Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

[Freewill]

I refuse to answer the poll because Carter isn't there.

Carter invited the taliban to the white house and put them on the same level as the founding fathers?

Carter loved the islamists so much he dedicated the space shuttle columbia to them?

Carter made illegal arms deals with iran/contra?

Do tell,...

No one invited the Taliban to the White house, gosh once a liberal lies about something the just keep on keeping on.

 

[Black_Label]

I refuse to answer the poll because Carter isn't there.

Carter invited the taliban to the white house and put them on the same level as the founding fathers?

Carter loved the islamists so much he dedicated the space shuttle columbia to them?

Carter made illegal arms deals with iran/contra?

Do tell,...

No one invited the Taliban to the White house, gosh once a liberal lies about something the just keep on keeping on.

Holy fuck are you stupid, but that's the staple of being a right winger. Did you even read the OP?

 

[Stephanie]

this thread is total make believe and not honest or honorable

 

[Katzndogz]

I refuse to answer the poll because Carter isn't there.

Carter invited the taliban to the white house and put them on the same level as the founding fathers?

Carter loved the islamists so much he dedicated the space shuttle columbia to them?

Carter made illegal arms deals with iran/contra?

Do tell,...

Carter called the Ayatollah Khomeni another Ghandi. Jimmy Carter is the father of today's nuclear Iran.

Carter?s Role in Khomeini?s Rise to Power | Socyberty

During his Presidency, Jimmy Carter didn’t only abandon support for the Shah for his alleged human rights violations. He also gave support to Khomeini. A Former Naval intelligence offer and CIA agent for the Carter administration told Mike evens that Carter gave Khomeini checks when he was in France [it's in page 14 of Mike Evan's book "Jimmy Carter The Liberal Left and World Chaos" and the CIA agent decided to remain anonymous]. In fact, the CIA agent was involved in giving him the checks [it is in page 14 of that same book].



Carter administration officials also expressed support to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. William Sulivan, Carter’s ambassador to Iran, said, “Khomeini is a Ghandi-like figure.”

Carter adviser James Bill said that Khomeini is not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

“Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint,” said Andrew Young, Carter’s ambassador to the UN

If democrats can make a saint out of St. Skittles, they can make one out of a mad mullah too.

Whatever history there is, it is, it is unchangeable. Democrats cannot be permitted to reach back into time to justify obama's clueless idiocy. It stands on its own.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

As long as you have Israelis in Israel, you're going to have turmoil. That's what the Madrassas are currently all about

In 1942 the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem hitched a ride with the Afrika Korps in the back of Rommel's baggage car in the hope of helping those nice boys with the Deaths Head insignia on their lapels and caps clean out the riff raff in Jerusalem after their seemingly imminent arrival when his travel plans were suddenly and arbitrarily changed by some guy named Montgomery and the British Eighth Army at a nondescript desert dusthole called el Alamein.

At the end of the Second World War, the victorious Allies, under the auspices of the United Nations, in order to appease their consciensces and muddy their appearance of guilt and complicity in ignoring the events taking place in the death camps agreed to recreate an independent Israeli State. All of these political events took place under a US administration headed by a President who bore the letter 'D' after his name, party symbol, the jackass, and whose administration was filled with office holders and administrators who had cut their political eye teeth in the ranks of and daily vigorously implemented and disgorged Communist Party Philosophy. 1946 lad, 1946. The only politically visible Republican around then was Douglas MacArthur, but he was busy on the Japanese isles hanging Japanese war criminals.

 

[Sallow]

> Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Yes. Have you heard of the Iran Hostage Crisis? That was what year?

The best thing we can do to get out of the middle east is to keep advancing horizontal fracking. Energy independence is nigh.

Eisenhower's direct involvement in overthrowing the Democratic government in Iran was confirmed recently.

1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you miss the memo?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

TC is retarded. Those savages have been slitting throats for centuries.

But let's blame the gop......what a moron.

 

[Freewill]

Carter invited the taliban to the white house and put them on the same level as the founding fathers?

