Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Are Reagan and the GOP responsible for the Taliban and the middle eastern turmoil?

  • Yes, If it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP, we never would have this mess

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Mostly, Reagan and the GOP had a big part in creating it.

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • No, we would have had 9/11 and the turmoil regardless.

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Total voters
    17

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Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqZ-ToXjCz0]Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube[/ame]

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
 
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HA HA HA HA HA HA...

The people in this area of the world have been practicing genocide for thousands of years and you want to blame it on someone else?

These are peoples who are controlled by religious leaders who breed radicalism. They have since before Islam was a religion and they continue to do it through Islam. The "common" citizen in these countries is afraid to do anything that might bring the religious wrath of the fanatics down on them, their families and the sect of the Islamic belief system. The entire culture is one of war.

If you want to blame it on one or two people then you are going to have to go back to the beginning to place that blame.
 
Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
hey dumbass....this country has been helping one side over the other in the third world since way back no matter who is in charge .....and usually those we help end up spitting in our faces .....which is why we should not give any kind of aide except humanitarian aide in the third world....when was the last time someone said you were a hack BL?....
 
Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
hey dumbass....this country has been helping one side over the other in the third world since way back no matter who is in charge .....and usually those we help end up spitting in our faces .....which is why we should not give any kind of aide except humanitarian aide in the third world....when was the last time someone said you were a hack BL?....

No one before the right winger's 2nd coming of christ Reagan and his GOP cabinet that were completely in love with radical islam has done so much for them, let alone created a terror cell that came back and attacks us.
You are just a butthurt bitch because you have nothing, and crybabying is all you can do.
 
> Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Yes. Have you heard of the Iran Hostage Crisis? That was what year?

The best thing we can do to get out of the middle east is to keep advancing horizontal fracking. Energy independence is nigh.
 
Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
hey dumbass....this country has been helping one side over the other in the third world since way back no matter who is in charge .....and usually those we help end up spitting in our faces .....which is why we should not give any kind of aide except humanitarian aide in the third world....when was the last time someone said you were a hack BL?....

No one before the right winger's 2nd coming of christ Reagan and his GOP cabinet that were completely in love with radical islam has done so much for them, let alone created a terror cell that came back and attacks us.
You are just a butthurt bitch because you have nothing, and crybabying is all you can do.

it seems you are the one crying like a little girl ......and i believe the 2nd part of your whine will back me up on that... now wipe the snot off your upper lip and quit acting like a pussy....
 
HA HA HA HA HA HA...

The people in this area of the world have been practicing genocide for thousands of years and you want to blame it on someone else?

These are peoples who are controlled by religious leaders who breed radicalism. They have since before Islam was a religion and they continue to do it through Islam. The "common" citizen in these countries is afraid to do anything that might bring the religious wrath of the fanatics down on them, their families and the sect of the Islamic belief system. The entire culture is one of war.

If you want to blame it on one or two people then you are going to have to go back to the beginning to place that blame.

the libtard agenda :lol:
 
Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...

Yo ahole...ME turmoil preceded RR by 2000 years...get a grip...
 
Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...

The Taliban was created along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border in early 1994, five years after US involvement in Afghanistan had ended, five years after Soviet ground troops left Afghanistan, 2 years after the Communist government in Afghanistan collapsed, five years AFTER Reagan left office and 1 year after Bush Sr. left office.

The United States lent support to Saddam in the 1980s because the United States, and most of the rest of the world did not want to see Iran defeat Iraq and threaten Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. The Soviet Union though, was the biggest supplier by far of weapons to Saddam's Iraq. Also over 1,000 Soviet troops were on the ground in Iraq aiding the Iraqi military during the Iran/Iraq War.

The Iran/Contral deal was a minor event and simply resulted in the United States supplying Iran with about 2,000 old Tow missiles to be able to use against Saddam's tanks in exchange for aid of the conra rebels in central America.
 
Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Reagan didn't do all that much. What really started the violence escalation was Saddam invading Kuwait. Bin Laden wanted the Arab states to turn to him to drive out Saddam, but they preferred the help of the US. Bush Sr. drove out Saddam and stopped at the border because he knew the cost of nation building. As a man who had been an officer in WWII, Head of the CIA, and Vice President, you know he put into place spies, satellites and other methods to keep tabs on Iraq.

But Bin Laden was pissed the infidels had killed Muslims on Holy Lands and this was when he began plotting the 9/11 disaster. Bush Sr. was responding to a call of help from allies. He had a duty to go to the aid of Kuwait. 9/11 is Bin Laden's fault. He chose to attack the US.

The escalation of violence came under Bush Jr. If he had gone to Afghanistan and taken out Bin Laden and left, that would have been the end of it. But instead, out of the blue and strictly from the lure of cheap oil, he invaded Iraq.

In one quick strike, Bush Jr. took the US from the defender of Muslims to a reckless bully state who wants your treasure while he kills your uncle.

The region has been violent for a couple of thousand years, but it was at that moment Bush's debacle took it to the level of escalated violence.
 
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Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
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Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
070404_assad_hmed_330a.grid-6x2.jpg
pelosi-assad.jpg
2r7mrdv.jpg
alg-chavez-obama-jpg.jpg

Wow, world leaders meeting. How freaky.
 
Document 52: Department of State Cable from George P. Shultz to the United States Embassy in Lebanon [et al.]. "Department Press Briefing, March 30, 1984," March 31, 1984.

