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How about a college degree instead?execute them, bury them in a mass grave and we'll all be better off.Yeah, yeah...let's all pretend that our "poor" aren't our greatest liability. Let's pretend the 'poor' doesn't represent the majority of the folks smoking cigarettes, smoking weed, with drinking problems, drug addictions...etc etc
Come on guys...stop the madness, sack up and learn to appreciate the whole truth. Stop dumbing yourselves down for the sake of PC. Don't be scared.
WOW...that's fucked up.
Just give the habitual bottom feeders a tent, a fishing pole and a bus ticket to a resource rich forest somewhere far, far away and wish them luck.
Haha...just give them one huh?
Were our "poor" not provided with options?
Free public school k-12 > Free college and or interest free loans?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse."
True, and look at how many folks are dropping out of "free HS" - the reality is that there's always gonna be a percentage of folks who don't find education (HS degree, college degree) worth their time.
I'm going to have to disagree with the entire premise that "non rich" folk are screwed in America.
The reality is that there are shit tons of businesses out there who are looking for people to fill positions that pay good money. The jobs, the opportunity, is there; you maybe can't find it "where you are." I'm speaking generally here, but I'll try to explain. That is to say, for example, I wanted to be an architect, but there's almost no architect jobs up here in Alaska and I wasn't willing to leave Alaska for whatever reason so there it is - I /chose/ not to be an architect even though the jobs /are/ out there, they're not where I am.
The secondary kind of problem with these good jobs that are open is that they might require a certain level of responsibility or dedication that a lot of folks aren't willing to give - for example, I wanted to have kids so I wasn't going to take on a CEO job that required me to be away from home all the time - I /chose/ not to be a CEO, but the job is out there.
RE education: There are indeed some great jobs that folks need an education for no doubt, but there's also a lot that just require some dedication and patience. Two of my boys elected /not/ to go to college, even though we saved for them to go and had the money set aside for them; they both got on the job training + $20/h pay. A degree is not a guarantee that you will get a good job, if you're not willing to go where the job is then the degree is actually a bit of a "liability" for you personally (the costs and the bill part is most certainly a "liability" to your future.) Sure a degree might help you get a good job (it looks great on paper to those doing the hiring,) but it's not 100% "necessary" to get a good job. Hell given the crap happening with colleges this past year, I would not be at all surprised if some college degrees are actually looked at as a negative by some business owners (I know a couple business folk who have stated that they'd never hire someone who graduated in California - I disagree with their premise [because of the shit happpening down there this past year] (that is borderline discrimination, it is total generalization, etc in my book) but I'm just giving that as an example. There's probably some business folk who wouldn't consider a degree from a "fly-over state" as worth a shit too.)
Why do Republicans keep trying to fuck over them and make their lives worse instead of better? Policies do matter.
No one is trying to fuck over anyone you dolt.
The R's believe that lowering taxes on the rich and on businesses is good for the economy, and will offer better jobs to the poor, and also bring up the middle class as well.
Just because /you/ don't believe their plan will work, doesn't NOT mean they are "trying to fuck over" anyone...
I see we have the usual suspects, (Trumpsters), pretending that they are not in the economic sector, that Grassley just insulted.
Most of you losers spend a ton of time on USMB, writing nothing but over-used talking points, indicating a low educational level.
The people, who Grassley suggested deserve humongous tax breaks, wouldn't ever be on a political message board, let alone posting talking points redundantly.
You Trumpsters, are the people Grassley just insulted. Exactly, who in the fuck do you think you're fooling?
I see we have the usual suspects, (Trumpsters), pretending that they are not in the economic sector, that Grassley just insulted.
Most of you losers spend a ton of time on USMB, writing nothing but over-used talking points, indicating a low educational level.
The people, who Grassley suggested deserve humongous tax breaks, wouldn't ever be on a political message board, let alone posting talking points redundantly.
You Trumpsters, are the people Grassley just insulted. Exactly, who in the fuck do you think you're fooling?
Soooo, your post count suggests you're a total fuckin loser.
I'm going to have to disagree with the entire premise that "non rich" folk are screwed in America.
The reality is that there are shit tons of businesses out there who are looking for people to fill positions that pay good money. The jobs, the opportunity, is there; you maybe can't find it "where you are." I'm speaking generally here, but I'll try to explain. That is to say, for example, I wanted to be an architect, but there's almost no architect jobs up here in Alaska and I wasn't willing to leave Alaska for whatever reason so there it is - I /chose/ not to be an architect even though the jobs /are/ out there, they're not where I am.
The secondary kind of problem with these good jobs that are open is that they might require a certain level of responsibility or dedication that a lot of folks aren't willing to give - for example, I wanted to have kids so I wasn't going to take on a CEO job that required me to be away from home all the time - I /chose/ not to be a CEO, but the job is out there.
