Yes, Thousands of Americans Have Been Killed by Illegal Aliens

Take a census of the prison population. How many illegals are in our prisons for murder.
How many citizens are in our prisons for murder?
From what I have read 25% of those in U.S prisons are illegals. We never expected those like you to care. But if you did care, you would probably petition to have half of them released and sent to sanctuary cities.
Perhaps you could share what you read with us, we'll make up our own minds.


As if Democrats care about facts. We already know they don't. Proven when Nancy Pelosi told Nielson "I don't accept your facts"

But, just in case, here are the stats. FULLY 26% of all federal inmates are illegal aliens. From the DOJ itself

DOJ: 26% of Federal Prisoners Are Aliens

Accept their wages and working conditions so your economic system doesn't need them to float the illusion of capitalism on. Simple.


Oh I see, you ask for a fact, then when that fact is proven instead of being a man and saying "wow I was wrong " you post some utterly ridiculous nonsense that has nothing to do with the post you quoted.
 
Take a census of the prison population. How many illegals are in our prisons for murder.
How many citizens are in our prisons for murder?

Dude even you recognize the difference between dealing with citizens who commit murder and having to deal with people who shouldn't 'even be here committing murder.

Well, maybe not, maybe I'm mistaken and dishonesty isn't your problem, stupidity is.
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/2017568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low/12/05/


The Election Circus Begins


"It is January 2019. This signals the start of the 2020 election circus. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is the first big-name Democrat on stage. But we will soon be deluged with candidates, bizarre antics and endless commentary by fatuous TV and radio pundits. The hyperventilating, the constant polling, the updates on who has the largest campaign war chest, the hypothetical matches between this hopeful and that hopeful, the mocking tweets by Donald Trump, will, as we saw in the 2016 election campaign, have as much relevance to our lives and political future as the speculation on cable sports channels about next year’s football season. This farce takes the place of genuine political life.

It costs a lot of money to mount this spectacle. Our corporate masters, like the oligarchic rulers of ancient Rome who poured money into the arena as they stripped the empire and its citizens of their assets, are happy to oblige. The campaign sustains the fiction of a democracy and gives legitimacy to the corporate state. Maybe Hillary Clinton, who raised $1 billion in her 2016 run for president, will return for another season, although the Bill and Hillary tour is now a debacle with empty seats and slashed ticket prices. Maybe Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will make comebacks. And what about the new faces in the scramble for the presidency—Beto O’Rourke, former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and the billionaires Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg?

It is a political version of the reality television show “Survivor.” Who will be the first knocked out? Who will make it into the semifinals and the finals? Who is the most devious and cunning? Who will come out on top? We get to vote for the contestants that appeal to us most, or at least vote against those we hate the most. The cable news shows, in a prelude to the nonstop idiocy to come, have spent the last few days speculating about whom Mitt Romney will endorse in the 2020 race. Now, there’s a burning question of national importance.

To take power in 2021 in lieu of any real policy changes, the Democratic Party is banking on the deep animus toward President Trump. It has no intention of instituting genuine populist programs, rebuilding unions, funding universal health care, providing free college tuition or curbing the criminal activities of the corporations and the big banks. The war machine will continue to wage endless war and consume half of all discretionary spending. The vaunted new populist members of Congress will be no more than window dressing, trotted out, like Sanders, to trick voters into thinking the Democratic Party is capable of reform. Most voters, for this reason, are “voting out of loathing, against enemies and against the system in general, not really for anybody,” as journalist Matt Taibbi points out.

Working men and women especially despise the slick-talking politicians—including the Clintons and Barack Obama—and the “experts” and well-groomed pundits on their screens who sold them the con that deindustrialization, deregulation, austerity, bailing out the banks, nearly two decades of constant war, the exporting of jobs overseas, tax cuts for the rich and the impoverishment of the working class were forms of progress. Trump hangs on to the support of white working Americans because he expresses through his adolescent insults and dynamiting of political norms the legitimate hatred they feel toward the well-heeled, college-educated ruling elites who sold them out. The Democrats, at the same time, understand that it takes someone as revolting as Trump to fire up their lethargic base, a group in which millions do not vote. They cling to a tactic of “anybody but Trump” even though it did not work in 2016.

