10 Traits Found In Socialists

[NYcarbineer]

[No.. if you noticed, nowhere did I say the populace should be forced to provide for the education of others... I support voluntary means of funding a system for educating minors... I did not support forcing parents to use the public school system.... I do support communities choosing how they would wish to fund a schooling system for minors.. and with the communities choosing, if you do not like how it is done in your community, you can freely move to another that more closely mirrors what you wish to do... at a federal level, you do not have the choice to go somewhere else as an American

Every growing socialism is indeed wrong... more powers out of the hands of individuals and into the hands of government is indeed wrong

But note also that things such as community law enforcement, military compensation for work delivered, etc is not being socialist... as many on the far left try to mistakenly argue

A public education system run by the government funded by 'forced' taxes is no different that a public defense system run by the government funded by 'forced' taxes.

If one is socialism, so is the other.

 

[Diuretic]

I wouldn't mind the arguments being put against "socialism" if the arguments actually addressed socialism. What they are doing is attacking a straw man of someone else's creation. Socialism, like any other politico-economic system deserves to be critiqued. It's an idea that is about the same age as capitalism and it has been implemented in various forms since the idea first took root in human thought. Sometimes it's worked, sometimes it's been a disaster, for various reasons. It seems to me that apart from the ideologues who demand a pure 100% version of either socialism or laissez-faire capitalism that most of us understand the mix is important. But you can still be a socialist or a capitalist if you support the mix, the discussion would at least be on point then.

 

[driveby]

Still crying about forced desegregation?

The same old bullshit hackneyed straw man argument that people who want less government interference in their lives are some how racist.

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

 

[Vanquish]

Oooooh he called them "pussies"...he must be a bad-ass!!! (probably with a small pecker since he's talking shit like that)

 

[Coyote]

The same old bullshit hackneyed straw man argument that people who want less government interference in their lives are some how racist.

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression.

I had no idea that slavery was about enforcing equality.

 

[driveby]

Oooooh he called them "pussies"...he must be a bad-ass!!! (probably with a small pecker since he's talking shit like that)

Dear "centrist" moron,

The "pussies" i'm referring to are the "i want the government to take care of me and make things fair" crowd. Has nothing to do with how "bad" anyone is or isn't.

Sincerely,

The bad motherfucker with a big dick ......

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I'm against the public school system

You just told us everything we need to know about you: those who aren't born into money should stay uneducated and poor so the rich can continue to enslave them

 

[driveby]

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression.

I had no idea that slavery was about enforcing equality.

Were all slaves not relatively equal ? ....

 

[driveby]

I'm against the public school system

You just told us everything we need to know about you: those who aren't born into money should stay uneducated and poor so the rich can continue to enslave them

Public schools worked wonders for you ......

 

[Coyote]

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression.

I had no idea that slavery was about enforcing equality.

Were all slaves not relatively equal ? ....

to their masters....?

 

[driveby]

Oppression.

I had no idea that slavery was about enforcing equality.

Were all slaves not relatively equal ? ....

to their masters....?

you're catching on .......

 

[Vanquish]

This thread just goes to prove that people can have NO working knowledge of the term socialist...can even be proven WRONG about their usage of the word...but yet, for partisan, emotional reasons, they continue to cling to rhetoric.

 

[Neser Boha]

Agree or disagree...?

1.Socialists believe in the use of force to gain their personal ends. Whether it's light bulbs or alternative energy or public schools or national health care, in the end there's always a gun at your head to get you to conform. If a man holds you up in the street, does it matter if he wants the money for drugs or to bail out someone's mortgage? It's still a gun, and it's still armed robbery.


2.Socialists believe in slavery. Their concept is not the slavery of an individual owning another individual, but of a state owning the output of the individual. We are now forced to work four months out of the year for the federal government before we see a dime of our own income, and it's getting worse. Our new administrtion has just indebted every family an additional $11,000 without our permission or approval. This is economic slavery. (If you don't believe me, watch what happens if you don't pay your taxes. See No. 1 above.)


3.Socialists are racists. The content of the character doesn't matter; it's all about the color of the skin. Read the e-mail I received in response to last week's column, in which the writer somehow made the extraordinary leap in logic from my premise of government fiscal irresponsibility to William Byrd whipping slaves three centuries ago. Yes, Byrd was a nasty man. But what on earth did that have to do with the topic of my column? This illustrates that socialists will always bring up the subject of race, regardless of the prevailing drift of the conversation.
Most people tend to look at the content of peoples' character rather than the color of their skin. If someone is honest, hardworking and decent, then who cares what he looks like? But if they're angry, abusive and violent … then sorry, the content of their character is demonstrating that they're not people to associate with, regardless of skin color. Conservatives – true conservatives – really don't give a diddly darn about someone's melanin content. As columnist Burt Prelutsky put it, "… most white Americans don't spend a lot of time dwelling on anyone's race. They're much too busy trying to make a living and raise their kids."

