WTC-7 Was NOT A Controlled Demolition Inside Job

[eots]

I have never claimed photos of thermite froth...but your case for your collapse due to fire scenario is weak and unconvincing and lacks any conclusive evidence

I get it now.

You'd rather support a guy with a theory that has ADMITTED to having made a mistake about a column showing a cut in one of his photos, debunks his own claim of thermite cuts in the same photo by annotating it with "there are no burn marks" on the columns/beams, won't provide the photos that he has which supports his claim of thermite froth/signatures everywhere, lies about fires not being able to affect steel, lies about a photo of WTC7 DURING it's collapse that shows no damage to the windows (turns out it was a photo BEFORE he collapse), and lies about the total collapse time of WTC7 being 6.6 seconds when in actuality it more than double that.

The only evidence you have about WCT7 is that it LOOKED like a controlled demolition.

So tell us eots. What conclusive evidence has Terral supplied here in these forums that makes you believe his theory is correct?

with all due respect to my little green friend these theories are not terrels theories they are the conclusions of some of the best minds in the country with vast experience and expertise and their independent analysis is far more compelling and genuine in its process than the 9/11 commission and its various spawn

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[SFC Ollie]

Here's another thought. If Building 7 was rigged for implosion as part of the towers destruction by Aircraft, how could the "Planners" know that the building would be damaged enough to bring it down without drawing suspicion. And why were not other buildings that were damaged enough to demolish at later dates not part of the plot?

Using any type of explosives or thermite on Bldg 7 just doesn't make sense as part of the overall picture that day.

 

[eots]

Here's another thought. If Building 7 was rigged for implosion as part of the towers destruction by Aircraft, how could the "Planners" know that the building would be damaged enough to bring it down without drawing suspicion. And why were not other buildings that were damaged enough to demolish at later dates not part of the plot?

Using any type of explosives or thermite on Bldg 7 just doesn't make sense as part of the overall picture that day.

the buildings that did not collapse were not owned by Larry silverstein and did not house enron and CIA documents..damage to building 7 was not necessary the gullible public accepted building fires alone for the longest time ...building 7 was not even include in the 9/11 report and the final non-conclusive report took 8 yrs ..many more did not even know three buildings collapsed that day for many months after all the focus was on shock and awe...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Here's another thought. If Building 7 was rigged for implosion as part of the towers destruction by Aircraft, how could the "Planners" know that the building would be damaged enough to bring it down without drawing suspicion. And why were not other buildings that were damaged enough to demolish at later dates not part of the plot?

Using any type of explosives or thermite on Bldg 7 just doesn't make sense as part of the overall picture that day.

the buildings that did not collapse were not owned by Larry silverstein and did not house enron and CIA documents..damage to building 7 was not necessary the gullible public accepted building fires alone for the longest time ...building 7 was not even include in the 9/11 report and the final non-conclusive report took 8 yrs ..many more did not even know three buildings collapsed that day for many months after all the focus was on shock and awe...

Please, so Mr Silverstein would have his own building destroyed and cover it up by the real attacks of the day? You are a funny one.

 

[Gamolon]

I have never claimed photos of thermite froth...but your case for your collapse due to fire scenario is weak and unconvincing and lacks any conclusive evidence

I get it now.

You'd rather support a guy with a theory that has ADMITTED to having made a mistake about a column showing a cut in one of his photos, debunks his own claim of thermite cuts in the same photo by annotating it with "there are no burn marks" on the columns/beams, won't provide the photos that he has which supports his claim of thermite froth/signatures everywhere, lies about fires not being able to affect steel, lies about a photo of WTC7 DURING it's collapse that shows no damage to the windows (turns out it was a photo BEFORE he collapse), and lies about the total collapse time of WTC7 being 6.6 seconds when in actuality it more than double that.

The only evidence you have about WCT7 is that it LOOKED like a controlled demolition.

So tell us eots. What conclusive evidence has Terral supplied here in these forums that makes you believe his theory is correct?

with all due respect to my little green friend these theories are not terrels theories they are the conclusions of some of the best minds in the country with vast experience and expertise and their independent analysis is far more compelling and genuine in its process than the 9/11 commission and its various spawn

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Really?

So this photo with annotations came from "some of the best minds in the world" as proof of thermite cut columns and beams and NOT from Terral? And in the same photo, these "best minds" then go on to claim that there is no evidence of burn marks or melting on the columns/beams?

Can you tell me which "best mind" Terral got the premise that a certain photo of WTC7 taken before it collapsed was a photo of WTC7 DURING it's collapse and showed no signs of damage? Can you show me which "best mind" started that lie?

Can you provide me with a link or reference to the "best mind" that says there is evidence of " WTC7 thermite froth/signatures" everywhere yet cannot provide one single photo of it?

Please do.