The corporate media ignores issues and policies, since there is little genuine disagreement among the candidates, and presents the race as a beauty contest. The fundamental question the press asks is not what do the candidates stand for but whom do the voters like. As for now, Warren—the only nationally known Democrat except Julian Castro to form an exploratory committee for a presidential bid—is not winning this popularity contest. A CNN/Des Moines Register Iowa poll—yes, polling in Iowa already has begun—puts her fourth, with only 8 percent of support among the Democrats surveyed, behind Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Beto O’Rourke.

Our corporate rulers do not need to denounce democracy. Democratic laws, such as who can fund campaigns, have been subverted from within, their original purposes redefined by the courts and legislative bodies to serve corporate power. This managed democracy has transformed elections from the simple, straightforward process of voting for a party platform or party positions to vast, choreographed theatrical productions. Politicians run on “moral” issues and use public relations experts to create manufactured personalities. Trump, his image constructed by a reality television show, proved more adept than his rivals at playing this game the last time around.

Politicians must stick to the script. They have well-defined roles. They express a suffocating, reality-defying positivism about the future of America. They are steadfast in their obsequious praise of the nation’s “heroes” in the military and law enforcement. They are silent about the crimes of empire. They ignore the plight of the poor; indeed the word “poor” is banished from their vocabulary. They pretend we do not live in a corporate oligarchy, although they acknowledge amorphous attacks on the middle class and promise to stem the assault. They exude a cloying feel-your-pain compassion that revolves around personal stories of the hardships they overcame in their own lives to become “successes”—the most ludicrous being Trump’s claimthat he turned a “very small” loan from his father into a multibillion-dollar real estate empire. They telegraph to us that they are one of us. We can be like them. They trot out their wives, husbands and children, even when a spouse like Melania Trump looks as if she has been taken hostage, to portray themselves as family men and women. They claim they are outsiders, ignoring their long political careers and their status as members of the wealthy ruling elite. They are no different from the array of self-help gurus who ignore systemic injustice and social decay to peddle schemes for personal success. The formula is universal. It is the triumph of artifice, what Benjamin DeMott called “junk politics.”

Those who do not play this game, like Ralph Nader, or who like Sanders play it begrudgingly—Sanders refused corporate money, has called for reforming “the bloated and wasteful $716 billion annual Pentagon budget” and addresses issues of class—are ridiculed and marginalized by a monochromatic corporate media that banishes qualification, ambiguity, nuance and genuine dialogue. Trump’s success as a candidate came, in large part, because of the constant media attention he received. Those like Sanders who attempt to defy the rules of the game are punished. The goal is entertainment. Politicians who are good entertainers do well. The poor entertainers do badly. The networks seek to attract viewers and increase profits, not disseminate information about political issues. Voters have little or no say in who decides to run, who gets funded, how campaigns are managed, what television ads say, which candidates get covered by the press or who gets invited to presidential debates. They are spectators, pawns used to legitimize political farce."

The Election Circus Begins

I don't give a crap about your one year old Trump bashing article
If you had learned to read you would know it's not torching Don. But the power structure knows americans won't read, but will hide in the grand american dream. All the system needs to do is continue with spectacle and illusion as we the people beg to be walled in.


Another nonsensical retort from you.
 
How many citizens are in our prisons for murder?
From what I have read 25% of those in U.S prisons are illegals. We never expected those like you to care. But if you did care, you would probably petition to have half of them released and sent to sanctuary cities.
Perhaps you could share what you read with us, we'll make up our own minds.


As if Democrats care about facts. We already know they don't. Proven when Nancy Pelosi told Nielson "I don't accept your facts"

But, just in case, here are the stats. FULLY 26% of all federal inmates are illegal aliens. From the DOJ itself

DOJ: 26% of Federal Prisoners Are Aliens

Accept their wages and working conditions so your economic system doesn't need them to float the illusion of capitalism on. Simple.