The State Department announces it has imposed foreign policy controls on Iran and Iraq for exports of chemical weapons precursors. It responds to questions from the press about U.S. policy regarding the Iran-Iraq war, and a department spokesperson says Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations.

Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/#docs
Under the Reagan Administration, US foreign was "..... Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations."

At that time, the Administration knew that Saddam was using chemical weapons against the Iranians and his own people - the Kurds!

Apparently the Reagan Administration was all too willing to look the other way - as long as Iraqi was using WMD against America's enemies!
 
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Middle eastern turmoil is something that has been going on for many years, but has gotten worse since the Reagan admin with the worst act of course being 9/11.

Reagan essentially created the taliban, armed them, and gave them military training, which the later used against us. He even was as far as inviting them to the white house, and even stated they were the moral equivalents to america's founding fathers.

reagan_taliban_1985.jpg


Reagan loved them so much, he even referred to them as "freedom fighters" and went as far as to name the space shuttle columbia after them.

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Taliban - YouTube

The taliban also have stinger missiles given to them from reagan, which have been largely responsible for american aircraft being shot down.

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Then there is Saddam, whom was BFF with the Reagan admin, even after he was gassing his own people, the Reagan admin didn't care.

rumsfeld-saddam.jpg


Then of course there is arguably the biggest act of treason even committed, with Reagan and his GOP cabinet making illegal arms deals with Islamic extremists with the Iran/contra scandal.

It's interesting to think how things would be now if it wasn't for Reagan and the GOP's actions,...
070404_assad_hmed_330a.grid-6x2.jpg
pelosi-assad.jpg
2r7mrdv.jpg
alg-chavez-obama-jpg.jpg

Wow, world leaders meeting. How freaky.

You mean democrats getting cozy with thugs. If it's so not "freaky," then why do you stupid turds post that photo of Weinberger over and over?
 
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Maybe radical lefties have selected memories but the Iran/Contra issue wasn't about the Mid-East. It was about (illegal?) use of funding to protect American interests from communist control in Central America. Reagan allegedly violated an amendment slipped into a Military appropriations bill by a left wing senator named Boland that cut off funding for National defense. The Iran crisis happened when president Jimmie Carter became confused about how to handle jihad criminals who kidnapped American citizens.
 
Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

Reagan didn't do all that much. What really started the violence escalation was Saddam invading Kuwait. Bin Laden wanted the Arab states to turn to him to drive out Saddam, but they preferred the help of the US. Bush Sr. drove out Saddam and stopped at the border because he knew the cost of nation building. As a man who had been an officer in WWII, Head of the CIA, and Vice President, you know he put into place spies, satellites and other methods to keep tabs on Iraq.

But Bin Laden was pissed the infidels had killed Muslims on Holy Lands and this was when he began plotting the 9/11 disaster. Bush Sr. was responding to a call of help from allies. He had a duty to go to the aid of Kuwait. 9/11 is Bin Laden's fault. He chose to attack the US.

The escalation of violence came under Bush Jr. If he had gone to Afghanistan and taken out Bin Laden and left, that would have been the end of it. But instead, out of the blue and strictly from the lure of cheap oil, he invaded Iraq.

In one quick strike, Bush Jr. took the US from the defender of Muslims to a reckless bully state who wants your treasure while he kills your uncle.

The region has been violent for a couple of thousand years, but it was at that moment Bush's debacle took it to the level of escalated violence.

Funny, the thread is called:

Would We Even Have Middle Eastern Turmoil If It Wasn't For Reagan and The GOP?

And I'm the only one that answered it. And I didn't even blame Reagan.
 
Maybe radical lefties have selected memories but the Iran/Contra issue wasn't about the Mid-East. It was about (illegal?) use of funding to protect American interests from communist control in Central America. Reagan allegedly violated an amendment slipped into a Military appropriations bill by a left wing senator named Boland that cut off funding for National defense. The Iran crisis happened when president Jimmie Carter became confused about how to handle jihad criminals who kidnapped American citizens.

Maybe radical right wing morons should educate themselves that Reagan and his GOP cronies made illegal arms deals with islamic extremists in Iran.
 
Maybe radical lefties have selected memories but the Iran/Contra issue wasn't about the Mid-East. It was about (illegal?) use of funding to protect American interests from communist control in Central America. Reagan allegedly violated an amendment slipped into a Military appropriations bill by a left wing senator named Boland that cut off funding for National defense. The Iran crisis happened when president Jimmie Carter became confused about how to handle jihad criminals who kidnapped American citizens.

Maybe radical right wing morons should educate themselves that Reagan and his GOP cronies made illegal arms deals with islamic extremists in Iran.

Maybe left wing morons can remember when the US armed Russia during WW2. America also supported Castro before the Kennedy brothers became fixated in killing him. Russia was the enemy when Reagan armed Taliban fighters to shoot down Russian helicopters. Shit happens regardless of left wing selected memories. It's not the arms but the policies that have gotten the US in trouble. Jimmie Carter thought he could bend over and the jihad would not kick him in the ass. Bill Clinton ignored the first attack on the WTC and bombed a defenseless country in Europe while 9-11 terrorists were attending US flight schools. Barry Hussein went on a two year binge of apology tours and he thought the jihad would respect the US if we we pretend to be a 3rd world country.
 

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