1,204 U.S. sites Recorded their Coldest-Ever October Temperature

[skookerasbil]

So I'm laughing.....top story over on DRUDGE right now!!

Weather forecast: Arctic blast next week to hit Midwest, East, South

Only the AGW k00ks think the public wont notice and be more concerned with 0.2 degrees the scientists are talking about!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A staggering 1,204 U.S. sites Recorded their Coldest-Ever October Temperatures last month - Electroverse

According to official NOAA data, more than twelve-hundred monthly low temperature records fell ACROSS the U.S. in October 2019 — multiple Arctic air masses rode anomalously-far south on the back of a wavy jet stream flow, itself associated with historically low solar activity.

The sun is currently in its deepest solar minimum of the past 100+ years, and the jet stream has weakened as a result; its usual tight ‘zonal’ flow has more-often-than-not reverted to a loose ‘meridional’ one. This wavy flow has diverted brutal Arctic air into the lower-latitudes, and is responsible for the U.S. either busting or tying a staggering 1204 all-time MONTHLY low temperature records in October 2019 (double the number of new heat records).

Now this is why the cooling is important... night time temps are dropping globally.

It's that time of year again, when rightwing nitwits exhibit their ignorance and lack of understanding the difference between climate and weather.

 

[ReinyDays]

"... using dynamic models in static mode ..."

Because ALL of your models FAIL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. I dont use garbage to predict what is coming.

Dynamic models and climate models use different algorithms ... any similarities are strictly superficial ... I've been following NWS copy for over 25 years and these dynamic models are actually quite good and mostly accurate out three days ... and the forecasters in my area are usually quite candid about the results ... if the several all give the same solution, then that's the forecast and almost always spot-on ... if the several are everyplace, the forecasters will say that and admit to guessing tomorrow's weather ... every spring, the National Hurricane Center postmortems all their forecasts the previous hurricane season ... and a fairly exhaustive error analysis is posted every year ... dynamic models don't "fail" at 72 hours out very much ... past 72 hours you'll want your money on the pass line ... I believe the models NOAA developed are available for download, you can run them yourself and read through the code; unfortunately, the better dynamic models are proprietary and only the results can be made public, and the error analysis I mentioned above ...

The problem is that forecasters only have six hours to run the several models, interpret the results and type out a dozen text documents ... then start over for the next forecast package ... and everything is changing all the time ... so in "static mode", nothing's changing which greatly improves accuracy ... and we can set a bigger, faster, better computer on the problem and let it run for a few weeks ... and most important, we use the exact same computer, the exact same code for the exact same time for each year ... so whatever errors there are will be reflected through the entire data set ...

Climate models are a different kittle of fish ... punch in data from 100 years ago and run the fool thing ... then go look and see if the oceans are boiling off ... No? ... keep that in mind when we punch in today's data and run it ... the ocean might not be boiling off 100 years from now either ... if ($∆T > 1ºC) {echo "The oceans will boil off";} ... else {echo "The oceans will <i>still</i> boil off";} ... The National Enquirer pays good money for results like this ...

I'm blathering again aren't I? ... go look at the 5 day forecast for Hurricane Sandy ... five days before she made landfall on the New Jersey coast ... now explain why you think that's a failure? ...

 

[skookerasbil]

A staggering 1,204 U.S. sites Recorded their Coldest-Ever October Temperatures last month - Electroverse

According to official NOAA data, more than twelve-hundred monthly low temperature records fell ACROSS the U.S. in October 2019 — multiple Arctic air masses rode anomalously-far south on the back of a wavy jet stream flow, itself associated with historically low solar activity.

The sun is currently in its deepest solar minimum of the past 100+ years, and the jet stream has weakened as a result; its usual tight ‘zonal’ flow has more-often-than-not reverted to a loose ‘meridional’ one. This wavy flow has diverted brutal Arctic air into the lower-latitudes, and is responsible for the U.S. either busting or tying a staggering 1204 all-time MONTHLY low temperature records in October 2019 (double the number of new heat records).

Now this is why the cooling is important... night time temps are dropping globally.

It's that time of year again, when rightwing nitwits exhibit their ignorance and lack of understanding the difference between climate and weather.

Ignorance as defined by the anointed only though......