Oh I see, you ask for a fact, then when that fact is proven instead of being a man and saying "wow I was wrong " you post some utterly ridiculous nonsense that has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

Naw, thanks for the link, I will have to read this fully before commenting on it specifically; I’m kinda funny like that.

The other comment is aimed at why your "illegals" are here in the first place. They have always been beckoned by your capitalist class, which never saw fit to wean itself off of a poor marginalized source of cheap labor it could exploit extra-legally.

So yeah, accept their (your “illegals”) wages and working conditions so your economic system doesn't need them to float the illusion of capitalism on. Simple. Do you wish to be rid of your “problem” or not?

As for this fear of "illegals" and the poor and brown, please. I'm well into my 6th decade, most if it lived here with opportunities to step outside the american psychobabble bubble. I have lived amongst americans in a dysfunctional society that eats human beings for profit. Your "illegals" do now scare me, we are on the system's menu together.

And so are you my friend.
 
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No human being is "illegal" merely for existing, or for where they may currently be standing, or walking for you caravan snowflakes, upon the planet. That nonsensical illusion comes out of a eurocentric conqueror perceptual reality. Ties back into that christiofascist concept of original sin; that there is something wrong with human beings merely for having been born at all. What a colossal mindfuck, this guilt/sin/blame charade which leaves no one with any responsibility for anything at all.

What a stupid post. Trying to use semantics because you can't refute facts. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 
No human being is "illegal" merely for existing, or for where they may currently be standing, or walking for you caravan snowflakes, upon the planet. That nonsensical illusion comes out of a eurocentric conqueror perceptual reality. Ties back into that christiofascist concept of original sin; that there is something wrong with human beings merely for having been born at all. What a colossal mindfuck, this guilt/sin/blame charade which leaves no one with any responsibility for anything at all.

What a stupid post. Trying to use semantics because you can't refute facts. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Would like to see that poster test that theory in dozens of other nations and claim their right to exist.
 
How many citizens are in our prisons for murder?

Dude even you recognize the difference between dealing with citizens who commit murder and having to deal with people who shouldn't 'even be here committing murder.

Well, maybe not, maybe I'm mistaken and dishonesty isn't your problem, stupidity is.
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/2017568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low/12/05/


The Election Circus Begins


"It is January 2019. This signals the start of the 2020 election circus. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is the first big-name Democrat on stage. But we will soon be deluged with candidates, bizarre antics and endless commentary by fatuous TV and radio pundits. The hyperventilating, the constant polling, the updates on who has the largest campaign war chest, the hypothetical matches between this hopeful and that hopeful, the mocking tweets by Donald Trump, will, as we saw in the 2016 election campaign, have as much relevance to our lives and political future as the speculation on cable sports channels about next year’s football season. This farce takes the place of genuine political life.

It costs a lot of money to mount this spectacle. Our corporate masters, like the oligarchic rulers of ancient Rome who poured money into the arena as they stripped the empire and its citizens of their assets, are happy to oblige. The campaign sustains the fiction of a democracy and gives legitimacy to the corporate state. Maybe Hillary Clinton, who raised $1 billion in her 2016 run for president, will return for another season, although the Bill and Hillary tour is now a debacle with empty seats and slashed ticket prices. Maybe Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will make comebacks. And what about the new faces in the scramble for the presidency—Beto O’Rourke, former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and the billionaires Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg?

It is a political version of the reality television show “Survivor.” Who will be the first knocked out? Who will make it into the semifinals and the finals? Who is the most devious and cunning? Who will come out on top? We get to vote for the contestants that appeal to us most, or at least vote against those we hate the most. The cable news shows, in a prelude to the nonstop idiocy to come, have spent the last few days speculating about whom Mitt Romney will endorse in the 2020 race. Now, there’s a burning question of national importance.

