Would Photos Of Planned Parenthoods Victims Help Or Hurt The Lefts "We Care About The Children" Act?

[TNHarley]

t around during the holocaust
But i have to ask, NAZIs were saying Jews werent children, or fetuses werent Jews?

They were saying "Jews weren't human", which pro-baby killers agree is true of babies.

Exactly.

Poor uneducated slobs like TN have no idea how closely their own ideology approximates that of the progressive Nazi party because they weren't taught that in public school.

They do that for a reason.

Didnt i see you in a thread earlier about how people fallaciously compare things to the holocaust and how it downplays what happened?
Maybe it was some other bumpkin.

 

[koshergrl]

This is how the left is getting campaign $$$$ now..they take kids being trafficked on the border, dress them up and take pictures while demanding they need more money to care for poor children and their families...

"Interestingly, although the poster claims money was nobly being raised to build youth hostels and homes, in fact, most of the donations were spent on weapons production."

10 Disturbing Pieces of Nazi Education Propaganda

 

[koshergrl]

t around during the holocaust
But i have to ask, NAZIs were saying Jews werent children, or fetuses werent Jews?

They were saying "Jews weren't human", which pro-baby killers agree is true of babies.

Exactly.

Poor uneducated slobs like TN have no idea how closely their own ideology approximates that of the progressive Nazi party because they weren't taught that in public school.

They do that for a reason.

Didnt i see you in a thread earlier about how people fallaciously compare things to the holocaust and how it downplays what happened?
Maybe it was some other bumpkin.

It is fallacious when the progressive nazis try to pretend they are the good guys in the story of the holocaust.

 

[Votto]

A fetus isnt a child

Idiots can say this stupid shit BECAUSE no forum, including this one, allows you to post the reality. These images are not "family friendly."

What stupid shit?

Did you miss the part where I quoted you?

So you are saying a fetus is a child? LOL
Is a child a fetus?
Bless your heart.

No, the birth fairy must wave her magic wand over the fetus before becoming a child just as it exits the womb.

 

[koshergrl]

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Yep. From CONCEPTION until DEATH it is genetically a HUMAN BEING. During that time it's just a question of age.

So by what you say, doctors and scientists believe that women should die because their pregnancy went wrong.

Do you know that there's over 65 thousand ectopic pregnancies in America each year?

Please tell me what life is in an ectopic pregnancy. The egg is fertilized. According to you there is conception. So tell all of cyberspace how that is life.

No science doesn't say that life starts at conception. The catholic church says that. But their own christian bible doesn't.

There are only 2 outcomes to an ectopic pregnancy.

1. The woman has an abortion and lives
2. The woman doesn't have an abortion and dies.

There are no other outcomes to an ectopic pregnancy. There is no life in the fertilized egg.

You are free to believe what you want. I will defend your right to do so. You aren't free to create your own facts nor are you free to force your beliefs on our nation.

Please let me know when someone comes to force you to have an abortion. I will call the police to make sure no one forces it on you.

I seriously wish you would have the same respect for people who don't share your views.

Yeah all this is bullshit.

It has never been illegal for a doctor to treat an ectopic pregnancy.

The baby killers like to pretend that before legalized late term abortion, women who had ectopic pregnancies, or who needed D&Cs, were just allowed to die.

It's a complete fabrication. You are a LIAR. We did not need to legalize on-demand abortion in order for women to be treated.

Stop lying, liar.

 

[bodecea]

Picture’s worth a thousands words and all that but a video really shows the drama.

The ones most of the pro-choicers really like, probably because they’re so action-packed, are the partial-birth abortion execution tapes. I guess it’s the little arms and legs flailing about after the executioner penetrates the baby’s skull with an ice pick or something and starts to scramble that tiny brain around. Boy, that gets the spasmodic twitching and sudden reflexes really going full tilt. Until the baby’s dead. Fade to black.

Go ahead and link it.

LOL...yeah, I’ll get right on that.

So the video you "described" doesn't really exist. Color me surprised.

 

[koshergrl]

Picture’s worth a thousands words and all that but a video really shows the drama.

The ones most of the pro-choicers really like, probably because they’re so action-packed, are the partial-birth abortion execution tapes. I guess it’s the little arms and legs flailing about after the executioner penetrates the baby’s skull with an ice pick or something and starts to scramble that tiny brain around. Boy, that gets the spasmodic twitching and sudden reflexes really going full tilt. Until the baby’s dead. Fade to black.

