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You are comparing regional services in Europe with long haul service in the US.
If you are going to make a point, at least don't try to compare apples to Buicks.
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---------------------------------------------------- i'm a 'yooper' , probably seen more snow , trees , Lake Superior . low temperatures , blizzards than most people have ever seen Pogo .------------------------------ yeah , i think that they got some snow and then a tree fell on the tracks .Blue States Fail To Free Trapped Rail Passengers due to Lack of Emergency Prepardness
If a tree is on the tracks, why don't they just send out a few men to push it aside?
Ever seen a tree?
------------------------------ yeah , i think that they got some snow and then a tree fell on the tracks .Blue States Fail To Free Trapped Rail Passengers due to Lack of Emergency Prepardness
If a tree is on the tracks, why don't they just send out a few men to push it aside?
Is there a form of transportation that doesn`t get govt. subsidies? No. Those bullet trains that first tier countries have don`t pay for themselves either.An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
Govt subsidies
Not these current trains you moran.Trains are the future, at least that's what futurists like AOC insist. Maybe we can train a million young men now in school in the field of Pullman portering, in order to prepare for the coming Rail Boom?
I saw snow several times in England and on a Holiday down to the snow a few years ago.---------------------------------------------------- i'm a 'yooper' , probably seen more snow , trees , Lake Superior . low temperatures , blizzards than most people have ever seen Pogo .------------------------------ yeah , i think that they got some snow and then a tree fell on the tracks .Blue States Fail To Free Trapped Rail Passengers due to Lack of Emergency Prepardness
If a tree is on the tracks, why don't they just send out a few men to push it aside?
Ever seen a tree?
If Republicans didn't lie, they'd have NOTHING to say!Ah that' right. After we get rid of cars, airplanes and cows we have to build all new trains and scrap the old ones. God I love AOC!!! The best thing that has happened to the Republican party. LOL
An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
Lucky bastids. What a great time that must be.
Trains aren't anywhere remotely near the "closed space" that a plane is (or a car for that matter); you can walk around, eat in the dining car, observe in the observation car, and see way more cool land than you ever could by plane or car; it's no 'bumpier' than a rough road or air turbulence; how long it takes is not really the point when you have that scenery. Besides which, depending on the route (ask Joe Biden), shorter city-to-city trains get you there in LESS time than a car OR plane would, since it goes directly from town center to town center, has no need to deal with transportation to/from airports which are always located out in the hinterlands in case of crashes or with road traffic/jams/construction/accidents, and way less stressful.
Ever been on one? I went to Oregon (cross country) by train. It was awesome.
Simple. It’s a large bungling federal bureaucracy so it’ll be a least another couple weeks before someone thinks of that.------------------------------ yeah , i think that they got some snow and then a tree fell on the tracks .Blue States Fail To Free Trapped Rail Passengers due to Lack of Emergency Prepardness
If a tree is on the tracks, why don't they just send out a few men to push it aside?
You are comparing regional services in Europe with long haul service in the US.
If you are going to make a point, at least don't try to compare apples to Buicks.
Obvously never done the monteal to bc train ride! One of the best times of my life! Highly recomend! Amaizing nature to see, endless amounts of alcohol and food to eat and ya th epeople on there are freindly! Good time!An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
Lucky bastids. What a great time that must be.
Trains aren't anywhere remotely near the "closed space" that a plane is (or a car for that matter); you can walk around, eat in the dining car, observe in the observation car, and see way more cool land than you ever could by plane or car; it's no 'bumpier' than a rough road or air turbulence; how long it takes is not really the point when you have that scenery. Besides which, depending on the route (ask Joe Biden), shorter city-to-city trains get you there in LESS time than a car OR plane would, since it goes directly from town center to town center, has no need to deal with transportation to/from airports which are always located out in the hinterlands in case of crashes or with road traffic/jams/construction/accidents, and way less stressful.
Ever been on one? I went to Oregon (cross country) by train. It was awesome.
My favorite was the train in Ireland. We went from Dublin to Killarney with an intermediate stop in Blarney to kiss the stone, then after a few days in Killarney, took the train to Shannon. As you said, we got to see the beautiful countryside and the train was very comfortable and the food was surprisingly good too. I also liked the trains in England and took them all over the place. As we did in Germany, Switzerland and Austria. I've always wanted to take one here in the states from coast to coast like you did but never have. Have you seen the movie, Silver Streak? It's what made me want to do that.
i used to ride the trains as a widdleboy . Go to see Grandma . DAD was an official on a Railroad and we used to get Free train travel in a Sleeper and yeah , it was cool Pogo .An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
Lucky bastids. What a great time that must be.
Trains aren't anywhere remotely near the "closed space" that a plane is (or a car for that matter); you can walk around, eat in the dining car, observe in the observation car, and see way more cool land than you ever could by plane or car; it's no 'bumpier' than a rough road or air turbulence; how long it takes is not really the point when you have that scenery. Besides which, depending on the route (ask Joe Biden), shorter city-to-city trains get you there in LESS time than a car OR plane would, since it goes directly from town center to town center, has no need to deal with transportation to/from airports which are always located out in the hinterlands in case of crashes or with road traffic/jams/construction/accidents, and way less stressful.