To take power in 2021 in lieu of any real policy changes, the Democratic Party is banking on the deep animus toward President Trump. It has no intention of instituting genuine populist programs, rebuilding unions, funding universal health care, providing free college tuition or curbing the criminal activities of the corporations and the big banks. The war machine will continue to wage endless war and consume half of all discretionary spending. The vaunted new populist members of Congress will be no more than window dressing, trotted out, like Sanders, to trick voters into thinking the Democratic Party is capable of reform. Most voters, for this reason, are “voting out of loathing, against enemies and against the system in general, not really for anybody,” as journalist Matt Taibbi points out.

Working men and women especially despise the slick-talking politicians—including the Clintons and Barack Obama—and the “experts” and well-groomed pundits on their screens who sold them the con that deindustrialization, deregulation, austerity, bailing out the banks, nearly two decades of constant war, the exporting of jobs overseas, tax cuts for the rich and the impoverishment of the working class were forms of progress. Trump hangs on to the support of white working Americans because he expresses through his adolescent insults and dynamiting of political norms the legitimate hatred they feel toward the well-heeled, college-educated ruling elites who sold them out. The Democrats, at the same time, understand that it takes someone as revolting as Trump to fire up their lethargic base, a group in which millions do not vote. They cling to a tactic of “anybody but Trump” even though it did not work in 2016.

The corporate media ignores issues and policies, since there is little genuine disagreement among the candidates, and presents the race as a beauty contest. The fundamental question the press asks is not what do the candidates stand for but whom do the voters like. As for now, Warren—the only nationally known Democrat except Julian Castro to form an exploratory committee for a presidential bid—is not winning this popularity contest. A CNN/Des Moines Register Iowa poll—yes, polling in Iowa already has begun—puts her fourth, with only 8 percent of support among the Democrats surveyed, behind Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Beto O’Rourke.

Our corporate rulers do not need to denounce democracy. Democratic laws, such as who can fund campaigns, have been subverted from within, their original purposes redefined by the courts and legislative bodies to serve corporate power. This managed democracy has transformed elections from the simple, straightforward process of voting for a party platform or party positions to vast, choreographed theatrical productions. Politicians run on “moral” issues and use public relations experts to create manufactured personalities. Trump, his image constructed by a reality television show, proved more adept than his rivals at playing this game the last time around.

Politicians must stick to the script. They have well-defined roles. They express a suffocating, reality-defying positivism about the future of America. They are steadfast in their obsequious praise of the nation’s “heroes” in the military and law enforcement. They are silent about the crimes of empire. They ignore the plight of the poor; indeed the word “poor” is banished from their vocabulary. They pretend we do not live in a corporate oligarchy, although they acknowledge amorphous attacks on the middle class and promise to stem the assault. They exude a cloying feel-your-pain compassion that revolves around personal stories of the hardships they overcame in their own lives to become “successes”—the most ludicrous being Trump’s claimthat he turned a “very small” loan from his father into a multibillion-dollar real estate empire. They telegraph to us that they are one of us. We can be like them. They trot out their wives, husbands and children, even when a spouse like Melania Trump looks as if she has been taken hostage, to portray themselves as family men and women. They claim they are outsiders, ignoring their long political careers and their status as members of the wealthy ruling elite. They are no different from the array of self-help gurus who ignore systemic injustice and social decay to peddle schemes for personal success. The formula is universal. It is the triumph of artifice, what Benjamin DeMott called “junk politics.”

Those who do not play this game, like Ralph Nader, or who like Sanders play it begrudgingly—Sanders refused corporate money, has called for reforming “the bloated and wasteful $716 billion annual Pentagon budget” and addresses issues of class—are ridiculed and marginalized by a monochromatic corporate media that banishes qualification, ambiguity, nuance and genuine dialogue. Trump’s success as a candidate came, in large part, because of the constant media attention he received. Those like Sanders who attempt to defy the rules of the game are punished. The goal is entertainment. Politicians who are good entertainers do well. The poor entertainers do badly. The networks seek to attract viewers and increase profits, not disseminate information about political issues. Voters have little or no say in who decides to run, who gets funded, how campaigns are managed, what television ads say, which candidates get covered by the press or who gets invited to presidential debates. They are spectators, pawns used to legitimize political farce."