4.Socialists believe the worst in everyone. They believe that we are all racists, therefore racism must be shoved in our faces constantly. They believe we are stingy, so we must have our money forcibly removed and redistributed to others. They believe we are heartless and that the only source of compassion is the government, so compassion becomes government-mandated.


5.Socialists think religion, especially Christianity, is stupid and nothing but a prop for the unwashed masses. Why else would they forbid expressions of faith anywhere except (grudgingly) within the walls of a church? Religious people are seen as uneducated, primitive, bitterly-clinging troglodytes.


6.Socialists believe in an ignorant society. How else can we explain their slavish devotion to a public school system that is so dumbed down that students can't read their own diplomas? Socialists know an ignorant society is good. Useful idiots are more amenable to dominance than citizens who have read and understood the documents of the Founding Fathers.


7.Socialists believe you have no right of self-defense. They don't even want you to talk about it in a school assignment. They pretend to have utter faith that government agents can protect you from any and all harm. In reality, it's the government agents that are among our biggest threats. What socialists are really concerned about is your ability to defend yourself against them.


8.Socialists are intolerant. If you have a dissenting opinion, you are mocked and ridiculed for having the temerity to disagree. Socialists do not believe in freedom of speech or they wouldn't be concerned about Rush Limbaugh or what ministers say from the pulpit.


9.Socialists are hypocrites. They expect the unwashed masses to conform to their ideals while they, the lofty and elite, are exempt. How else can you explain Al Gore's energy-sucking mansion? How else can they claim conservative talk radio or Internet news is too powerful when socialists dominate the newspaper and television media?


10.Above all, socialists are in denial. No matter how much you point out the obvious – that the government is fulfilling the dictionary definition of socialism – they flat deny it. If you point out the horrors of socialized medicine, for example, a socialist will say "But this time it will be different." Socialists are unconcerned that the government holds 40 percent of Citibank and over 80 percent of AIG. Nancy Pelosi assures us that government takeovers of banks should be "transitional" but not permanent, and Steny Hoyer hesitates "to use the word nationalization." You'll notice they don't deny it's a government takeover. They merely refuse to call a duck a duck. Quack quack.

Sibby Online: Socialist traits

Total and utter bullshit. This person has no idea whatsoever what he/she's talking about. The whole world is cracking up at Americans' use of the word 'socialism' and 'socialist' (especially in connection with Obama and his policies) because it proves how ignorant you are of those terms.

 

[The T]

Agree or disagree...?

1.Socialists believe in the use of force to gain their personal ends. Whether it's light bulbs or alternative energy or public schools or national health care, in the end there's always a gun at your head to get you to conform. If a man holds you up in the street, does it matter if he wants the money for drugs or to bail out someone's mortgage? It's still a gun, and it's still armed robbery.


2.Socialists believe in slavery. Their concept is not the slavery of an individual owning another individual, but of a state owning the output of the individual. We are now forced to work four months out of the year for the federal government before we see a dime of our own income, and it's getting worse. Our new administrtion has just indebted every family an additional $11,000 without our permission or approval. This is economic slavery. (If you don't believe me, watch what happens if you don't pay your taxes. See No. 1 above.)


3.Socialists are racists. The content of the character doesn't matter; it's all about the color of the skin. Read the e-mail I received in response to last week's column, in which the writer somehow made the extraordinary leap in logic from my premise of government fiscal irresponsibility to William Byrd whipping slaves three centuries ago. Yes, Byrd was a nasty man. But what on earth did that have to do with the topic of my column? This illustrates that socialists will always bring up the subject of race, regardless of the prevailing drift of the conversation.
Most people tend to look at the content of peoples' character rather than the color of their skin. If someone is honest, hardworking and decent, then who cares what he looks like? But if they're angry, abusive and violent … then sorry, the content of their character is demonstrating that they're not people to associate with, regardless of skin color. Conservatives – true conservatives – really don't give a diddly darn about someone's melanin content. As columnist Burt Prelutsky put it, "… most white Americans don't spend a lot of time dwelling on anyone's race. They're much too busy trying to make a living and raise their kids."

4.Socialists believe the worst in everyone. They believe that we are all racists, therefore racism must be shoved in our faces constantly. They believe we are stingy, so we must have our money forcibly removed and redistributed to others. They believe we are heartless and that the only source of compassion is the government, so compassion becomes government-mandated.


5.Socialists think religion, especially Christianity, is stupid and nothing but a prop for the unwashed masses. Why else would they forbid expressions of faith anywhere except (grudgingly) within the walls of a church? Religious people are seen as uneducated, primitive, bitterly-clinging troglodytes.


6.Socialists believe in an ignorant society. How else can we explain their slavish devotion to a public school system that is so dumbed down that students can't read their own diplomas? Socialists know an ignorant society is good. Useful idiots are more amenable to dominance than citizens who have read and understood the documents of the Founding Fathers.


