$120,472 billion

[TemplarKormac]

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

You poked Muslims with a stick.
9/11

Suck it up.

Such an obnoxious comment.

Robert O'Neill called, he says he has your prayer mat. Come and get it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We could build a huge wall along the southern border

With $120 billion? I mean the government spent nearly a $1.2 billion on a freaking website.

we could redistribute the cash back into the pockets of American taxpayers which would give us all more buying power thus helping our domestic economy

John Maynard Keynes would be proud of you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

You poked Muslims with a stick.
9/11

Suck it up.

I think I hear a goat calling your name, my friend.

 

[Indofred]

I think I hear a goat calling your name, my friend.

See, no answer available, so bullshit will do.

 

[Indofred]

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

You poked Muslims with a stick.
9/11

Suck it up.

Such an obnoxious comment.

Robert O'Neill called, he says he has your prayer mat. Come and get it.

Obnoxious? Yes, but also true.

 

[Indofred]

Really? Like I said earlier, you would much rather that "massive free cash" go straight to Palestine--so they could easily facilitate the destruction of a sovereign nation. You don't give the slightest damn about our homeless, poor, or veterans. You would much rather Israelis sleep on the streets anyway.

Please quote the post where I say that.
Thank you for your help in this matter.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

You poked Muslims with a stick.
9/11

Suck it up.

Such an obnoxious comment.

Robert O'Neill called, he says he has your prayer mat. Come and get it.

Obnoxious? Yes, but also true.

Yes, it is indeed true your comment was obnoxious. I'm glad we agree. Good day.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Really? Like I said earlier, you would much rather that "massive free cash" go straight to Palestine--so they could easily facilitate the destruction of a sovereign nation. You don't give the slightest damn about our homeless, poor, or veterans. You would much rather Israelis sleep on the streets anyway.

Please quote the post where I say that.
Thank you for your help in this matter.

Actions speak louder than words, my Muslim friend.

 

[aris2chat]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

 

[theliq]

And yet another failed attempt at demonising Israel by LYING about what they get, when the truth is Israel pays the US more than it receives as most of the money is in the form of loans. And as every one knows LOANS attract interest that must be paid. This also keeps many thousands of Americans employed in the defence and IT business, who would have been laid of many years ago if the ISLAMONAZI STOOGES had their way.

Care to explain why you LIED and tried to blame Israel for the homeless in the USA ?

"Loans" demand interest! America shouldn't need to borrow from anyone for any reason. We should be productive and powerful enough to be self-sustaining WITHOUT borrowing from anyone at all.

But America IS borrowing from China and the Jewish banking cartel for some, odd reason. Here's a tidbit of wisdom that many (most) folks totally overlook and/or ignore:

Proverbs 22:7, "The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Try again the US is issuing loans to Israel under treaties singed 25 years ago, and Israel is the only country in receipt of US aid that is forced to spend it in the US. The IMF know that this is a scam to allow the US to subsidise their industries without falling foul of International laws on subsidies.

Yes, Israel spends the money on US goods and services so it goes to generating jobs and tax dollars within the US. The loans are good business for the US.

Our tax money goes to Israel so they can buy US goods and it generates jobs so we can pay taxes and they can continue to buy goods, what a bunch of crap. Even if it were true, it stupid, its our money to begin with.

A course in Ecnomics 101 would be of help to you. That is if you graduated from High School yet.

Gooday Hoss,trust you and your are well..steve

 

[Indofred]

Please quote the post where I say that.
Thank you for your help in this matter.

Actions speak louder than words, my Muslim friend.

Translated - you can't, because I didn't say it.
Thanks for that.

 

[Indofred]

Yes, it is indeed true your comment was obnoxious. I'm glad we agree. Good day.

But remains true.
The United States attacked Muslims, but ended up getting a bloody nose for its trouble.
You then went on to ***** about how badly done to you were, totally ignoring all the Muslims you've killed being the reason you were hit.

In fact, as a nation, you're pretty pathetic.

 

[aris2chat]

Yes, it is indeed true your comment was obnoxious. I'm glad we agree. Good day.

But remains true.
The United States attacked Muslims, but ended up getting a bloody nose for its trouble.
You then went on to ***** about how badly done to you were, totally ignoring all the Muslims you've killed being the reason you were hit.

In fact, as a nation, you're pretty pathetic.

and what of arab/muslim attacks on the US? US has been involved for more than 50 yrs. Violence back then nearly sparked a global nuclear war before the Cuban crisis.
Why have there been so many deaths at the hand of arabs/muslims instead of talking and cooperation with those that live in the middle east? Why have arabs/muslims triggered so many wars over the years? Why was it necessary to draw in the US into the region's violence?

 

[DriftingSand]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

 

[DriftingSand]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone of Irish descent who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

 

[Hossfly]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

What does that have to do with the OP? Or the price of suitcases in Walmart?