The Election Circus Begins

I don't give a crap about your one year old Trump bashing article
If you had learned to read you would know it's not torching Don. But the power structure knows americans won't read, but will hide in the grand american dream. All the system needs to do is continue with spectacle and illusion as we the people beg to be walled in.


Another nonsensical retort from you.
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/2017568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low/12/05/

Be very afraid, the power structure is counting on you.
 
No human being is "illegal" merely for existing, or for where they may currently be standing, or walking for you caravan snowflakes, upon the planet. That nonsensical illusion comes out of a eurocentric conqueror perceptual reality. Ties back into that christiofascist concept of original sin; that there is something wrong with human beings merely for having been born at all. What a colossal mindfuck, this guilt/sin/blame charade which leaves no one with any responsibility for anything at all.

What a stupid post. Trying to use semantics because you can't refute facts. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Would like to see that poster test that theory in dozens of other nations and claim their right to exist.
So we're not exceptional now? We're what, average? Run of the mill?

I find it hilarious to witness the descendants of the euro slaughterers shatting themselves over the notion that they are being invaded by poor dark skinned peoples, especially since it is their own power structure who has always made damn sure "illegals" would be here as a source of labor they could abuse extra-legally.
 
Wtf does comparing illegals to citizens have to do with border crossings being down?
Its annoying when dumb people try to act smart
 
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

I'll tell you what. You acknowledge that it has been proven to you that 26% of federal inmates are illegal aliens and then yes I'll address a point of your choice in your article
 
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

I'll tell you what. You acknowledge that it has been proven to you that 26% of federal inmates are illegal aliens and then yes I'll address a point of your choice in your article
Not how it works love, was that you negotiating? Are you a great negotiator?

You posted a claim iof what you read, you were asked for what you read, and look atcha, all bowed up and shit. What's up?
 
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

I'll tell you what. You acknowledge that it has been proven to you that 26% of federal inmates are illegal aliens and then yes I'll address a point of your choice in your article
Not how it works love, was that you negotiating? Are you a great negotiator?


That was me saying if you can't even admit that you were wrong and a fact exists I've no use for you. Good day
 
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

I'll tell you what. You acknowledge that it has been proven to you that 26% of federal inmates are illegal aliens and then yes I'll address a point of your choice in your article
Not how it works love, was that you negotiating? Are you a great negotiator?


That was me saying if you can't even admit that you were wrong and a fact exists I've no use for you. Good day
So you need to be agreed with? And right away? No one said you were wrong, you indicated a source, you were asked for it, and then you went into this tantrum for having been asked? Silly.
 
Would to care to take issue with any of the points the writer addressed? Or is this it then?

I'll tell you what. You acknowledge that it has been proven to you that 26% of federal inmates are illegal aliens and then yes I'll address a point of your choice in your article
What percentage of ALL inmates are federal?
I won't play semantics with you. You've been dismissed as a dishonest child unworthy of further conversation, except to ridicule.
 
Millions of people have been killed by people over the years. Sometimes they're even illegal aliens.
 
Millions of people have been killed by people over the years. Sometimes they're even illegal aliens.

And any murderers who do so while under the authority of the government shares responsibility for their murders with that government.

I.E. Democrats that support illegal immigration are complicit in the murder of thousands of Americans, PERIOD!
 
Millions of people have been killed by people over the years. Sometimes they're even illegal aliens.

And any murderers who do so while under the authority of the government shares responsibility for their murders with that government.

I.E. Democrats that support illegal immigration are complicit in the murder of thousands of Americans, PERIOD!

Are illegals killing in greater numbers versus legals? I bet gays are killing in greater numbers. I bet whites are killing in greater numbers. We aren't banning gay white people from this country.
 
Are illegals killing in greater numbers versus legals?
That is totally IRRELEVANT as they SHOULD NOT BE HERE.

They should not be on our streets, so EVERY MURDER by an illegal or escaped prisoner is unjustified and an abysmal incompetence of the Federal government.
 

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