If it's NOT his theory, then why does he call it his THESIS?

 

[eots]

\For OpEdNews: Alan Miller - Writer

Official Explanation a “Fraud”


World renowned scientist, Lynn Margulis, Ph.D., has severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation, “I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken.”


One of America’s most prominent scientists, Dr. Margulis is Distinguished University Professor in the Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts - Amherst. She was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983 and served as Chairman of the Academy’s Space Science Board Committee on Planetary Biology and Chemical Evolution. In 1999, President Bill Clinton presented Dr. Margulis with the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, "for her outstanding contributions to understanding of the development, structure, and evolution of living things, for inspiring new research in the biological, climatological, geological and planetary sciences


In her statement, Dr. Margulis cites “the research and clear writing by David Ray Griffin in his fabulous books about 9/11” as a useful source of information and analysis of problems with the official account of 9/11. She specifically lauded The New Pearl Harbor and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, “which provides overwhelming evidence that the official story is contradictory, incomplete, and unbelievable.”Internationally acclaimed for her ground-breaking scientific work, Dr. Margulis is an elected member of The World Academy of Art and Science, an organization of 500 of the world’s leading thinkers



David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988.
Personal blog 1/5/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories], and 7 were brought down by explosives. [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]




Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 950 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition



Robert H. Waser, BS ME, MS ME, PE – Retired Research and Development Engineer, U.S. Naval Ordinance Lab. 33 year career, of which 15 years were as Chief Engineer of the laboratory's wind tunnel complex, which includes the world's largest hypervelocity wind tunnel. Retired Licensed Professional Engineer, State of Maryland.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The 'official' 9/11 story seems to violate laws of physics and engineering analysis, specifically with respect to the collapse speed and the temperatures of molten iron. The only explanation that seems to be in accordance with all observations is controlled demolition." AE911Truth

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Terral]

Hi Gam:

If it's NOT his theory, then why does he call it his THESIS?

Gam is obviously confused. If 'you' have a "Building Fires Did It" Case cuckoo, this is the time to start making that presentation for the benefit of these readers.

Good Luck . . .

Terral

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here's another thought. If Building 7 was rigged for implosion as part of the towers destruction by Aircraft, how could the "Planners" know that the building would be damaged enough to bring it down without drawing suspicion. And why were not other buildings that were damaged enough to demolish at later dates not part of the plot?

Using any type of explosives or thermite on Bldg 7 just doesn't make sense as part of the overall picture that day.

the buildings that did not collapse were not owned by Larry silverstein and did not house enron and CIA documents..damage to building 7 was not necessary the gullible public accepted building fires alone for the longest time ...building 7 was not even include in the 9/11 report and the final non-conclusive report took 8 yrs ..many more did not even know three buildings collapsed that day for many months after all the focus was on shock and awe...

Please, so Mr Silverstein would have his own building destroyed and cover it up by the real attacks of the day? You are a funny one.

and YOUR a brainwashed Bush dupe afraid of the truth.

 

[DiveCon]

the buildings that did not collapse were not owned by Larry silverstein and did not house enron and CIA documents..damage to building 7 was not necessary the gullible public accepted building fires alone for the longest time ...building 7 was not even include in the 9/11 report and the final non-conclusive report took 8 yrs ..many more did not even know three buildings collapsed that day for many months after all the focus was on shock and awe...

Please, so Mr Silverstein would have his own building destroyed and cover it up by the real attacks of the day? You are a funny one.

and YOUR a brainwashed Bush dupe afraid of the truth.

WOW
what irony

 

[SFC Ollie]

the buildings that did not collapse were not owned by Larry silverstein and did not house enron and CIA documents..damage to building 7 was not necessary the gullible public accepted building fires alone for the longest time ...building 7 was not even include in the 9/11 report and the final non-conclusive report took 8 yrs ..many more did not even know three buildings collapsed that day for many months after all the focus was on shock and awe...

Please, so Mr Silverstein would have his own building destroyed and cover it up by the real attacks of the day? You are a funny one.

and YOUR a brainwashed Bush dupe afraid of the truth.

So you can't find any reasoning in this either? Maybe you are coming out of the fog. Run out of crack money maybe?

 

[eots]

Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,” he said.
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[SFC Ollie]

Which still leaves you with thinking that Mr Silverstein had the twin towers the Pentagon and flight 93 hit just to cover up the destruction of his own building........


LA la la la la la.....

 

[Bern80]

Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,” he said.
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

And I have bad news for you and Terral and 9/11. Dr. Quintere would in no way consider the lot of you the
'right' type of conspiracy theorists.

What is so clear to the rest of us eludes you fools. YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. CLEARLY you have already decided what the truth is. All the lot of you are doing is trying to do here is convince people of an ill founded conclusion.