RE education: There are indeed some great jobs that folks need an education for no doubt, but there's also a lot that just require some dedication and patience. Two of my boys elected /not/ to go to college, even though we saved for them to go and had the money set aside for them; they both got on the job training + $20/h pay. A degree is not a guarantee that you will get a good job, if you're not willing to go where the job is then the degree is actually a bit of a "liability" for you personally (the costs and the bill part is most certainly a "liability" to your future.) Sure a degree might help you get a good job (it looks great on paper to those doing the hiring,) but it's not 100% "necessary" to get a good job. Hell given the crap happening with colleges this past year, I would not be at all surprised if some college degrees are actually looked at as a negative by some business owners (I know a couple business folk who have stated that they'd never hire someone who graduated in California - I disagree with their premise [because of the shit happpening down there this past year] (that is borderline discrimination, it is total generalization, etc in my book) but I'm just giving that as an example. There's probably some business folk who wouldn't consider a degree from a "fly-over state" as worth a shit too.)
Why do Republicans keep trying to fuck over them and make their lives worse instead of better? Policies do matter.
No one is trying to fuck over anyone you dolt.
The R's believe that lowering taxes on the rich and on businesses is good for the economy, and will offer better jobs to the poor, and also bring up the middle class as well.
Just because /you/ don't believe their plan will work, doesn't NOT mean they are "trying to fuck over" anyone...
I was raised on a farm - and I know a two-story outhouse ain't good.
How about a college degree instead?execute them, bury them in a mass grave and we'll all be better off.
WOW...that's fucked up.
Just give the habitual bottom feeders a tent, a fishing pole and a bus ticket to a resource rich forest somewhere far, far away and wish them luck.
Haha...just give them one huh?
Were our "poor" not provided with options?
Free public school k-12 > Free college and or interest free loans?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse."
True, and look at how many folks are dropping out of "free HS" - the reality is that there's always gonna be a percentage of folks who don't find education (HS degree, college degree) worth their time.
Remember the days when people were ashamed to be on welfare and pay with food stamps?
People would do their shopping in the middle of the night with hopes of avoiding people and sparing them from embarrassment.
Socialists/ Liberals have glamorized the use of welfare to the point where people are shameless and proud to be using other people's money. It's fucking pathetic.
I see we have the usual suspects, (Trumpsters), pretending that they are not in the economic sector, that Grassley just insulted.
Most of you losers spend a ton of time on USMB, writing nothing but over-used talking points, indicating a low educational level.
The people, who Grassley suggested deserve humongous tax breaks, wouldn't ever be on a political message board, let alone posting talking points redundantly.
You Trumpsters, are the people Grassley just insulted. Exactly, who in the fuck do you think you're fooling?
Soooo, your post count suggests you're a total fuckin loser.
I see we have the usual suspects, (Trumpsters), pretending that they are not in the economic sector, that Grassley just insulted.
Most of you losers spend a ton of time on USMB, writing nothing but over-used talking points, indicating a low educational level.
The people, who Grassley suggested deserve humongous tax breaks, wouldn't ever be on a political message board, let alone posting talking points redundantly.
You Trumpsters, are the people Grassley just insulted. Exactly, who in the fuck do you think you're fooling?
Soooo, your post count suggests you're a total fuckin loser.
Certainly, not a loser of your level. I'm very happy, I am not you.
I was being funny, trying to anyhow.How about a college degree instead?execute them, bury them in a mass grave and we'll all be better off.GOP Senator Implies Those Who Aren’t Millionaires Waste Money On ‘Booze, Women’
That’s why the richest deserve a break on estate taxes, says Chuck Grassley.
In an astonishing defense of dropping “death taxes” for individual estates worth more than $5.5 million, GOP Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley implied that people not currently affected by that tax are “spending every darn penny ... on booze or women.”
“I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing — as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies,” Grassley told the Des Moines Register in an interview published Saturday. Grassley, who serves on the Finance Committee, made the remark when asked about the Senate tax reform measure which would double the exemption for estates to $11 million for an individual and $22 million for a couple. Heirs would inherit the estates tax-free.
Grassley’s comment triggered a wave of criticism on social media. Many complained that the working class is, in fact, spending “every darn penny” on raising their kids, caring for elderly parents, health care and putting food on the table. One Twitter user complained that the GOP was turning America into a version of “The Hunger Games.”
More: GOP Senator Implies Those Who Aren't Millionaires Waste Money On 'Booze, Women'
Wow! Just Wow! It takes a real neanderthal to make such an ignorant statement. However, Grassley has proven many times that he is an ignorant neanderthal.
Yeah, yeah...let's all pretend that our "poor" aren't our greatest liability. Let's pretend the 'poor' doesn't represent the majority of the folks smoking cigarettes, smoking weed, with drinking problems, drug addictions...etc etc
Come on guys...stop the madness, sack up and learn to appreciate the whole truth. Stop dumbing yourselves down for the sake of PC. Don't be scared.
WOW...that's fucked up.
Just give the habitual bottom feeders a tent, a fishing pole and a bus ticket to a resource rich forest somewhere far, far away and wish them luck.
Haha...just give them one huh?
