Wtf?

Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.

It's not that Daveman.. It's the "transgender reassignment" benefits that OldFart needs and wants. My bet is that OldFart is on Medicare by now and doesn't really GIVE a ratz ass about ripping up peoples lives and the US economy just to give him more control over whatz good for us...

After his "dick-ectomy" --- he'll be a lot more reasonable.
You hush. Obama the Great and Powerful knows all, sees all.

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No. But you do prove that the post has plenty of Xenophobes.
 
Yes. This law made by committee to keep monopolistic insurance companies profitable while foregoing all successful models of universal health care in this and other economies appears to primarily by accident stumbled upon an incredibly robust design that virtually guarantees its survival and eventual success while generating an unexpected major stimulus to the economy.

The ACA will achieve all of this because of rather than in spite of its design failures. The first step in insuring all Americans was to eliminate medical underwriting, which has been done. Insurance companies cannot exclude people that might be unhealthy. This stops the death spiral of cherry picking policyholders. Everyone thinks that to accomplish this, the ACA had to guarantee the insurance companies a pool of desirable, healthy, young Americans who would be forced by the individual mandate to buy health insurance. Everybody is bitching and moaning that if enough of these 20 somethings choose to pay the $95 penalty the insurers will go broke. Fat chance. The ACA provides a government run and backed reinsurance fund sort of like deposit insurance. Your business sites didn't talk about that did they?

Since the premium credit is means tested, it functions as an automatic stabilizer just like unemployment insurance, except that it can never run out. Wow! We just invented stealth stimulus!

There are lots more goodies like this so that every piece of bad news generally will add to the success. If the ACA ends up destroying employer and union health insurance plans, then health costs will no longer be a cost component of American unit labor costs, benefitting American business. And all those individual plans Americans can't keep? If they met the coverage standards they would still be on the market. No more $5000 deductible plans that don't cover shit. Those folks are now forced into the exchanges where they will get better coverage with premium subsidies.
Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.

It's not that Daveman.. It's the "transgender reassignment" benefits that OldFart needs and wants. My bet is that OldFart is on Medicare by now and doesn't really GIVE a ratz ass about ripping up peoples lives and the US economy just to give him more control over whatz good for us...

After his "dick-ectomy" --- he'll be a lot more reasonable.
You seem to have fetishes revolving around mens dicks. I think we get it, dipshit.

Have you ever said anything rational??? Or do you just spend your time coming up with juvinile attacks???

Really, me boy, being a homosexual, as you obviously are, is not a bad thing. No one is thinking badly of you.
 
OK let's get to the nitty gritty. If Obamacare works as advertised then the following is true:

Generic drugs and off label uses will multiply causing big Pharma to shrink.

Higher paid specialists will become lower paid generalists.

That sounds like reduced consumption and employment, how is this good?
Really??? I suspect you missed that you just pulled some ideas from your ass. Or some bat shit crazy con web sites. Same thing.
 
Every business site I regularly check has now slammed Obamacare as a POS. Being a contrarian I find this unananimity disturbing. Is there some hidden killer app in this hunk of junk bill that will aid the US?



No. The Killer App is designed to aid Big Government Authoritarianism.
 
Every business site I regularly check has now slammed Obamacare as a POS. Being a contrarian I find this unananimity disturbing. Is there some hidden killer app in this hunk of junk bill that will aid the US?

Yes. This law made by committee to keep monopolistic insurance companies profitable while foregoing all successful models of universal health care in this and other economies appears to primarily by accident stumbled upon an incredibly robust design that virtually guarantees its survival and eventual success while generating an unexpected major stimulus to the economy.

The ACA will achieve all of this because of rather than in spite of its design failures. The first step in insuring all Americans was to eliminate medical underwriting, which has been done. Insurance companies cannot exclude people that might be unhealthy. This stops the death spiral of cherry picking policyholders. Everyone thinks that to accomplish this, the ACA had to guarantee the insurance companies a pool of desirable, healthy, young Americans who would be forced by the individual mandate to buy health insurance. Everybody is bitching and moaning that if enough of these 20 somethings choose to pay the $95 penalty the insurers will go broke. Fat chance. The ACA provides a government run and backed reinsurance fund sort of like deposit insurance. Your business sites didn't talk about that did they?