Go ahead and link it.

LOL...yeah, I’ll get right on that.

So the video you "described" doesn't really exist. Color me surprised.

 

[bodecea]

t around during the holocaust
But i have to ask, NAZIs were saying Jews werent children, or fetuses werent Jews?

They were saying "Jews weren't human", which pro-baby killers agree is true of babies.

You drooling trumpanzees have lost whatever tiny hill of moral superiority.....no one believes your so-called "pro life" stance anymore. It's clearly been only about control of a woman's body to you.

 

[koshergrl]

"
Here are just a few excerpts of Planned Parenthood abortionists and others explaining what happens in an abortion in their own words:

• “An eyeball just fell down into my lap, and that is gross! [laughter from the crowd]”
• “Let’s just give them all the violence, it’s a person, it’s killing, let’s just give them all that.”
• “…I might ask for a second set of forceps to hold the body at the cervix and pull off a leg or two, so it’s not PBA [partial-birth abortion].”
• “I’m like — Oh my God! I get it! When the skull is broken, that’s really sharp! I get it! I understand why people are talking about getting that skull out.”
  
  Horrific new Planned Parenthood video

 

[bodecea]

t around during the holocaust
But i have to ask, NAZIs were saying Jews werent children, or fetuses werent Jews?

They were saying "Jews weren't human", which pro-baby killers agree is true of babies.

Exactly.

Poor uneducated slobs like TN have no idea how closely their own ideology approximates that of the progressive Nazi party because they weren't taught that in public school.

They do that for a reason.

Didnt i see you in a thread earlier about how people fallaciously compare things to the holocaust and how it downplays what happened?
Maybe it was some other bumpkin.

It is fallacious when the progressive nazis try to pretend they are the good guys in the story of the holocaust.

"progressive nazis".....like "jumbo shrimp" or "Allie Baba intelligence".

 

[bodecea]

Picture’s worth a thousands words and all that but a video really shows the drama.

The ones most of the pro-choicers really like, probably because they’re so action-packed, are the partial-birth abortion execution tapes. I guess it’s the little arms and legs flailing about after the executioner penetrates the baby’s skull with an ice pick or something and starts to scramble that tiny brain around. Boy, that gets the spasmodic twitching and sudden reflexes really going full tilt. Until the baby’s dead. Fade to black.

Go ahead and link it.

LOL...yeah, I’ll get right on that.

So the video you "described" doesn't really exist. Color me surprised.

I really don't care. Do U?

 

[koshergrl]

 

[bodecea]

There are also human beings in different stages of life.

A woman cannot get pregnant by any other specie. That is a human being in her womb.

So as soon as the sperm penetrates the egg, it is a human being?
Do you even biology bro?

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. It is a scientific fact that a new human being is formed at the moment of conception. There's no debating that, from a scientific standpoint the embryo/ fetus is a human being. You can argue that it's not a person, but you can't argue (without looking like an ignoramus) that the fetus is not a member of the human species.

Can you link to the consensus?

Here are some quotes, from medical textbooks. I'll bold the pertinent parts for you.

“Fertilization is the process by which male and female haploid gametes (sperm and egg) unite to produce a genetically distinct individual.”

Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)

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National Institutes of Health, Medline Plus Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary (2013), http://www.merriamwebster.com/...

The government’s own definition attests to the fact that life begins at fertilization. According to the National Institutes of Health, “fertilization” is the process of union of two gametes (i.e., ovum and sperm) “whereby the somatic chromosome number is restored and the development of a new individual is initiated.”
Steven Ertelt “Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” 11/18/13

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“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” “A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”

Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.

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“It is the penetration of the ovum by a sperm and the resulting mingling of nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the initiation of the life of a new individual.”

Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30

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“Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. was first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization:
“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
From Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40

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“Thus a new cell is formed from the union of a male and a female gamete. [sperm and egg cells] The cell, referred to as the zygote, contains a new combination of genetic material, resulting in an individual different from either parent and from anyone else in the world.”

Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Quoted in Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)

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Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.

“[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being.”