Carter loved the islamists so much he dedicated the space shuttle columbia to them?

Carter made illegal arms deals with iran/contra?

Do tell,...

No one invited the Taliban to the White house, gosh once a liberal lies about something the just keep on keeping on.

Holy fuck are you stupid, but that's the staple of being a right winger. Did you even read the OP?

Go ahead be an uninformed ahole those were not the Taliban no matter how much you want to insult and lie. Just because you have a lying picture doesn't make it so.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Actually it's Wilson and the prog/liberals fault

they went and got us involved in WW1, a war that was none of our business

ever since then, we have had to deal with everyfuckingshithole country since

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Wait, I thought it was all Bush's fault...

 

[antiquity]

The turmoil started in 1948 when a democratic president recognized Israel. We would still have had this problem because of our continuing military support for our 51st...eh....Israel.

 

[rdean]

Democrats HATE that Reagan armed the Mujahadeen, the very people who were fighting the Communists; it deranges them so badly they have to lie

Also, you can mark Jimmy Carter turning Iran over to the Islamists as the day the ME took a turn for the worse

They'll never blame anything on a Democrat...just look at today with Obama..nothing is that mans fault...but he did kill Bin laden

Obama killed OBL?? Was Obama at Tora Bora?

Tora Bora was where Republicans let Bin Laden go. Everyone knows that. Even Republicans.

 

[rdean]

TC is retarded. Those savages have been slitting throats for centuries.

But let's blame the gop......what a moron.

From Post 18:

Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Reagan didn't do all that much. What really started the violence escalation was Saddam invading Kuwait. Bin Laden wanted the Arab states to turn to him to drive out Saddam, but they preferred the help of the US. Bush Sr. drove out Saddam and stopped at the border because he knew the cost of nation building. As a man who had been an officer in WWII, Head of the CIA, and Vice President, you know he put into place spies, satellites and other methods to keep tabs on Iraq.

But Bin Laden was pissed the infidels had killed Muslims on Holy Lands and this was when he began plotting the 9/11 disaster. Bush Sr. was responding to a call of help from allies. He had a duty to go to the aid of Kuwait. 9/11 is Bin Laden's fault. He chose to attack the US.

The escalation of violence came under Bush Jr. If he had gone to Afghanistan and taken out Bin Laden and left, that would have been the end of it. But instead, out of the blue and strictly from the lure of cheap oil, he invaded Iraq.

In one quick strike, Bush Jr. took the US from the defender of Muslims to a reckless bully state who wants your treasure while he kills your uncle.

The region has been violent for a couple of thousand years, but it was at that moment Bush's debacle took it to the level of escalated violence.

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The violence has been there for thousands of years, but Republican's failed policies escalated it. That much is clear.

 

[Borillar]

The Middle East has been a cesspool for hundreds of years. Blaming it on Reagan is short-sighted. The only reason we are involved with that part of the world at all is oil. If there wasn't any oil there, the inhabitants of the region would be left to live their lives as they always did before and the US wouldn't care one whit about it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hey [MENTION=37510]Borillar[/MENTION]:

That avi of yours, you could photoshop it to show Bush giving Obama a knuckle sandwich. It's obvious those two are cut from the same cloth.

 

[Borillar]

Hey [MENTION=37510]Borillar[/MENTION]:

That avi of yours, you could photoshop it to show Bush giving Obama a knuckle sandwich. It's obvious those two are cut from the same cloth.

I might take you up on that idea. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

 

[bayoubill]

Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...

go back and study history from before you were born, dumb fuck...

 

[bripat9643]

The turmoil started in 1948 when a democratic president recognized Israel. We would still have had this problem because of our continuing military support for our 51st...eh....Israel.

I see we have another anti-Semite on the forum.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If you really want to get down to it, the Middle East has been in some kind of turmoil since the days when the Romans conquered it, or the Crusaders invaded it, or when the Nazis took hold of it in World War II. To blame any present force for it is foolish.