The climate doesnt equal weather narrative is well known to the public for many, many years! But the public doesnt care so really, who are the real ignoramous's?

Spiking the football based upon symbolic shit is ghey....embraced only by progressives who occupy the political fringe.

 

[Billy_Bob]

"... using dynamic models in static mode ..."

Because ALL of your models FAIL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. I dont use garbage to predict what is coming.

Dynamic models and climate models use different algorithms ... any similarities are strictly superficial ... I've been following NWS copy for over 25 years and these dynamic models are actually quite good and mostly accurate out three days ... and the forecasters in my area are usually quite candid about the results ... if the several all give the same solution, then that's the forecast and almost always spot-on ... if the several are everyplace, the forecasters will say that and admit to guessing tomorrow's weather ... every spring, the National Hurricane Center postmortems all their forecasts the previous hurricane season ... and a fairly exhaustive error analysis is posted every year ... dynamic models don't "fail" at 72 hours out very much ... past 72 hours you'll want your money on the pass line ... I believe the models NOAA developed are available for download, you can run them yourself and read through the code; unfortunately, the better dynamic models are proprietary and only the results can be made public, and the error analysis I mentioned above ...

The problem is that forecasters only have six hours to run the several models, interpret the results and type out a dozen text documents ... then start over for the next forecast package ... and everything is changing all the time ... so in "static mode", nothing's changing which greatly improves accuracy ... and we can set a bigger, faster, better computer on the problem and let it run for a few weeks ... and most important, we use the exact same computer, the exact same code for the exact same time for each year ... so whatever errors there are will be reflected through the entire data set ...

Climate models are a different kittle of fish ... punch in data from 100 years ago and run the fool thing ... then go look and see if the oceans are boiling off ... No? ... keep that in mind when we punch in today's data and run it ... the ocean might not be boiling off 100 years from now either ... if ($∆T > 1ºC) {echo "The oceans will boil off";} ... else {echo "The oceans will <i>still</i> boil off";} ... The National Enquirer pays good money for results like this ...

I'm blathering again aren't I? ... go look at the 5 day forecast for Hurricane Sandy ... five days before she made landfall on the New Jersey coast ... now explain why you think that's a failure? ...

None of this matters... Your models can not model the system they were designed for.. They fail without exception. They are worthless... Public policy should never be set from these piles of crap.

 

[Billy_Bob]

these dynamic models are actually quite good and mostly accurate out three days

All Modeling fails inside 36 hours... (+2 STD).. and most fail inside 12 hours. I use 5 different models in my work and they can not predict anything accurately outside 12 hours.

 

[skookerasbil]

"... using dynamic models in static mode ..."

Because ALL of your models FAIL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. I dont use garbage to predict what is coming.

Dynamic models and climate models use different algorithms ... any similarities are strictly superficial ... I've been following NWS copy for over 25 years and these dynamic models are actually quite good and mostly accurate out three days ... and the forecasters in my area are usually quite candid about the results ... if the several all give the same solution, then that's the forecast and almost always spot-on ... if the several are everyplace, the forecasters will say that and admit to guessing tomorrow's weather ... every spring, the National Hurricane Center postmortems all their forecasts the previous hurricane season ... and a fairly exhaustive error analysis is posted every year ... dynamic models don't "fail" at 72 hours out very much ... past 72 hours you'll want your money on the pass line ... I believe the models NOAA developed are available for download, you can run them yourself and read through the code; unfortunately, the better dynamic models are proprietary and only the results can be made public, and the error analysis I mentioned above ...

The problem is that forecasters only have six hours to run the several models, interpret the results and type out a dozen text documents ... then start over for the next forecast package ... and everything is changing all the time ... so in "static mode", nothing's changing which greatly improves accuracy ... and we can set a bigger, faster, better computer on the problem and let it run for a few weeks ... and most important, we use the exact same computer, the exact same code for the exact same time for each year ... so whatever errors there are will be reflected through the entire data set ...

Climate models are a different kittle of fish ... punch in data from 100 years ago and run the fool thing ... then go look and see if the oceans are boiling off ... No? ... keep that in mind when we punch in today's data and run it ... the ocean might not be boiling off 100 years from now either ... if ($∆T > 1ºC) {echo "The oceans will boil off";} ... else {echo "The oceans will <i>still</i> boil off";} ... The National Enquirer pays good money for results like this ...