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“The first cell of a new and unique human life begins existence at the moment of conception (fertilization) when one living sperm from the father joins with one living ovum from the mother. It is in this manner that human life passes from one generation to another. Given the appropriate environment and genetic composition, the single cell subsequently gives rise to trillions of specialized and integrated cells that compose the structures and functions of each individual human body. Every human being alive today and, as far as is known scientifically, every human being that ever existed, began his or her unique existence in this manner, i.e., as one cell. If this first cell or any subsequent configuration of cells perishes, the individual dies, ceasing to exist in matter as a living being. There are no known exceptions to this rule in the field of human biology.”

James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2 (Frederick, MD: University Publications of America, 1985)

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Rand McNally, Atlas of the Body (New York: Rand McNally, 1980) 139, 144

“In fusing together, the male and female gametes produce a fertilized single cell, the zygote, which is the start of a new individual.”

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“….it is scientifically correct to say that human life begins at conception.”

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth, Harvard Medical School: Quoted by Public Affairs Council

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“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”

Leslie Brainerd Arey, “Developmental Anatomy” seventh edition space (Philadelphia: Saunders, 1974), 55

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Thibodeau, G.A., and Anthony, C.P., Structure and Function of the Body, 8th edition, St. Louis: Times Mirror/Mosby College Publishers, St. Louis, 1988. pages 409-419

“The science of the development of the individual before birth is called embryology. It is the story of miracles, describing the means by which a single microscopic cell is transformed into a complex human being. Genetically the zygote is complete. It represents a new single celled individual.”

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Carlson, Bruce M. Patten’s Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3

“Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)… The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual.”

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Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943

“Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism…. At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), A new life has begun. ”

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Lennart Nilsson A Child is Born: Completely Revised Edition (Dell Publishing Co.: New York) 1986

“but the whole story does not begin with delivery. The baby has existed for months before – at first signaling its presence only with small outer signs, later on as a somewhat foreign little being which has been growing and gradually affecting the lives of those close by…”

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Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974

“In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, [at conception] the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun.”

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Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3

“The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote.”

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Human Embryology, 3rd ed. Bradley M. Patten, (New York: McGraw Hill, 1968), 43.

“It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual."

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The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed. Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md., (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998), 2-18:

“[The Zygote] results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”​

There are many more I could post, but there you go.

The left's RELIGION does not allow them to consider science.

#ElephantLivesMatter

 

[bodecea]

I really don't care. Do U?

 

[Votto]

t around during the holocaust
But i have to ask, NAZIs were saying Jews werent children, or fetuses werent Jews?

They were saying "Jews weren't human", which pro-baby killers agree is true of babies.

Exactly.

Poor uneducated slobs like TN have no idea how closely their own ideology approximates that of the progressive Nazi party because they weren't taught that in public school.

They do that for a reason.

Didnt i see you in a thread earlier about how people fallaciously compare things to the holocaust and how it downplays what happened?
Maybe it was some other bumpkin.

It is fallacious when the progressive nazis try to pretend they are the good guys in the story of the holocaust.

"progressive nazis".....like "jumbo shrimp" or "Allie Baba intelligence".

Don't look now but the Leftist Pope just called Progressives a bunch of Nazi's for their abortion policies.

Pope Calls Abortion ‘White Glove’ Equivalent of Nazi Crimes – The Local Alert

 

[Votto]

I really don't care. Do U?

Not caring about human suffering and death is called being a psychopath.

Psychopaths are unable to empathize with other human beings.

That will be $100.

You really should find a therapist.

 

[Aba Incieni]

I really don't care. Do U?

They took you to the ovens and gassed you in this thread.

 

[Coyote]

Well...we already know right's concern ends at birth

"We" meaning 'tards.

Yet if a pregnant woman is shot and killed, the killer is charged with TWO murders.

You people are just EVIL.

What is evil is your abrupt cessation of concern after birth. Maybr you had better go back to justifying torturing toddlers who made the mistake of being born to immigrant mothers,

 

[Coyote]

I really don't care. Do U?

Not caring about human suffering and death is called being a psychopath.

Psychopaths are unable to empathize with other human beings.

That will be $100.

You really should find a therapist.

Indeed. What does that say about all those who support a policy of forceably removing children from immigrant parents? Psychopath sounds about right.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Well...we already know right's concern ends at birth

"We" meaning 'tards.

Yet if a pregnant woman is shot and killed, the killer is charged with TWO murders.

You people are just EVIL.

What is evil is your abrupt cessation of concern after birth. Maybr you had better go back to justifying torturing toddlers who made the mistake of being born to immigrant mothers,

This is a major losing argument. They stood a better chance with the porky sow.