Since the premium credit is means tested, it functions as an automatic stabilizer just like unemployment insurance, except that it can never run out. Wow! We just invented stealth stimulus!

There are lots more goodies like this so that every piece of bad news generally will add to the success. If the ACA ends up destroying employer and union health insurance plans, then health costs will no longer be a cost component of American unit labor costs, benefitting American business. And all those individual plans Americans can't keep? If they met the coverage standards they would still be on the market. No more $5000 deductible plans that don't cover shit. Those folks are now forced into the exchanges where they will get better coverage with premium subsidies.
Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.
Typical daveman. When he is unable to argue a point, he simply reverts to adolescent attacks. Poor guy is a congenital idiot.
Why should we expect more. Really it is not his fault. Just bad luck.
 
Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.

It's not that Daveman.. It's the "transgender reassignment" benefits that OldFart needs and wants. My bet is that OldFart is on Medicare by now and doesn't really GIVE a ratz ass about ripping up peoples lives and the US economy just to give him more control over whatz good for us...

After his "dick-ectomy" --- he'll be a lot more reasonable.
You seem to have fetishes revolving around mens dicks. I think we get it, dipshit.

Have you ever said anything rational??? Or do you just spend your time coming up with juvinile attacks???

Really, me boy, being a homosexual, as you obviously are, is not a bad thing. No one is thinking badly of you.

The fact that you think any of this is funny is wrong on ALL LEVELS.. Especially when you demean those transgender victims who until ObamaCare were facing spending their entire lives in the wrong body.. NOW -- thanks to your Dear Leader --- we ALL GET TO PAY for new bodies..

You got nothing -- do ya? Nothing here is comical... Especially when you AVOID my previous post --- because you can't debate on a RATIONAL LEVEL canya? You're a chicken-shit bomb-thrower that gets ass-kicked on threads and just dissappears..
 
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OK let's get to the nitty gritty. If Obamacare works as advertised then the following is true:

Generic drugs and off label uses will multiply causing big Pharma to shrink.

Higher paid specialists will become lower paid generalists.

That sounds like reduced consumption and employment, how is this good?
Because Obama is good and benevolent and wise.

Or so the bootlickers keep telling me.
No they don't. However, thinking people do notice you lie a lot. And notice that you continually post dogma from bat shit crazy con web sites. And notice that you post childish personal attacks.
 
It's not that Daveman.. It's the "transgender reassignment" benefits that OldFart needs and wants. My bet is that OldFart is on Medicare by now and doesn't really GIVE a ratz ass about ripping up peoples lives and the US economy just to give him more control over whatz good for us...

After his "dick-ectomy" --- he'll be a lot more reasonable.
You seem to have fetishes revolving around mens dicks. I think we get it, dipshit.

Have you ever said anything rational??? Or do you just spend your time coming up with juvinile attacks???

Really, me boy, being a homosexual, as you obviously are, is not a bad thing. No one is thinking badly of you.

The fact that you think any of this is funny is wrong on ALL LEVELS.. Especially when you demean those transgender victims who until ObamaCare were facing spending their entire lives in the wrong body.. NOW -- thanks to your Dear Leader --- we ALL GET TO PAY for new bodies..

You got nothing -- do ya? Nothing here is comical... Especially when you AVOID my previous post --- because you can't debate on a RATIONAL LEVEL canya? You're a chicken-shit bomb-thrower that gets ass-kicked on threads and just dissappears..
Yes, there is something comical. It is you, me boy. And again, it is ok that you are homosexual. Not your fault.
Did you have a specific point from the post by oldfart that you want to argue. Or are you, as I suspect, simply incapable.
 
