Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks And Hispanics

[Harpy Eagle]

Zogby!

How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll?


“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”


The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

Here's a much better poll for you:

PredictIt

More like gambling odds than a poll.

Of course. But look at how surprisingly accurate most of them were:

PredictIt

The bigger question is were they accurate 6 months or 12 months out. Even the polls that you all hate so very much, right before the elections had Hillary winning the popular vote by 3.2%, which was not far off from the actual count.

The biggest problem with all of this is none of them can predict future events.

Polls are just a snapshot in time, you cannot look at a poll from 6 months prior to an event and say it was wrong, for it could have been right on that day. That is what most people do not understand about polls, they are only accurate for the day(s) they were taken. They hold no predictive power.

So tell me this: Just how accurate were all those polls that six months prior to the 2016 election, were claiming Hillary was our next President?

Did you not read what I just posted? You cannot say how accurate they were unless the election were held that very day. That is the problem with polls, they, as I said, hold no predictive power.

Did the people that answered those polls 6 months out know that Hillary was going to quit campaign in August and just assume she would win?

Did they know that the FBI would publicly reopen an investigation in the last month of the election.

 

[LeftofLeft]

No wonder the Democrat POS candidates are banging the drum on America being such a racist oppressive country.

 

[Terri4Trump]

So tell me this: Just how accurate were all those polls that six months prior to the 2016 election, were claiming Hillary was our next President?
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Dude, you know you can't reason with GG or expect an intelligent answer.

I just posted a great piece about Trump from freaking Univision! Now that is a sign for sure.
>> http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-hispanic-community-has-made-historic-gains-during-the-trump-administration.778159

 

[Terri4Trump]

No wonder the Democrat POS candidates are banging the drum on America being such a racist oppressive country.

You are catching on. They always use fear, from their invention of the KKK in the 1800's to their howls of Racism today. Fear is their tool of choice.

 

[JGalt]

Here's a much better poll for you:

PredictIt

More like gambling odds than a poll.

Of course. But look at how surprisingly accurate most of them were:

PredictIt

The bigger question is were they accurate 6 months or 12 months out. Even the polls that you all hate so very much, right before the elections had Hillary winning the popular vote by 3.2%, which was not far off from the actual count.

The biggest problem with all of this is none of them can predict future events.

Polls are just a snapshot in time, you cannot look at a poll from 6 months prior to an event and say it was wrong, for it could have been right on that day. That is what most people do not understand about polls, they are only accurate for the day(s) they were taken. They hold no predictive power.

So tell me this: Just how accurate were all those polls that six months prior to the 2016 election, were claiming Hillary was our next President?

Did you not read what I just posted? You cannot say how accurate they were unless the election were held that very day. That is the problem with polls, they, as I said, hold no predictive power.

Did the people that answered those polls 6 months out know that Hillary was going to quit campaign in August and just assume she would win?

Did they know that the FBI would publicly reopen an investigation in the last month of the election.

As usual, you're missing the big picture. Unless Trump rounds up all of the blacks and Hispanics, and send them to a work camp, his approval among them is going to steadily increase. And that is not going to happen: Trump isn't the "racist" you leftards seem to think he is.

What will get him votes among those minorities are results. And through the entire history of the party, the Democrats have done nothing but feed minority voters a steady stream of empty or broken promises, and the continuation of slavery through policies which have created nothing more than poverty, ignorance, and racism.

 

[Terri4Trump]

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[Harpy Eagle]

As usual, you're missing the big picture. Unless Trump rounds up all of the blacks and Hispanics, and send them to a work camp, his approval among them is going to steadily increase. And that is not going to happen: Trump isn't the "racist" you leftards seem to think he is.

What will get him votes among those minorities are results. And through the entire history of the party, the Democrats have done nothing but feed minority voters a steady stream of empty or broken promises, and the continuation of slavery through policies which have created nothing more than poverty, ignorance, and racism.

So, know that you are out of talking points about polls, you wish to change the topic. Great, I can go along with that.

It remains to be seen if Trump picks up black votes. I do not think a lot of people have moved to the Trump camp, there is no evidence of any surge in the number of supporters.

If he does gain some black voters, are they enough to make a difference and are they in the right states?

Picking up black votes in already red states is meaningless, is he gaining minority votes in the 5 or 6 states that will decide the election, that is the question.

We are also 14 months away from the election, any prediction made now is meaningless as none of us knows what might happen in the time between now and then.

 

[bodecea]

Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks And Hispanics.
Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks and Hispanics.