Ever been on one? I went to Oregon (cross country) by train. It was awesome.
I'm comparing priorities, like how some other countries don't spend a trillion dollars a year
You are comparing regional services in Europe with long haul service in the US.
If you are going to make a point, at least don't try to compare apples to Buicks.
on their national security and bombing other countries.... and they invest in infrastructure instead. So it looks like the price of letting your government be an empire and police the planet is having a shitty rail system and bad bridges.
More than 500 Mississippi bridges remain closed
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I love riding the train. I do not like dealing with rail road officials. I had to put an over pass over a train track a few years back. They called me up and told me I was not going to do it as planned. I said you done bumped your head, ever heard of eminent domain. They laughed at me, I laughed at them for laughing at me. Then I got a phone call from my higher ups and I found out why they were laughing at me. They hold real power in this country!i used to ride the trains as a widdleboy . Go to see Grandma . DAD was an official on a Railroad and we used to get Free train travel in a Sleeper and yeah , it was cool Pogo .An Amtrak train with 183 passengers has been stranded in snowy Oregon since Sunday
By Christina Maxouris and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated at 9:07 AM ET, Tue February 26, 2019
(CNN) — As record snow keeps falling in Oregon, almost 200 people remain trapped on an Amtrak train that came to a sudden stop Sunday evening south of Eugene.
The train hit a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It hasn't moved more than 30 hours. But with heat, power and (so far) food, passengers say the mood onboard is surprisingly upbeat.
Amtrak train stranded in Oregon: Live updates
"It's just been like a giant kumbaya party," Rebekah Dodson told CNN early Tuesday. "Strangers are playing cards. A teenager played his ukulele to kids to get them to sleep. Ladies who have never met before were dancing in aisles."
Passengers await rescue on board the stuck train in Oregon. Photos provided by Rebekah Dodson.
Still, she said the "ordeal" is stressful, of course, as passengers cannot go anywhere. The train is surrounded by feet of snow. Some Los Angeles-bound college students have "panicked" because their professors won't accept their excuse for missing class, Dodson said.
The area has seen record-setting snow.
Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told CNN that none of the 183 passengers and dozen crew members were injured, but that "conditions further deteriorated with numerous track blockages from snow and fallen trees."
"Due to worsening conditions, area road closures and no viable way to safely transport passengers or crews via alternate transportation, Train 11 stopped in Oakridge, Oregon," he said. "We are actively working with Union Pacific to clear the right of way and get passengers off the train."
The train had power and enough food on board -- for which passengers will not be charged, Amtrak said on Twitter on Monday.
But Dodson said Tuesday morning that passengers had been told breakfast was the last meal available. She was trying to return home to Kalamath after a teaching conference in Portland.
She said the passengers include families with children and a few dozen college students -- including about 20 students from Japan. Crew members had been "professional and nice" throughout.
Amtrak said the train could be heading back to Eugene on Tuesday.
Passenger Carly Bigby told CNN affiliate KOIN 6 the snack cart on the train is empty and people have run out of diapers for their children.
"A lot of the [older] kids have been really good but they're having to run up and down and it's a lot," she told the news station. "Especially the food -- it's not really food they're liking. Moms are doing all they can right now."
Bigby also said some people don't have good cell phone reception in the area where the train is stuck, and haven't been able to easily contact their family. Train 11, which operates daily between Seattle and Los Angeles, struck the fallen tree around 6:18 p.m. Sunday, Magliari said.
Amtrak anticipates the train will return to Eugene on Tuesday morning, he said.
CNN's Joe Sutton contributed to this report.
Personally, I don't understand how Amtrak is still in business.
It's a closed space, a bumpy ride, it takes at least 8 times as long to get the destination as by plane, and costs about twice as much.
To top it off, they have derailments and crap like this going on that can take your life like that.
I just don't get it.
Lucky bastids. What a great time that must be.
Trains aren't anywhere remotely near the "closed space" that a plane is (or a car for that matter); you can walk around, eat in the dining car, observe in the observation car, and see way more cool land than you ever could by plane or car; it's no 'bumpier' than a rough road or air turbulence; how long it takes is not really the point when you have that scenery. Besides which, depending on the route (ask Joe Biden), shorter city-to-city trains get you there in LESS time than a car OR plane would, since it goes directly from town center to town center, has no need to deal with transportation to/from airports which are always located out in the hinterlands in case of crashes or with road traffic/jams/construction/accidents, and way less stressful.
Ever been on one? I went to Oregon (cross country) by train. It was awesome.
Great opportunity for some AOC government jobs. Send a couple hundred thousand men out there with shovels.
Lock em up . More profitable.Great opportunity for some AOC government jobs. Send a couple hundred thousand men out there with shovels.
Yeah. Give the homeless a shovel and point them in the right direction. LMAO