... better judgement can be made after the dust has settled a bit.
Isn't that a bit like "we need to pass the bill to know what's in it"? I thinking that maybe we're looking at the lull before the storm and that we need to plan for when it really gets bad...

Why can't you dupes find a better lie? :eusa_liar:

Why are you so afraid to post the entire quote?
 
It's not that Daveman.. It's the "transgender reassignment" benefits that OldFart needs and wants. My bet is that OldFart is on Medicare by now and doesn't really GIVE a ratz ass about ripping up peoples lives and the US economy just to give him more control over whatz good for us...

After his "dick-ectomy" --- he'll be a lot more reasonable.
You hush. Obama the Great and Powerful knows all, sees all.

kneel.jpg
No. But you do prove that the post has plenty of Xenophobes.
Is that the new "racism"?
 
No. But you do prove that the post has plenty of Xenophobes.[/QUOTE]

And liars.

Really.

These are the same lies as those in the Health Care forum.

SSDD from the knee jerk rw's.
 
Yes. This law made by committee to keep monopolistic insurance companies profitable while foregoing all successful models of universal health care in this and other economies appears to primarily by accident stumbled upon an incredibly robust design that virtually guarantees its survival and eventual success while generating an unexpected major stimulus to the economy.

The ACA will achieve all of this because of rather than in spite of its design failures. The first step in insuring all Americans was to eliminate medical underwriting, which has been done. Insurance companies cannot exclude people that might be unhealthy. This stops the death spiral of cherry picking policyholders. Everyone thinks that to accomplish this, the ACA had to guarantee the insurance companies a pool of desirable, healthy, young Americans who would be forced by the individual mandate to buy health insurance. Everybody is bitching and moaning that if enough of these 20 somethings choose to pay the $95 penalty the insurers will go broke. Fat chance. The ACA provides a government run and backed reinsurance fund sort of like deposit insurance. Your business sites didn't talk about that did they?

Since the premium credit is means tested, it functions as an automatic stabilizer just like unemployment insurance, except that it can never run out. Wow! We just invented stealth stimulus!

There are lots more goodies like this so that every piece of bad news generally will add to the success. If the ACA ends up destroying employer and union health insurance plans, then health costs will no longer be a cost component of American unit labor costs, benefitting American business. And all those individual plans Americans can't keep? If they met the coverage standards they would still be on the market. No more $5000 deductible plans that don't cover shit. Those folks are now forced into the exchanges where they will get better coverage with premium subsidies.
Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.
Typical daveman. When he is unable to argue a point, he simply reverts to adolescent attacks. Poor guy is a congenital idiot.
Why should we expect more. Really it is not his fault. Just bad luck.
I understand that you cannot rationally defend Obamacare's requirement for old men to have obstetric and lactation training coverage.

But your inability to think for yourself is not my problem. Deal with it.
 
OK let's get to the nitty gritty. If Obamacare works as advertised then the following is true:

Generic drugs and off label uses will multiply causing big Pharma to shrink.

Higher paid specialists will become lower paid generalists.

That sounds like reduced consumption and employment, how is this good?
Because Obama is good and benevolent and wise.

Or so the bootlickers keep telling me.
No they don't. However, thinking people do notice you lie a lot. And notice that you continually post dogma from bat shit crazy con web sites. And notice that you post childish personal attacks.
One question will clear this all up:

Did Obama lie when he said, "If you like your coverage, you can keep it. Period"?
 
Enjoy the obstetric care and lactation training the government decided you have to have.
Typical daveman. When he is unable to argue a point, he simply reverts to adolescent attacks. Poor guy is a congenital idiot.
Why should we expect more. Really it is not his fault. Just bad luck.
I understand that you cannot rationally defend Obamacare's requirement for old men to have obstetric and lactation training coverage.

But your inability to think for yourself is not my problem. Deal with it.


But it does explain why he supports Mandatory Mental Health and Substance Abuse coverage!
 

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