Zionism as a Political Movement

[holston]

I wasn't quite sure what to call this thread but I think the title is close enough to the point that you should get the picture as soon as the Hasbarats begin slinging doo.


Question:

What is the end goal of Zionism?


Since Zionism is directly linked to Judaism, let's take a look at what the end goal of Judaism is.

Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah

The Messianic Idea in Judaism

Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism. It is part of Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith, the minimum requirements of Jewish belief. In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of the elements of the coming of the mashiach: ingathering of the exiles; restoration of the religious courts of justice; an end of wickedness, sin and heresy; reward to the righteous; rebuilding of Jerusalem; restoration of the line of King David; and restoration of Temple service.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought.

The Mashiach

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5).

He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

What Will the Mashiach Do?

Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)

The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).

There you have it. Zionism in a nut shell.

This appears to mean that the coming of the "Messiah" (as gentiles called Christ) is actually a system of global rule which shall be established with Jerusalem as it's headquarters.

Other Jewish sources use the term "Messiah" figuratively to mean the Global governing body of Jewish plutocrats who will tell everyone else what they can and can not do.

You have to take care when discussing these matters with Zionists and Jews. The interpretations they give to the Old Testament are the interpretations which the Rabbis give it. Those interpretations are nothing less than Jewish Supremacist.

Don't depend on them to make this clear to you. Their intention is not to.

Although they lead their Zio-JUDEO-xtian benefactors to believe that they believe and adhere to the Old Testament, only a very few do.

The vast majority put the teachings of the Talmud above those of the the Old Testament ordinances.

Those who are familiar with the laws and ordinances of the Old Testament are may be able to imagine how the Rabbis will interpret them.

Those who shy away from mentioning theses things should seriously consider, that by lending support to the "politically correct" endeavours of the Zionist Party USA, they are hastening the time when all non-Jews will be ruled under the Noahide Law. This is the same law which Bush Senior officially endorsed when he signed
Public Law 102-14 -
102d CONGRESS, 1st Session -
H. J. RES. 104 -
JOINT RESOLUTION




It's official: U.S. to execute Christians


Jewish banksters madoff with half the Russian economy.

With a global currency they can control the economy of the world, ie RULE THE WORLD.

Look at the goals of communism. The methods and objectives they use towards achieving the goal of global domination are the same, except that in the end, the proletariat will be the goyim who serve the Jewish oligarchy headed by a Talmudic polit bureau.


If you think that this idea is too far fetched to believe (and the Hasbarats WILL call you paranoid or Nazi for saying so) then consider the attitude that many blacks in the US have towards the white population.

Ask yourself honestly if the blacks would not relish the opportunity to "get revenge" on whites for all the atrocities they have been taught were perpetrated on them.

Put yourself in their place.


Now do the same for the Jews.

How often do you hear about the Holocaust?

How much contempt do you think these "Jews" harbor within them towards the groups whom they consider responsible for the ills of the world?


Now think of the venomous responses and accusations which you can see with your own eyes aimed at anyone who criticizes Jewish political and social activism in the US or criticism of Israeli policies.


Have a frank and honest discussion with yourself whether you want to wait until these people gain full authority over you.

If you have the least reservation about how you well you will take to being given orders by them, and of being relegated to last class citizenship, then think about how the Israelis have dealt with the Palestinians and ask yourself whether the Jews in the US will treat you any better, especially the ones who orchestrated 9/11 so that THEIR KINGDOM may come.

Neither Christ nor His teachings are in their play book, Jews for Jesus notwithstanding.

So you may as well get that idea out of your head.

 

[S.J.]

The dead giveaway to an anti-semitic thread is the use of the word "Zionist".

 

[auditor0007]

I think the best forum for this thread is most likely under "Conspiracy Theories". The nutters will be welcoming you in droves.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The dead giveaway to an anti-semitic thread is the use of the word "Zionist".

And carefully getting its definition wrong, in a way that denigrates it.

So, I gather that holston is the resident Jew-hating bigot and con artist? Or one of them? (How many are there here?)

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Since Zionism is directly linked to Judaism

No, Zionism is the OPPOSITE of Judaism. However, the Zionist media would have you think otherwise with their propoganda. This will shock you, but most Jews are solemnly opposed to Zionism.

