Zone1 "15 days to slow the spread" Article by J.Stossel

[martybegan]

'15 Days to Slow the Spread'

Looking back on the beginning of the pandemic response, the issue to me isn't that they initially over-reacted, it's that once they had data showing it was most impactful on the elderly and those with co-morbidities, they didn't adjust the response, instead embracing brute government force.

It led to crazy things like shutting down wide open outside spaces, closing off gardening sections of stores, and once they knew children were largely unaffected, the prolonged shutdown of schools.

Some demanded police to go after people surfing. They took down the rims of basketball hoops. Children's playgrounds were taped up like crime scenes. They told people in rural Utah and Wyoming to stay in their homes.

In the name of safety, politicians did many things that diminished our lives, without making us safer.

They complied with teachers unions' demand to keep schools closed. Kids' learning has been set back by years.

Politicians destroyed jobs by closing businesses. Some shutdown orders were ridiculous. Landscaping businesses and private campgrounds were forced to shut down.

Both Donald Trump and Joe Biden sharply increased government spending. Trump's $2.2 trillion "stimulus" package, followed by Biden's $1.9 trillion "American Rescue Plan," led to so much money-printing that inflation doubled and then tripled.

This week, the fourth-year anniversary of "15 days to stop the spread," my new video looks back at politicians' incompetence.

 

[Oddball]

The upshot of the whole contrived incident is that the left -which includes an alarming number of "republicans"- revealed themselves for the complete tyrants that they are.

 

[martybegan]

The upshot of the whole contrived incident is that the left -which includes an alarming number of "republicans"- revealed themselves for the complete tyrants that they are.

The first few weeks, when people thought it had anywhere from a 3%-5% mortality rate across the population, I could understand the hard lockdowns. Something like that could destroy a modern society. That's like 10-17 million deaths in the US alone.

When they figured out that it was mostly dangerous to the elderly and those with certain conditions, they should have changed their strategy, but they didn't.

 

[DGS49]

It is amazing in a way that a catastrophic event that is so recent remains surrounded in so much ignorance.

The teachers' unions have been given a complete "pass" for their sabotaging of public education, costing millions of school children at least a year of education. Fauci has been given a pass for the dozens of lies and misdirections that he facilitated. The destructive effects of previously-unthinkable levels of Federal spending have been forgotten, and indeed have evolved into the NORM. Hundreds of "reputable" news outlets and thousands of journalists have been given plenary absolution for the lies they told to support the various Leftist narratives that surrounded the Pandemic.

How can you learn from history when it is forgotten just a few years after it happens?

 

[Oddball]

That they could have changed their approach, but didn't, revealed their character.

 

[martybegan]

It is amazing in a way that a catastrophic event that is so recent remains surrounded in so much ignorance.

The teachers' unions have been given a complete "pass" for their sabotaging of public education, costing millions of school children at least a year of education. Fauci has been given a pass for the dozens of lies and misdirections that he facilitated. The destructive effects of previously-unthinkable levels of Federal spending have been forgotten, and indeed have evolved into the NORM. Hundreds of "reputable" news outlets and thousands of journalists have been given plenary absolution for the lies they told to support the various Leftist narratives that surrounded the Pandemic.

How can you learn from history when it is forgotten just a few years after it happens?

They could at least admit that it wasn't about "the children" but about their own safety. They were worried about getting sick. For some, the older ones and the ones with existing conditions that were co-morbidities, paid leave would have been the answer, or letting them teach remotely the parents that didn't want to send their kids to school yet.

But they went with the one size fits all, "remote learning".

 

[martybegan]

That they could have changed their approach, but didn't, revealed their character.

It also reveals their intent later on to use the situation to their political advantage.

 

[Oddball]

It also reveals their intent later on to use the situation to their political advantage.

Yes....Character.

 

[Moonglow]

It is amazing in a way that a catastrophic event that is so recent remains surrounded in so much ignorance.

