P F Tinmore
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From what i understand those video are not new, maybe im worng BUT this is not an argument "i said you said" the FACT is that Hamas and the Fatah are ENEMIES!!!! Not political enemies, ememies when Hamas KILL the Fatah members!!!!
Hamas control Gaza while Fatah control the West Bank. Ask anyone with real knowledge not form the media.
YouTube - Hamas gangs kill Fatah members in Gaza
YouTube - Hamas
YouTube - Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life
YouTube - GAZA - The War Hamas vs Fatah. never seen Must Watch!!! HAMAS KILLING CIVILIANS IN GAZA
The videos you posted do not necessarily conflict with what I said. There is a part of Fatah, Abbas and his followers, who have sold out to Israel and the US. All the money and weapons are provided to them. They are supposed to provide "security" and "restore law and order." That is a euphemism for taking out any resistance to the occupation in general and Hamas in particular. These US armed, paid, and trained forces (look for the names Dahlan and General Keith Dayton) were employed in Gaza to take over the elected government and put the losers (Fatah) back in power. That takeover failed leaving the elected government in power in Gaza. The part of Fatah that was involved in this attack was routed. The Fatah members who were not involved were given amnesty from Hamas the day after the "coup." There still are members of Fatah in Gaza who are trying to destabilize the government and spy for Israel and those are the ones under attack by the government and Hamas. There are other Fatah members who are loyal to Palestine and they are still active in the government in Gaza. I mentioned the four PLC member who still hold their seats in Gaza.
The Gaza Bombshell
After failing to anticipate HamasÂ’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, the author reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
by David Rose
The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair
I apologize in front if what i'm going to say sound rude not my intention but your post have nothing to do with reality. I have no idea were you live but i strongly suggest you to go to the near UNI and ask some professor who teach Middle East program about that.
Plus according to you if as a Palestine you want to live in peace with Israel or if you a Plestine leader who want noting to do with Iran AKA Hamas AKA terror and you provide your people education opportunities, good jobs and etc.. thats mean that you "sold out you pepole" but if you use pepole as a human shield, sent them to suicide mission, hide wapen in kindergartens while you sit comfortable and safe in Damesek - that mean you loyal to them.
As a human bean regardless of my religion, the place i live in, my skin color or whatever you think define me as a person i feel sad that someone somewere think like that.
I have no idea were you live but since i wish everyone in earth peace love and good life i hope that your leaders "sold you out" and they not "loyal to you".
It is probably true that Iran does support Palestine through the elected government i.e. Hamas, but I have seen no evidence that Iran has influenced Hamas. I have not seen where Iran has told Hamas to do anything.
I don’t think any faction has any more concern about peace, education, and jobs than any other. The point I am making is that Abbas is not the president. Fayyad is not the Prime Minister. The whole government in Ramallah is illegitimate. That “government” was installed by the US to serve Israel where the Hamas lead elected government is there to serve the people. That is why Abbas is called “moderate” while Hamas is called every name in the book.