15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

[Grumblenuts]

Sorry the world remains greater than the sum of your fragile ego parts.
Here, this should cheer you up:

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry the world remains greater than the sum of your fragile ego parts.
Here, this should cheer you up:

The yellow ones are his favorite.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I'm not even gonna ask how you know that, lol

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not even gonna ask how you know that, lol

By deduction. Nobody likes yellow. Therefore ding will post 20 pages of copypasta ontological nonsense that PROVES yellow is the best, and then he will declare victory.

 

[Indeependent]

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What is fascinating about the words “evening” and “morning” is that they convey more than mere times of the day.

Evening
The word in Hebrew for “evening” is erev (or ereb). It does mean darkness, dusk, evening, and sunset, but it came out of the understanding of obscurity, mixture, chaos, increasing entropy.

When the day approaches evening, things increasingly get obscured, it becomes hard to see, darkness (chaos) encroaches, and there is seeming movement toward disorder (entropy). The word came to mean “evening” because of this.

Morning
The morning is the opposite of evening. Sunlight pierces the darkness and things become discernible. Entropy decreases, visibility is restored, and a seeming order ensues. This is why the Hebrew word boker (or boqer) came to mean “morning.”

Fascinating indeed that

• Erev does, in fact, mean Evening - the direct opposite of Indeependent's claim
• Boker does, in fact, mean Morning - the direct opposite of Indeependent's claim
• Just never you mind there being no "Sun, Moon, & Stars" until "the fourth day"
• How "obscure" is used to obscure the No light so how could anyone tell? question
• Indeed, no light > "hard to see" | light > "things become discernible" > "visibility is restored"
• "entropy" is depicted and employed opposite to its actual meaning
• In reality, "Sunlight" produces warmth > greater "entropy," "chaos," "mixture," less "order"

Thanks for admitting you don't know Hebrew.

 

[ding]

Granted, I was being kind. What you really argued was even dumber, dummy.

No. That was you bearing false witness against me. Not you being kind. It was the opposite of you being kind, dummy.

Sorry the world remains greater than the sum of your fragile ego parts.

Not sure what that has to do with you bearing false witness against me by misstating what I believe.

And as for fragile egos, it would seem your failure to apologize reveals more about yours than mine.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So "Granted", "Sorry", and a whole bag of dicks weren't enough for ya? Ah, poor fella

 

[Grumblenuts]

Thanks for admitting you don't know Hebrew.

No problem. Yeah, I don't know Hebrew. Greek either. But I can often smell pure bullshit a mile away.

 

[Indeependent]

Thanks for admitting you don't know Hebrew.

No problem. Yeah, I don't know Hebrew. Greek either. But I can often smell pure bullshit a mile away.

Cool...You know Hebrew is all over this thing called the...Internet.
In fact, Ding proved me right and your Emotional Disturbance couldn't handle it so you ignored it.

 

[ding]

So "Granted", "Sorry", and a whole bag of dicks weren't enough for ya? Ah, poor fella

Laughing leads to crying.

 

[Grumblenuts]

According to Biblica.com:

The earliest copies of parts of the Hebrew Old Testament were discovered in 1947. They are part of the famous Dead Sea Scrolls and actually date back to the first century BC. Even though they are at least 900 years older than any parts of the Bible we had before this, they are not the originals. They are copies. The originals have all been lost or destroyed. But we are not at all doubtful that we may not have the original text. Copying by scribes was done with great care in those days and because the text was regarded as sacred, the copyists were extremely painstaking. Today some 5000 hand-copied documents exist of all or part of the Bible, and they agree in 98% of the text! No other ancient writing has this amount of underlying support with such amazing agreement as to the text.

Yes, we do have what God wanted us to have! By way of translation, we now have His revelation in our own language and in 2300 other languages, too. Today we have the very Bible that comes to us from the three languages used in the original. Truly we can say, “God speaks my language, too!”

And what version does Biblica.com use? "the New International Version (NIV)"
And how does it translate "erev" and "boker" in Genesis 1?

The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

"Waters" already? Seriously?

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

The very "first day" Ho boy..

And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

Wait, already? Whaa?..

And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

Damn, skippy.. not from what I've been hearing lately! Supposed to be all dark still!..

