CDZ Zoophilia and Necrophilia

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    Humanity has a long history of respecting and sanctifying the dead.

    Back in the day, robbing a grave would of incurred more stigma than killing a man. Imagine the outrage if someone had sex with a corpse.

    I wonder about this.

    I find bestiality to be incredibly strange and off putting, but I believe there might be legitimacy to the argument that a human and animal can consent, considering you have different species in nature screwing each other.
     
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    In order to animals to consent, they must have an understanding of human ethics and culture and consequences for behavior - be capable of understanding what they are consenting to. If we gain their "consent" by the use of hormones or physical actions - it is not concent but a form of coercion. Animals can't consent for the same reason children can't. Humans are alway in a position of authority with domestic animals, thus we have a responsibility to them - it would be an abuse of that sexually abuse them.

    Different species might screw in nature but it's infrequent. Most animal species screw for procreation. A small number of species - social species that include humans - use sex or sexual play for social bonding/stress reduction.
     
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    Position of authority? So the fact that all sex psychology is based on the simple concept of dominant and submissive means nothing to you?

    There is a deeper primal complex going on when we have have sex. That is why there is a distinguishable difference between an orgasm and forced ejaculation.
     
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    Has nothing to do with dominant/submissive.
     
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    Is that attributing a quote to me I did not make?
     
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    That is the obvious implication of position of authority.
     
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    It is a bug that happens when you reply and minimize a quote

    Interestingly it only occurs when you do it to someone that was not quoting someone else.

    I fixed it though
     
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    From my perspective, dominance and submission have particular meanings in animal behavior.

    When I think of human sexuality - it goes beyond physical responses, into the the realm of ethics. Authority is also "responsibility for" - if you are in a position of authority with children for example - a parent, a teacher, etc - you have a responsibility to keep them safe, and to not take advantage of them. It's the same way with animals.
     
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    Okay, let me explain why your argument is confusing.

    You are claiming that an animal cannot consent because human beings have an ethical duty to protect animals (reference end quote). The definition of consent is to give permission.

    If an animal were capable of giving permission, then how could they be violated or taken advantage of?

    If you were to argue that animals did not have the mental capacity to consent to a human, then that would make for a better case. For example, modern society does not view human beings as being mentally capable of giving consent until they are ages 14-18, depending on where you live.
     
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    Necrophilia is everywhere and nationally encouraged on TV. They call it the zombi movies.

    Specifically American too.

    Everyone else hates it.
     

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