 

[aris2chat]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

To orthodox, they don't welcome converts. Mostly it depends on if you practice your faith or do you identify with the faith of your parents. You can be a jew by birth but not actually practice the faith. Some only observe holidays and high holy days.
Like any religion it depends on the individual and what feel inside.
You do not need to be a member of a synagogue to identify as a jew. You don't even have to be jewish to say your own prayer at the wall or leave a note. You don't have to be jewish to observe the holidays.
You can enter any house of worship no matter your professed faith and feel a connection to a higher power, something greater than yourself.

You decide your identity no matter who your DNA is from or what your were taught growing up.

Too make an aliyah or actually become an Israel as a jew is more complex. It is not just religious but legal qualifications involved.

 

[DriftingSand]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

To orthodox, they don't welcome converts. Mostly it depends on if you practice your faith or do you identify with the faith of your parents. You can be a jew by birth but not actually practice the faith. Some only observe holidays and high holy days.
Like any religion it depends on the individual and what feel inside.
You do not need to be a member of a synagogue to identify as a jew. You don't even have to be jewish to say your own prayer at the wall or leave a note. You don't have to be jewish to observe the holidays.
You can enter any house of worship no matter your professed faith and feel a connection to a higher power, something greater than yourself.

You decide your identity no matter who your DNA is from or what your were taught growing up.

Too make an aliyah or actually become an Israel as a jew is more complex. It is not just religious but legal qualifications involved.

So if I say something negative about someone who considers himself/herself to be a Jew but isn't accepted by Israel-proper then I'm not being anti-Semitic? That being the case then I wouldn't be anti-Semitic if I were to say something negative about an entire nation of people who converted to Judaism in the 8th Century A.D.? (Speaking about the Khazar Kingdom that converted to Judaism in the 8th Century but has no genetic relationship to biblical Israel).

 

[aris2chat]

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

Sami converted. Whoopie is not jewish. Kravitz is part jewish on his father's side. Bonet is jewish on her mother's side.
Jones is jewish on her mother's side.

So are they Jews or not? Is someone who practices Judaism a Jew? Is someone who has Jewish blood who practices Christianity or Atheism still a Jew?

To orthodox, they don't welcome converts. Mostly it depends on if you practice your faith or do you identify with the faith of your parents. You can be a jew by birth but not actually practice the faith. Some only observe holidays and high holy days.
Like any religion it depends on the individual and what feel inside.
You do not need to be a member of a synagogue to identify as a jew. You don't even have to be jewish to say your own prayer at the wall or leave a note. You don't have to be jewish to observe the holidays.
You can enter any house of worship no matter your professed faith and feel a connection to a higher power, something greater than yourself.

You decide your identity no matter who your DNA is from or what your were taught growing up.

Too make an aliyah or actually become an Israel as a jew is more complex. It is not just religious but legal qualifications involved.

So if I say something negative about someone who considers himself/herself to be a Jew but isn't accepted by Israel-proper then I'm not being anti-Semitic? That being the case then I wouldn't be anti-Semitic if I were to say something negative about an entire nation of people who converted to Judaism in the 8th Century A.D.? (Speaking about the Khazar Kingdom that converted to Judaism in the 8th Century but has no genetic relationship to biblical Israel).

It would be racist to attack a religion, converts or not. If a grandmother converted, the children and grandchildren are jewish. Particular strands of DNA the same as ancient jews can link people but there might have been forced conversion to Christianity or Islam under threat of death.
Blood or practice, you should not be slamming people that are in some way jewish because you have a problem with the politics of a country.
Fix your own actions and word and those of what ever group you identify with before even thinking about what you find improper about others. Maybe it is not "Jews" that are the problem, but rather it is with yourself instead.

If you are asking about what anti-Semitic is, you don't have enough personal experience to rightfully criticize jews. You would just be mouthing old rhetoric and hate passed like a virus without understanding what the origin is or what the consequences could be, or too ignorant and bitter to care about others, jews and no jews alike.

Nations throughout history have converted or adopted various faiths. People do not need to be "born" into a faith, but rather find it for themselves. Christians learned about God from jews and muslims learned from jewish and christians. Judaism is not an easy path and people do not want to be the target of misunderstanding, hate or attacks. There is a responsibility and burden to being jewish. People have to truly believe such a path is right for them. Conversion is not such an easy undertaking. It is not just a statement of faith or being blessed with water. It takes years of study.

There are jews in just about every corner of the world. Are you going to hate them all just because they don't accept a particular prophet or practice?

Blood or belief, what did all those people around the world do to you personally that you would speak against them or their faith?

 

[Phoenall]

...see through you and your propaganda...

An interesting expression.

As Pro- Palestinians are pretty clear on what they want. No hidden agenda. No pretence.
Israelis out of Palestine and out of Palestinians affairs.

The only questions is how that should be done, and I think most agree that there needs to be active resistance of every sort - military included - but the main push has to be diplomatic and economic.

Though there may also be a question as to how far Israelis need to go to be 'out of Palestine'.
My preference would be the 1947 borders, but 1967 could do, in a pinch.

The problem is they define Palestine as including Israel, and that is where the problems arise. How would you and the rest of team Palestine react if the Jews stated that in view of the Palestinians demands they want no muslims in any part of Palestine.

Care to produce evidence of 1947 borders agreed by all parties, and then 1967 borders agreed by all parties