7.Socialists believe you have no right of self-defense. They don't even want you to talk about it in a school assignment. They pretend to have utter faith that government agents can protect you from any and all harm. In reality, it's the government agents that are among our biggest threats. What socialists are really concerned about is your ability to defend yourself against them.


8.Socialists are intolerant. If you have a dissenting opinion, you are mocked and ridiculed for having the temerity to disagree. Socialists do not believe in freedom of speech or they wouldn't be concerned about Rush Limbaugh or what ministers say from the pulpit.


9.Socialists are hypocrites. They expect the unwashed masses to conform to their ideals while they, the lofty and elite, are exempt. How else can you explain Al Gore's energy-sucking mansion? How else can they claim conservative talk radio or Internet news is too powerful when socialists dominate the newspaper and television media?


10.Above all, socialists are in denial. No matter how much you point out the obvious – that the government is fulfilling the dictionary definition of socialism – they flat deny it. If you point out the horrors of socialized medicine, for example, a socialist will say "But this time it will be different." Socialists are unconcerned that the government holds 40 percent of Citibank and over 80 percent of AIG. Nancy Pelosi assures us that government takeovers of banks should be "transitional" but not permanent, and Steny Hoyer hesitates "to use the word nationalization." You'll notice they don't deny it's a government takeover. They merely refuse to call a duck a duck. Quack quack.

Sibby Online: Socialist traits

Total and utter bullshit. This person has no idea whatsoever what he/she's talking about. The whole world is cracking up at Americans' use of the word 'socialism' and 'socialist' (especially in connection with Obama and his policies) because it proves how ignorant you are of those terms.

How's 'Marxist' strike you?

 

[Neser Boha]

Agree or disagree...?

Total and utter bullshit. This person has no idea whatsoever what he/she's talking about. The whole world is cracking up at Americans' use of the word 'socialism' and 'socialist' (especially in connection with Obama and his policies) because it proves how ignorant you are of those terms.

How's 'Marxist' strike you?

In connection with Obama? It strikes me as idiotic as 'socialist.' Also, the entire debate to me is highly soporific as it is led w/o exception by a bunch of good-for-nothing dullards whose unhealthy obsession with and hatred of Obama has cost them their connection with reality. It is perfectly fine to oppose something - sensibly and rationally - but it becomes a hysterical freak-show that intelligent people simply can't take seriously when somebody starts making connections and comparisons between totally unrelated things. That means the persons in question are 'losing their shit' and are 'running out of sensible and logical arguments.' That was the case even with folks comparing Bush to Hitler. They might have had 'a point' somewhere, but they immediately forfeited it by making such ridiculous comparison.

So yeah, that's my take on the whole thing.

*yawn*

 

[The T]

Total and utter bullshit. This person has no idea whatsoever what he/she's talking about. The whole world is cracking up at Americans' use of the word 'socialism' and 'socialist' (especially in connection with Obama and his policies) because it proves how ignorant you are of those terms.

How's 'Marxist' strike you?

In connection with Obama? It strikes me as idiotic as 'socialist.' Also, the entire debate to me is highly soporific as it is led w/o exception by a bunch of good-for-nothing dullards whose unhealthy obsession with and hatred of Obama has cost them their connection with reality. It is perfectly fine to oppose something - sensibly and rationally - but it becomes a hysterical freak-show that intelligent people simply can't take seriously when somebody starts making connections and comparisons between totally unrelated things. That means the persons in question are 'losing their shit' and are 'running out of sensible and logical arguments.' That was the case even with folks comparing Bush to Hitler. They might have had 'a point' somewhere, but they immediately forfeited it by making such ridiculous comparison.

So yeah, that's my take on the whole thing.

*yawn*

*YAWN* all you like as your liberties are taken from you piecemeal.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The same old bullshit hackneyed straw man argument that people who want less government interference in their lives are some how racist.

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression is the enforcement of the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, and possess inalienable rights?

 

[amrchaos]

I have an issue with number 6

What does the op suggest? Private schools only. Can you maximize the amount of people educated through a Private school only system? I do not think so, yet I do not see any other option being presented on this option.

By the way, you do understand the reason why we wish to maximize the number of educated citizens, don't you? If you have an idea, present it. Understand the requirements for the new idea--it maximizes the number of educated citizens and it is more cost efficient than the public school system we have now.

 

[The T]

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression is the enforcement of the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, and possess inalienable rights?

At the point of a Gun? You will buy healthcare lest you pay a penality or go to jail?

You WILL pay for this for 4 years before you can avail yourself of it?

You are twisted. You know damned well what the Founders meant. But you applaud the oppressors.

Why?

 

[driveby]

It's not a straw man, you idiot. He's literally complaining about the government enforcing equality because equality is evil.

What qualifications do these democrat assholes posses that gives them the ability to "enforce" equality ? Because socialist loving pussies like you vote for them ?

P.S. There is another term for "enforcing equality", it's called oppression ......

Oppression is the enforcement of the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, and possess inalienable rights?

Is that what this administration and the current democrat congress is doing ?