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[aris2chat]

[QUOTE="aris2chat, post: 10178312, member: 35553"

Toxic Islam? Yes, we know how devastating it can be. Evidence is everywhere.
So how do you think Toxic Islam should be neutrally studied and immunity fostered?

Come on Aris. You really should take the ideas with a little more introspection.
Toxic memes is the point. Christianity (with the majority holding in Zionism) is at least as toxic as Islam. Islam is described as being repelled by the memes that the west spread, but they could as easily say extermist Judaism is repelled by the memes of western thought.

Just look at the nonsense about sitting next to a woman on an airplane. Or the idea that women shouldn't be allowed to pray at the wailing wall.

Islam can be violent, but hell, so can Christianity and Judaism.

Be best to ban all these creepy cults if you ask me. However, that would still leave people wanting to kill and die for "their country". That, of course is becoming increasingly meaningless in a corporate tax-evading world.[/QUOTE]

I don't hold to a religion, but I do respect that for some faith is a motivation to doing good for others and for the planet.
No one religion is "right" but rather all faiths if balanced with education and common sense can be of guidance in life.
Religion should not be all consuming, but a tool among many to a more acceptable relationship with others.

Myths have been a part of human life since we learned to communicate. They are a ways to help us relate to what might be too complex to grasp. Myths have always be part of civilization. You can't so casually throw them away.

 

[Beelzebub]

I don't hold to a religion, but I do respect that for some faith is a motivation to doing good for others and for the planet.
No one religion is "right" but rather all faiths if balanced with education and common sense can be of guidance in life.
Religion should not be all consuming, but a tool among many to a more acceptable relationship with others.

Myths have been a part of human life since we learned to communicate. They are a ways to help us relate to what might be too complex to grasp. Myths have always be part of civilization. You can't so casually throw them away.

I can agree with a lot of that.
Just the last line, maybe no. We could do without the religion, while still appreciating the myths and legends.

 

[DriftingSand]

Its hard to appreciate what you think we are hiding. Israel out. USA out.

That is pretty much it.

Well ... we wouldn't be the USA unless we were IN everyone else's business (while our own nation swirls down the proverbial toilet into complacent, immoral, and amoral oblivion).

 

[DriftingSand]

I've been saying it for years: America needs to clean up her own messes before messing around with the problems occurring half way around the globe.

I sent my sister an "e-Card" for her birthday the other day. We emailed back and forth and were having a nice conversation when I made a HUGE mistake. I dared to criticize our government for pandering to special interest groups ... including Israel. She brought our conversation to an abrupt halt and hasn't spoken to me since. The moral to my little story is that Americans (especially "fundamentalist" "Christians") have become an idolatrous bunch. They literally WORSHIP the term "Israeli" as if it is a god of sorts. You can criticize Ireland, France, Brazil, or Uganda and nobody will blink an eye but say one thing negative about Israel and you'll see a human being turn into a rabid dog full of wrath. It's a true phenomenon.

Ever thought that it is you with the problem due to your RACISM and NAZI JEW HATRED

By the way ... what "RACE" are the Jews?

Whoopi Goldberg (Jewish)

Paul Newman (Jewish)

Sammy Davis Jr. (Jewish)

Gwyneth Paltrow (Jewish)

Jeff Goldblum (Jewish)

Rashida Jones (Jewish)

Lenny Kravitz (Jewish)

Lisa Bonet (Jewish)

Kate Hudson (Jewish)

I shall patiently await your "educated" response!!!

 

[Beelzebub]

Its hard to appreciate what you think we are hiding. Israel out. USA out.

That is pretty much it.

Well ... we wouldn't be the USA unless we were IN everyone else's business (while our own nation swirls down the proverbial toilet into complacent, immoral, and amoral oblivion).

I reluctantly agree. The USA has so much good there too. And real great rhetoric. If only it would follow the best of it a bit more.

 

[Indofred]

You have to be careful with Fred. I caught him lying big time in the last thread he started. He is a sneaky SOB

Perhaps you'd like to stop making suggestions regarding my mother, and actually comment on the thread.
I say, corrupt American politicians send cash to Israel, but ignore their own people, because they get massive bribes to do so.

 

[Indofred]

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Managed to recruit anybody in America with an IQ over 60 yet?

As is common, when truth is posted, some members can't manage an answer, so they revert to bullshit and insults.

 

[Indofred]

Yes, Israel spends the money on US goods and services so it goes to generating jobs and tax dollars within the US. The loans are good business for the US.

No, the loads are a sham.
You may as well just give Israel a load of free guns, and save the paperwork.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So much cash sent to Israel.

Good Americans support Israel, and don't give a fuck about their own people.

What would rather us do? Give it to Palestine?

 

[Hossfly]

So much cash sent to Israel.