I am Jewish, and I opposite Zionism, as has my entire family.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLJY-x1ssc]Jews Against Zionism - YouTube[/ame]

However, I know what you intentions are. You made this thread alongside my thread about the Federal Reserve, so the Anti-Semitic insinuations would carry over to my thread.

If that wasn't your intention, than you are a bigot.

The Federal Reserve if your enemy, not the Jews, it just happens to be (by coincidence) that the largest share holder (Rothschild) is Jewish.

 

[holston]

The dead giveaway to an anti-semitic thread is the use of the word "Zionist".

And carefully getting its definition wrong, in a way that denigrates it.

So, I gather that holston is the resident Jew-hating bigot and con artist? Or one of them? (How many are there here?)

Well then, let's look at the polite definition of it.

Zionism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות*, Tsiyonut) is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in the territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.[1] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.

In a less common usage, the term may also refer to non-political, cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am; and political support for the State of Israel by non-Jews, as in Christian Zionism.

Critics of Zionism say it is a colonialist or racist ideology, specifically of consisting of settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing of a land that was in fact inhabited by the Palestinian people.

Therefore reasons for opposing Zionism encompass opposition to Israeli illegal occupation and settlements in Palestinian territory, land confiscation, expulsions and violence against Palestinians.

However, critics of anti-Zionism have argued that opposition to Zionism can be a form of antisemitism and can be used as an excuse to express viewpoints that would otherwise be condemned as antisemitic.

Zionism does not have a uniform ideology, but has evolved in a dialogue among a plethora of ideologies: General Zionism, Religious Zionism, Labor Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, Green Zionism, etc.

Thus, Zionism encompasses all of these areas. It therefore owes it's existence to Jewish theology the goals of which are clearly stated above in their own words.


So who's the "nutter", THEM for wanting to rule the world, or ME for reporting to you what they have said themselves?

All those who work and wait for the "coming of the Messiah" share the common desire of megalomaniacs to rule it.

If they so much as confer with one another towards ends of bringing this about, then you might even call this a "conspiracy".

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Report this bigoted lump.
(and read post 5)

 

[holston]

cont.

The multi-national, worldwide Zionist movement is structured on representative democratic principles. Congresses are held every four years (they were held every two years before the Second World War) and delegates to the congress are elected by the membership. Members are required to pay dues known as a shekel. At the congress, delegates elect a 30-man executive council, which in turn elects the movement's leader. The movement was democratic from its inception and women had the right to vote.

Until 1917, the World Zionist Organization pursued a strategy of building a Jewish National Home through persistent small-scale immigration and the founding of such bodies as the Jewish National Fund (1901 — a charity that bought land for Jewish settlement) and the Anglo-Palestine Bank (1903 — provided loans for Jewish businesses and farmers). In 1942, at the Biltmore Conference, the movement included for the first time an express objective of the establishment of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel.

 

[holston]

Report this bigoted lump.
(and read post 5)

What?

You say you are a bigoted lump?


http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacism

Jewish supremacism is the belief, and promotion of the belief, that the Jews are superior to all others and should rightfully have control over non-Jews in all matters. The religion of Talmudic Judaism itself claims that the Jews are a race "chosen" by God ahead of the rest of humanity. Jewish supremacists believe that they are morally, intellectually, religuously and genetically superior. The purpose of this belief is to have an excuse to commit crimes such as the black slave trade, the Red Holocaust and Zionism. These crimes are used to establish social, political, historical and/or industrial dominance by Jews.

Jewish supremacy, as with supremacism in general, is rooted in ethnocentrism and a desire for hegemony and power, and has frequently resulted in violence against non-Jews. Different forms of Jewish supremacy have different conceptions of who is considered Jew, and not all Jewish supremacist organizations agree on who is their greatest enemy.

Jewish supremacy distinguishes itself from other forms of supremacy, as Jewish supremacist groups can be found in all countries with a Jewish minority or majority population, whereas this cannot be said of other forms of supremacy: for example not all, countries with a black minority also have black supremacist groups. Unfortunately, in most countries even militant Jewish supremacist organizations are not watched closely by law enforcement officials, but instead often subsidized by the governments under influence of the zionist lobby.

Why do you Jews hate white men (Goyim) so much?