The teachers' unions have been given a complete "pass" for their sabotaging of public education, costing millions of school children at least a year of education. Fauci has been given a pass for the dozens of lies and misdirections that he facilitated. The destructive effects of previously-unthinkable levels of Federal spending have been forgotten, and indeed have evolved into the NORM. Hundreds of "reputable" news outlets and thousands of journalists have been given plenary absolution for the lies they told to support the various Leftist narratives that surrounded the Pandemic.

How can you learn from history when it is forgotten just a few years after it happens?

And we have high inflation due to Trump shutting down the US and paying people to stay at home.

 

[rightwinger]

COVID was an unknown threat where nobody knew the details of how it spreads and how it can be stopped. What they did know is that it was deadly.

In the absence of specifics about COVID, the best strategy was to enforce known preventive measures against pandemics
That included isolation, social distancing and masks for everyone

 

[martybegan]

And we have high inflation due to Trump shutting down the US and paying people to stay at home.

Don't forget the Governors, who had the real power to shut States down.

The whole response was messed up, to varying degrees.

 

[martybegan]

COVID was an unknown threat where nobody knew the details of how it spreads and how it can be stopped. What they did know is that it was deadly.

In the absence of specifics about COVID, the best strategy was to enforce known preventive measures against pandemics
That included isolation, social distancing and masks for everyone

Until they found out it wasn't as lethal to the general population as they initially thought, and then they should have changed strategies.

You still think shutting down parks, beaches, and other open spaces was warranted?

 

[Moonglow]

Until they found out it wasn't as lethal to the general population as they initially thought, and then they should have changed strategies.

You still think shutting down parks, beaches, and other open spaces was warranted?

I thought it was a bad idea from the get go.

 

[martybegan]

I thought it was a bad idea from the get go.

I wonder if that "Reaper" guy who was on beaches still wears a mask by himself when in his own car.

 

[Moonglow]

I wonder if that "Reaper" guy who was on beaches still wears a mask by himself when in his own car.

They also used the moment to spread unfounded fear into the young.

 

[JoeMoma]

Joe Biden is in office now because of Covid. Before Covid, the economy was strong and it looked like Trump was going to roll right into a second Term. Because of Covid, Biden was allowed to hide in his basement for most of he election campaign and many of the swing states allowed changes in voting procedures such as mass mail in ballots that was not approved by state legislatures.

 

[rightwinger]

Until they found out it wasn't as lethal to the general population as they initially thought, and then they should have changed strategies.

You still think shutting down parks, beaches, and other open spaces was warranted?

They were still trying to stop the spread.
A healthy patient catching it and spreading to others does not help

No, shutting down outdoor spaces was not necessary but was done to keep people from congregating
Outdoor spaces were the first to reopen

 

[martybegan]

They were still trying to stop the spread.
A healthy patient catching it and spreading to others does not help

No, shutting down outdoor spaces was not necessary but was done to keep people from congregating
Outdoor spaces were the first to reopen

It does if it leads to herd immunity and attenuation of the virus.

Isolate the vulnerable, let everyone else get on with their lives when the real mortality information came out.

It was done as a sign of power by those in power.

And then even indoor restrictions were ignored by those in power.

Column: Newsom endures two embarrassments with French Laundry dinner and unemployment scam

 

[two_iron]

All that to steal an election and make a loathsome runt a multi-millionaire.

Some things are unforgivable.

 

[Care4all]

When they figured out that it was mostly dangerous to the elderly and those with certain conditions, they should have changed their strategy, but they didn't

I think our shortage of tests and some other supplies helped prevent changing strategies, and made the situation so much worse than it could have been if tests were a dime a dozen....

Also, how to protect the elderly and other high risks, if everyone around them like co workers, their children and grand children and parishioners, food delivery or grocery delivery guy etc. in contact with them has Covid19? Rapid and home testing early on, could have helped with an alternative plan to what happened...