I'm blathering again aren't I? ... go look at the 5 day forecast for Hurricane Sandy ... five days before she made landfall on the New Jersey coast ... now explain why you think that's a failure? ...

Philosophy is ghey.

Theorizing on the climate and its relation to big storms is fun but only happens on community message boards that 99% of the population doesnt know or care about. If such banter is having no effect on the makers of public policy, it's no more important than a group navel contemplation session consisting of 13 members.

The public doesnt care.

How do we know this?

Well we know this because nobody is calling Congress to concur with the sentiments of the climate hysterics.

 

[skookerasbil]

"... using dynamic models in static mode ..."

Because ALL of your models FAIL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. I dont use garbage to predict what is coming.

Dynamic models and climate models use different algorithms ... any similarities are strictly superficial ... I've been following NWS copy for over 25 years and these dynamic models are actually quite good and mostly accurate out three days ... and the forecasters in my area are usually quite candid about the results ... if the several all give the same solution, then that's the forecast and almost always spot-on ... if the several are everyplace, the forecasters will say that and admit to guessing tomorrow's weather ... every spring, the National Hurricane Center postmortems all their forecasts the previous hurricane season ... and a fairly exhaustive error analysis is posted every year ... dynamic models don't "fail" at 72 hours out very much ... past 72 hours you'll want your money on the pass line ... I believe the models NOAA developed are available for download, you can run them yourself and read through the code; unfortunately, the better dynamic models are proprietary and only the results can be made public, and the error analysis I mentioned above ...

The problem is that forecasters only have six hours to run the several models, interpret the results and type out a dozen text documents ... then start over for the next forecast package ... and everything is changing all the time ... so in "static mode", nothing's changing which greatly improves accuracy ... and we can set a bigger, faster, better computer on the problem and let it run for a few weeks ... and most important, we use the exact same computer, the exact same code for the exact same time for each year ... so whatever errors there are will be reflected through the entire data set ...

Climate models are a different kittle of fish ... punch in data from 100 years ago and run the fool thing ... then go look and see if the oceans are boiling off ... No? ... keep that in mind when we punch in today's data and run it ... the ocean might not be boiling off 100 years from now either ... if ($∆T > 1ºC) {echo "The oceans will boil off";} ... else {echo "The oceans will <i>still</i> boil off";} ... The National Enquirer pays good money for results like this ...

I'm blathering again aren't I? ... go look at the 5 day forecast for Hurricane Sandy ... five days before she made landfall on the New Jersey coast ... now explain why you think that's a failure? ...

None of this matters... Your models can not model the system they were designed for.. They fail without exception. They are worthless... Public policy should never be set from these piles of crap.

Indeed Billy.....and its having zero impact on public policy. Renewable energy is still a joke and will be for decades to come.

Costs dont matter to progressives.....but do for the rest of the public thank God!

 

[ReinyDays]

None of this matters... Your models can not model the system they were designed for.. They fail without exception. They are worthless... Public policy should never be set from these piles of crap.

There's folks who are offering a million dollar prize to anyone who can show a counter-example to NS ... if you can show these failures, then I'd go collect that money if I was you ... but yeah, in 2005 New Orleans' public policy didn't use "these piles of crap" and over two thousand people died ... again, why was the Sandy forecast a failure? ...

 

[ReinyDays]

All Modeling fails inside 36 hours... (+2 STD).. and most fail inside 12 hours. I use 5 different models in my work and they can not predict anything accurately outside 12 hours.

Which models are you using and what computer are you running them on ... [giggle] ... a WinTel box ... or have you stacked a few hundred MiniMacs? ... what unit volume and iteration? ...

 

[jc456]

A staggering 1,204 U.S. sites Recorded their Coldest-Ever October Temperatures last month - Electroverse

According to official NOAA data, more than twelve-hundred monthly low temperature records fell ACROSS the U.S. in October 2019 — multiple Arctic air masses rode anomalously-far south on the back of a wavy jet stream flow, itself associated with historically low solar activity.

The sun is currently in its deepest solar minimum of the past 100+ years, and the jet stream has weakened as a result; its usual tight ‘zonal’ flow has more-often-than-not reverted to a loose ‘meridional’ one. This wavy flow has diverted brutal Arctic air into the lower-latitudes, and is responsible for the U.S. either busting or tying a staggering 1204 all-time MONTHLY low temperature records in October 2019 (double the number of new heat records).