 

[eots]

Which still leaves you with thinking that Mr Silverstein had the twin towers the Pentagon and flight 93 hit just to cover up the destruction of his own building........


LA la la la la la.....

silverstein owned the towers as well.. bozo.... and silverstein is just a co-conspirator pawn

 

[DiveCon]

Which still leaves you with thinking that Mr Silverstein had the twin towers the Pentagon and flight 93 hit just to cover up the destruction of his own building........


LA la la la la la.....

silverstein owned the towers as well.. bozo.... and silverstein is just a co-conspirator pawn

no shit moron


look at what he actually said


my GOD you are too fucking stupid

 

[eots]

Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,” he said.
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

And I have bad news for you and Terral and 9/11. Dr. Quintere would in no way consider the lot of you the
'right' type of conspiracy theorists.

What is so clear to the rest of us eludes you fools. YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. CLEARLY you have already decided what the truth is. All the lot of you are doing is trying to do here is convince people of an ill founded conclusion.

he statement is more directed to his peers such as these people

David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988. Personal blog 1/5/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories], and 7 were brought down by explosives. [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

... I implore my fellow physicists and engineers who may have the time, expertise, and (ideally) supercomputer access to get to work on the physics of the World Trade Center collapses and publish their findings in refereed journals like, say, the Journal of Applied Physics.

The issue of knowing who was really behind the 9/11 attacks is of paramount importance to the future of our country, because the "official" assumption that it was the work of 19 Arab amateurs (1) does not match the available facts and (2) has led directly to the deplorable Patriot Act, the illegal Iraq war, NSA spying on ordinary Americans, repudiation of the Geneva Conventions, and the repeal of habeas corpus (a fundamental point of law that has been with us since the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215).

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!" http://impactglassman

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 950 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building





One of America’s most prominent scientists, Dr. Margulis is Distinguished University Professor in the Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts - Amherst. She was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983 and served as Chairman of the Academy’s Space Science Board Committee on Planetary Biology and Chemical Evolution. In 1999, President Bill Clinton presented Dr. Margulis with the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, "for her outstanding contributions to understanding of the development, structure, and evolution of living things, for inspiring new research in the biological, climatological, geological and planetary sciences, and for her extraordinary abilities as a teacher and communicator of science to the public."

In her statement on PatriotsQuestion911.com, Dr. Margulis referred to 9/11 as “this new false-flag operation, which has been used to justify the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as unprecedented assaults on research, education, and civil liberties”. She compared 9/11 to several self-inflicted attacks that had been used in the past to arouse people’s fear and hatred and justify war, including the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor, the Reichstag Fire, and Operation Himmler, which Germany used to justify the invasion of Poland, the trigger for World War II.

In her statement, Dr. Margulis cites “the research and clear writing by David Ray Griffin in his fabulous books about 9/11” as a useful source of information and analysis of problems with the official account of 9/11. She specifically lauded The New Pearl Harbor and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, “which provides overwhelming evidence that the official story is contradictory, incomplete, and unbelievable.”


OpEdNews - Article: National Academy of Sciences Member Calls for New 9/11 Investigation

 

[eots]

Which still leaves you with thinking that Mr Silverstein had the twin towers the Pentagon and flight 93 hit just to cover up the destruction of his own building........


LA la la la la la.....

silverstein owned the towers as well.. bozo.... and silverstein is just a co-conspirator pawn

no shit moron


look at what he actually said


my GOD you are too fucking stupid

he said...he had ...the twin towers..the pentagon....and...flight 93....hit....just to cover up
the destructin of ..his own.......BUILDING.....

STUPID...don't pretend.. clearly..lil uniformed Ollie was unaware that silverstein owned all 3 buildings that collapsed that day...until now

 

[candycorn]

eots=

 

[DiveCon]

silverstein owned the towers as well.. bozo.... and silverstein is just a co-conspirator pawn

no shit moron


look at what he actually said


my GOD you are too fucking stupid

he said...he had ...the twin towers..the pentagon....and...flight 93....hit....just to cover up
the destructin of ..his own.......BUILDING.....

STUPID...don't pretend.. clearly..lil uniformed Ollie was unaware that silverstein owned all 3 buildings that collapsed that day...until now

except he didnt
you dumb fuck
he owned LEASES, not the actual buildings

 

[eots]

no shit moron


look at what he actually said


my GOD you are too fucking stupid

he said...he had ...the twin towers..the pentagon....and...flight 93....hit....just to cover up
the destructin of ..his own.......BUILDING.....

STUPID...don't pretend.. clearly..lil uniformed Ollie was unaware that silverstein owned all 3 buildings that collapsed that day...until now

except he didnt
you dumb fuck
he owned LEASES, not the actual buildings

again you are just a weasel who's lie about Ollie's post fell apart so now you try to split hairs and change the premise of your argument