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Ah, so before there was just some temporary light fixture this "God" was apparently turning on during "the day" and switching off at "night" for some weird, undisclosed reason. Apparently bored and unhappy with doing this daily chore, this "God" then "made" the Sun, Moon, and "the stars." Never mind that the Sun is also a star, that other planets go without mention, that the Moon just reflects the Sun's light so isn't really a "light" source,..

What a story. A true classic!

 

[Grumblenuts]

Cool...You know Hebrew is all over this thing called the...Internet.
In fact, Ding proved me right and your Emotional Disturbance couldn't handle it so you ignored it.

You did what now?

 

[Indeependent]

Cool...You know Hebrew is all over this thing called the...Internet.
In fact, Ding proved me right and your Emotional Disturbance couldn't handle it so you ignored it.

You did what now?

Are you aware that your post is not at all grammatically related to my post?
Not that I'm surprised.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Cool...You know Hebrew is all over this thing called the...Internet.
In fact, Ding proved me right and your Emotional Disturbance couldn't handle it so you ignored it.

You did what now?

Are you aware that your post is not at all grammatically related to my post?
Not that I'm surprised.

Oh well. Didn't really expect you to get the point in the first place.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Reading this version should make clear that these supposed original Hebrews (mainly Moses apparently), along with those making the alleged 5,000 or so "original" copies / translations, had no idea whatsoever that the Earth orbited the Sun, nor that the Moon orbited the Earth. They were strictly Flat Earthers who presumed these two "lights" just traveled across the sky. The Sun during the day. The Moon at night.

The Moon could actually be going by anytime, by why get technical? Well, because one hell of a lot of people still imagine this "God chose" to only communicate this important history / "message" to this backward bunch of people, way back when. A living god, especially one that many claim to engage with "personally," could easily update this pile of ignorant nonsense to make it better conform with our modern, scientific understanding of reality. But no. We must rely upon our best modern revisionists to explain how we're just reading it all wrong instead.

No, laughing doesn't lead to crying, dummy. We choose to laugh because it beats the alternative. Life is struggle.

 

[Indeependent]

Reading this version should make clear that these supposed original Hebrews (mainly Moses apparently), along with those making the alleged 5,000 or so "original" copies / translations, had no idea whatsoever that the Earth orbited the Sun, nor that the Moon orbited the Earth. They were strictly Flat Earthers who presumed these two "lights" just traveled across the sky. The Sun during the day. The Moon at night.

The Moon could actually be going by anytime, by why get technical? Well, because one hell of a lot of people still imagine this "God chose" to only communicate this important history / "message" to this backward bunch of people, way back when. A living god, especially one that many claim to engage with "personally," could easily update this pile of ignorant nonsense to make it better conform with our modern, scientific understanding of reality. But no. We must rely upon our best modern revisionists to explain how we're just reading it all wrong instead.

No, laughing doesn't lead to crying, dummy. We choose to laugh because it beats the alternative. Life is struggle.

I'll skip the fact that this is Christian English and opposed to Hebrew.
To which verse or verses are you referring?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Genesis 1 obviously. You pick. It's all just silliness to me.

 

[Indeependent]

Genesis 1 obviously. You pick. It's all just silliness to me.

You are inferring you have read it and I don't believe you have.
Be specific; I know it's hard for you, but give it a shot.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I didn't just read it. I already quoted and analyzed much of it above. Go with that.

 

[ding]

Reading this version should make clear that these supposed original Hebrews (mainly Moses apparently), along with those making the alleged 5,000 or so "original" copies / translations, had no idea whatsoever that the Earth orbited the Sun, nor that the Moon orbited the Earth. They were strictly Flat Earthers who presumed these two "lights" just traveled across the sky. The Sun during the day. The Moon at night.

The Moon could actually be going by anytime, by why get technical? Well, because one hell of a lot of people still imagine this "God chose" to only communicate this important history / "message" to this backward bunch of people, way back when. A living god, especially one that many claim to engage with "personally," could easily update this pile of ignorant nonsense to make it better conform with our modern, scientific understanding of reality. But no. We must rely upon our best modern revisionists to explain how we're just reading it all wrong instead.

No, laughing doesn't lead to crying, dummy. We choose to laugh because it beats the alternative. Life is struggle.

Kind of hard to tell who you are responding to. I guess you don't want them getting alerts.

Creatio ex nihlo is a belief of the Judaeo-Christian faith, dummy.

That you see life as a struggle instead of an amazing, precious and rare gift speaks volumes about you and your biases and lack of objectivity.