zero violence.......I repeat.......the protest where the armed Citizens had AR-15 rifles and hand guns....there was zero violence......

How do you guys explain that?

Please....we will patiently wait you silence on this issue..............

The one with the AR15's shut down the government state house and ended the democratic proceedings of the democratically elected government of the state - that's an act of EXTREME VIOLENCE. They intimidated the legislators into wearing body armour in the State House.

No property was lost, just the overwhelming will of the 80% of Americans who disagreed with these protestors. What these people destroyed, wasn't a building. They were aiding and abetting an armed insurrection.
That "guy" is undeserving of direct replies since his sense of honest discourse is as absent as his sense of reason. Putting people on "ignore" is unnecessary. Keep answering him if you like. I'll make sure your posts get bumped.
 

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