Were our "poor" not provided with options?
Free public school k-12 > Free college and or interest free loans?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse."
When all the jobs are automated what will the people do then? With no jobs to pay the rent with what hope do we have?How about a college degree instead?execute them, bury them in a mass grave and we'll all be better off.
WOW...that's fucked up.
Just give the habitual bottom feeders a tent, a fishing pole and a bus ticket to a resource rich forest somewhere far, far away and wish them luck.
Haha...just give them one huh?
Were our "poor" not provided with options?
Free public school k-12 > Free college and or interest free loans?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse."
True, and look at how many folks are dropping out of "free HS" - the reality is that there's always gonna be a percentage of folks who don't find education (HS degree, college degree) worth their time.
Exactly!
And it's the fault of the socialists who have manifested the belief system among the poor that "welfare" is their right and not just a "fund" designed to help good hard working people who have fallen on hard times.
When all the jobs are automated what will the people do then? With no jobs to pay the rent with what hope do we have?How about a college degree instead?WOW...that's fucked up.
Just give the habitual bottom feeders a tent, a fishing pole and a bus ticket to a resource rich forest somewhere far, far away and wish them luck.
Haha...just give them one huh?
Were our "poor" not provided with options?
Free public school k-12 > Free college and or interest free loans?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
"You can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse."
True, and look at how many folks are dropping out of "free HS" - the reality is that there's always gonna be a percentage of folks who don't find education (HS degree, college degree) worth their time.
Exactly!
And it's the fault of the socialists who have manifested the belief system among the poor that "welfare" is their right and not just a "fund" designed to help good hard working people who have fallen on hard times.
GOP Senator Implies Those Who Aren’t Millionaires Waste Money On ‘Booze, Women’
That’s why the richest deserve a break on estate taxes, says Chuck Grassley.
In an astonishing defense of dropping “death taxes” for individual estates worth more than $5.5 million, GOP Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley implied that people not currently affected by that tax are “spending every darn penny ... on booze or women.”
“I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing — as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies,” Grassley told the Des Moines Register in an interview published Saturday. Grassley, who serves on the Finance Committee, made the remark when asked about the Senate tax reform measure which would double the exemption for estates to $11 million for an individual and $22 million for a couple. Heirs would inherit the estates tax-free.
Grassley’s comment triggered a wave of criticism on social media. Many complained that the working class is, in fact, spending “every darn penny” on raising their kids, caring for elderly parents, health care and putting food on the table. One Twitter user complained that the GOP was turning America into a version of “The Hunger Games.”
More: GOP Senator Implies Those Who Aren't Millionaires Waste Money On 'Booze, Women'
Wow! Just Wow! It takes a real neanderthal to make such an ignorant statement. However, Grassley has proven many times that he is an ignorant neanderthal.
How many rich people did you see in line to spend a $1,000 on a phone?
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You don't seem to know what the fuck a NAZI is. They are socialist which is the exact opposite of an American Conservative,EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES
Here Are 6 Of The Most Radical Provisions In The GOP Tax Bill
Congress NaziCons have dropped all pretenses of fairness. No more trickle-down - just a plain ole shit storm. Think of it as a two-story outhouse - with most of us on the bottom.
It's the same problem as enrolling kids in college because their parents went there. Legacies gives children of rich people unfair advantage.It is not "elitist" to say someone has messed up financial priorities... How many times you think I've told my kids they're wasting their money on stupid shit? Am I "elitist" against my kids?
The estate tax is nothing more than stealing from children, its money that parents saved going to their kids... Hell it hits spouses too; here you're trying to grieve the loss of your partner and the fucking gov is standing there with a proverbial gun demanding money. Then there's the "double taxation" issue; which is a double edged sword I won't get into detail on (interest not paid taxes on, but sometimes they've paid tax on it before they put it in the bank, etc.)
It's the same problem as enrolling kids in college because their parents went there. Legacies gives children of rich people unfair advantage.It is not "elitist" to say someone has messed up financial priorities... How many times you think I've told my kids they're wasting their money on stupid shit? Am I "elitist" against my kids?
The estate tax is nothing more than stealing from children, its money that parents saved going to their kids... Hell it hits spouses too; here you're trying to grieve the loss of your partner and the fucking gov is standing there with a proverbial gun demanding money. Then there's the "double taxation" issue; which is a double edged sword I won't get into detail on (interest not paid taxes on, but sometimes they've paid tax on it before they put it in the bank, etc.)
What is "unfair"? The luck of the draw?
Of course it has impact on you.Sure it does. You a multi millionaire?So why did Chuck stereotype you?
He didn't, it doesn't apply to me.
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If not, he was talking about you.
Wrong.
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Wake up or keep the blinders on, that's your choice.
But this really isn't a topic with much grey area for interpretation. He was talking about you, me and probably 99.9% of the people on this website.
You seem to think I should actually care, what he said has no bearing on me, so why should I be offended? Does it apply to you? If it does maybe you could look at reorganizing your priorities.
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