Good Americans support Israel, and don't give a fuck about their own people.

And yet another failed attempt at demonising Israel by LYING about what they get, when the truth is Israel pays the US more than it receives as most of the money is in the form of loans. And as every one knows LOANS attract interest that must be paid. This also keeps many thousands of Americans employed in the defence and IT business, who would have been laid of many years ago if the ISLAMONAZI STOOGES had their way.

Care to explain why you LIED and tried to blame Israel for the homeless in the USA ?

"Loans" demand interest! America shouldn't need to borrow from anyone for any reason. We should be productive and powerful enough to be self-sustaining WITHOUT borrowing from anyone at all.

But America IS borrowing from China and the Jewish banking cartel for some, odd reason. Here's a tidbit of wisdom that many (most) folks totally overlook and/or ignore:

Proverbs 22:7, "The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Try again the US is issuing loans to Israel under treaties singed 25 years ago, and Israel is the only country in receipt of US aid that is forced to spend it in the US. The IMF know that this is a scam to allow the US to subsidise their industries without falling foul of International laws on subsidies.

Yes, Israel spends the money on US goods and services so it goes to generating jobs and tax dollars within the US. The loans are good business for the US.

Our tax money goes to Israel so they can buy US goods and it generates jobs so we can pay taxes and they can continue to buy goods, what a bunch of crap. Even if it were true, it stupid, its our money to begin with.

A course in Ecnomics 101 would be of help to you. That is if you graduated from High School yet.

 

[Indofred]

Care to explain why you LIED and tried to blame Israel for the homeless in the USA ?

What lie?
If the massive free cash to Israel stopped, you could easily look after your own, homeless, destitute veterans, instead of letting them sleep on the streets.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Come on Aris. You really should take the ideas with a little more introspection.

You can't introspect the inside of a paper bag.

 

[Indofred]

What would rather us do? Give it to Palestine?

Some, yes.
You owe Palestine a debt of rebuilding costs because America supplied the weapons, knowing they would be used to mass murder the innocent.

 

[Indofred]

you still live in a third world shithole fred.....sorry....

No answer - just bullshit in the hope of sounding clever.
Epic fail.

 

[TemplarKormac]

What would rather us do? Give it to Palestine?

Some, yes.
You owe Palestine a debt of rebuilding costs because America supplied the weapons, knowing they would be used to mass murder the innocent.

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

Your disproportionate force argument is invalid.

 

[Indofred]

You know how full of crap you are right? You know how much of a double standard that is? We don't owe them anything. They choose to poke the dog with a stick, in turn they deserve to be torn to shreds. And don't think Palestine cares for its own people either. Using their own as human shields against Israel in Gaza? The blood is on their hands, not ours, not Israel's.

You poked Muslims with a stick.
9/11

Suck it up.

 

[toastman]

You have to be careful with Fred. I caught him lying big time in the last thread he started. He is a sneaky SOB

Perhaps you'd like to stop making suggestions regarding my mother, and actually comment on the thread.
I say, corrupt American politicians send cash to Israel, but ignore their own people, because they get massive bribes to do so.

Ok. This thread, like most of the ones you start, is stupid. You pink on Israel when it comes to U.S giving money to foreign countries. You ignore all the other countries that receive aid and grants because of your hatred for Israel.
Also, you are trying to suggest that stopping aid to Israel will cure poverty in the U.S. That's ridiculous.

 

[Kondor3]

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Managed to recruit anybody in America with an IQ over 60 yet?

As is common, when truth is posted, some members can't manage an answer, so they revert to bullshit and insults.

You should know...

Your side excels at that...

The rest of us are just pikers by comparison...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Care to explain why you LIED and tried to blame Israel for the homeless in the USA ?

What lie?
If the massive free cash to Israel stopped, you could easily look after your own, homeless, destitute veterans, instead of letting them sleep on the streets.

Really? Like I said earlier, you would much rather that "massive free cash" go straight to Palestine--so they could easily facilitate the destruction of a sovereign nation. You don't give the slightest damn about our homeless, poor, or veterans. You would much rather Israelis sleep on the streets anyway.

 

[DriftingSand]

So much cash sent to Israel.

Good Americans support Israel, and don't give a fuck about their own people.

What would rather us do? Give it to Palestine?

I'd personally like to see us invest our money domestically before sending it anywhere else at all. We could build a huge wall along the southern border; we could donate the money to Habitat for Humanity and build homes here in the USA; we could invest the money in oil discovery and refineries here in the USA; we could redistribute the cash back into the pockets of American taxpayers which would give us all more buying power thus helping our domestic economy; we could concentrate those funds on bridge repair and/or construction as well as roads, highways, parks, and other American structures that benefit Americans; etc.