“Race also played a factor in Trump’s job approval rating. Hispanics, this time around, were much more likely to approve of his job performance (49% approve/51% disapprove), while the president also saw his numbers jump with African Americans. This was his second straight poll with over a quarter support from African Americans (28% approve/70% disapprove). If Trump wins half of Hispanics and a quarter of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be in trouble!”

ME: As I have said before, if Trump wins good numbers of Hispanics and 20% of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be toast! Now you know why the Left is throwing the race card.

Of course.

 

[bodecea]

Zogby!

How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll?


“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”


The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

TRIGGERED!? Lol
We can argue sources all day.. but you can never argue the substance or reality..

TDS much?

 

[Jitss617]

Zogby!

How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll?


“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”


The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

TRIGGERED!? Lol
We can argue sources all day.. but you can never argue the substance or reality..

TDS much?

Hey did you manage to move on from last week

 

[Terri4Trump]

Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks And Hispanics.
Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks and Hispanics.

“Race also played a factor in Trump’s job approval rating. Hispanics, this time around, were much more likely to approve of his job performance (49% approve/51% disapprove), while the president also saw his numbers jump with African Americans. This was his second straight poll with over a quarter support from African Americans (28% approve/70% disapprove). If Trump wins half of Hispanics and a quarter of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be in trouble!”

ME: As I have said before, if Trump wins good numbers of Hispanics and 20% of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be toast! Now you know why the Left is throwing the race card.

Of course.

It does not stand alone as the only poll.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Hey did you manage to move on from last week

North Carolina baby, with a big black population I might add

 

[Terri4Trump]

So, know that you are out of talking points about polls, you wish to change the topic. Great, I can go along with that.

Go along with it somewhere else. You don't change my topic bub.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks And Hispanics.
Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks and Hispanics.

“Race also played a factor in Trump’s job approval rating. Hispanics, this time around, were much more likely to approve of his job performance (49% approve/51% disapprove), while the president also saw his numbers jump with African Americans. This was his second straight poll with over a quarter support from African Americans (28% approve/70% disapprove). If Trump wins half of Hispanics and a quarter of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be in trouble!”

ME: As I have said before, if Trump wins good numbers of Hispanics and 20% of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be toast! Now you know why the Left is throwing the race card.

I just found a stat from 2016: According to Pew, 14 percent of black male voters and almost no black female voters cast ballots for Donald Trump in 2016. If the Pew poll is correct, then this is the stat to compare the next election to and see how much he improved

 

[Jitss617]

Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks And Hispanics.
Zogby Poll Has Trump Gaining Support Among Blacks and Hispanics.

“Race also played a factor in Trump’s job approval rating. Hispanics, this time around, were much more likely to approve of his job performance (49% approve/51% disapprove), while the president also saw his numbers jump with African Americans. This was his second straight poll with over a quarter support from African Americans (28% approve/70% disapprove). If Trump wins half of Hispanics and a quarter of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be in trouble!”

ME: As I have said before, if Trump wins good numbers of Hispanics and 20% of African Americans in 2020, Democrats will be toast! Now you know why the Left is throwing the race card.

I just found a stat from 2016: According to Pew, 14 percent of black male voters and almost no black female voters cast ballots for Donald Trump in 2016. If the Pew poll is correct, then this is the stat to compare the next election to and see how much he improved

2 of the most popular and powerful woman in politics are diamond and silk.. they def voted for trump.

 

[Terri4Trump]

2 of the most popular and powerful woman in politics are diamond and silk.. they def voted for trump.

Yep, and I know others too. But statistically out of millions of voters, "almost" no black women voted for him. What "almost" means, I do not know

 

[Terri4Trump]

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[Wry Catcher]

Another insane circle jerk populated by biddable fools echoing the same old bullshit.

Attacks on Democrats are built on fear, hate and ignorance. Fear dominates, since they know but will never admit Trump is not liked by most American's - both on the left and the right - and his administration is the most inept and corrupt in history (include in that Teapot Dome & Waterrgate).

 

[Harpy Eagle]

2 of the most popular and powerful woman in politics are diamond and silk.. they def voted for trump.

Yep, and I know others too. But statistically out of millions of voters, "almost" no black women voted for him. What "almost" means, I do not know

It means nothing statistically, it is a word thrown out there for rubes like you that have no knowledge of statistics.

 

[Terri4Trump]

...... Attacks on Democrats are built on fear, hate and ignorance..........

You are a 100% LIAR.

We know Democrats policies, they are evil, and we stand against them:

Socialism, Murder by Abortion, Homosexual and Transgender Perversion, Free stuff for Illegals, Raising Taxes, taking away Guns..... ....those are all openly stated and supported by Democrats, they are anti-American and must be stopped.

Pull your stupid head out of your fascist ass.