Now this is why the cooling is important... night time temps are dropping globally.

It's that time of year again, when rightwing nitwits exhibit their ignorance and lack of understanding the difference between climate and weather.

the irony

 

[jc456]

So I'm laughing.....top story over on DRUDGE right now!!

Weather forecast: Arctic blast next week to hit Midwest, East, South

Only the AGW k00ks think the public wont notice and be more concerned with 0.2 degrees the scientists are talking about!

January temps the second week of November

 

[ReinyDays]

January temps the second week of November

Lucky you ... we've been seeing temps at ten year lows for any time of year ... I'd be happy to have January temps right now ... yeesh ...

 

[jc456]

January temps the second week of November

Lucky you ... we've been seeing temps at ten year lows for any time of year ... I'd be happy to have January temps right now ... yeesh ...

Chicago is Siberia, not sure you can beat that.

 

[ReinyDays]

Chicago is Siberia, not sure you can beat that.

One winter in Iowa ... never again, never again ... we go years between freezing temperatures here in Jefferson ... just insanity to live where temps fall into the teens, just insane ...

 

[jc456]

Chicago is Siberia, not sure you can beat that.

One winter in Iowa ... never again, never again ... we go years between freezing temperatures here in Jefferson ... just insanity to live where temps fall into the teens, just insane ...

I can't disagree. living in sub zero weather for more than one month a year isn't ideal. It is where I live. I adjust. I continuously laugh my nuts off when people say climate changed. Well, I've lived in Chicago for 40+ years and here we are in November and it's cold like it has been cold in the previous 40 years. Not every year, but many years and now again in 2019, and snow in October. come and talk to me when I don't have to winterize my cottage in November, then maybe I'll believe in a climate change.

 

[SSDD]

and yet again, no evidence qualifies....

imagine that!

~S~

Which evidence are you talking about...Which post? So far, I haven't seen anything that looks like actual evidence to support any of the warmest claims...Which post? It is always interesting to see what passes for evidence in the minds of cultists...

 

[SSDD]

A staggering 1,204 U.S. sites Recorded their Coldest-Ever October Temperatures last month - Electroverse

According to official NOAA data, more than twelve-hundred monthly low temperature records fell ACROSS the U.S. in October 2019 — multiple Arctic air masses rode anomalously-far south on the back of a wavy jet stream flow, itself associated with historically low solar activity.

The sun is currently in its deepest solar minimum of the past 100+ years, and the jet stream has weakened as a result; its usual tight ‘zonal’ flow has more-often-than-not reverted to a loose ‘meridional’ one. This wavy flow has diverted brutal Arctic air into the lower-latitudes, and is responsible for the U.S. either busting or tying a staggering 1204 all-time MONTHLY low temperature records in October 2019 (double the number of new heat records).

Now this is why the cooling is important... night time temps are dropping globally.

It's that time of year again, when rightwing nitwits exhibit their ignorance and lack of understanding the difference between climate and weather.

We understand fully that to you cultists...if it is cold, it is weather...never mind how cold, or how early that cold arrives, or how late that cold remains...but any unseasonably warm day qualifies as climate...

 

[Billy_Bob]

140 US western cities break coldest ever daily records... smashed last night...

Current temp -10.3 deg F at 0615MST Casper, WY Last record low temp was -4 Deg F set in 1942.

Records are being smashed all over the US and not just by 1 or a partial degree but 5-10 degrees..

 

[Billy_Bob]

All Modeling fails inside 36 hours... (+2 STD).. and most fail inside 12 hours. I use 5 different models in my work and they can not predict anything accurately outside 12 hours.

Which models are you using and what computer are you running them on ... [giggle] ... a WinTel box ... or have you stacked a few hundred MiniMacs? ... what unit volume and iteration? ...

Too Funny; Keep giggling moron...

I can operate any model or program such as MODTRAN (which runs most models built in colleges today), Windows based modeling (Microsoft) among many others.

Currently using a 500 terabyte UNIX server stack and a 5Tb dedicated fiber connection to NOAA's computer in Cheyenne, Wy. I can operate any model they have or use, along with real time access to satellite and USCRN and HCN data.