World Power?

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    America is the most powerful nation in the world, when Rome finally collapsed it was the still the most powerful nation on earth. So what would cause America to cease to be a beacon for hope and promise. Two things contribute, the lost of respect, Iraq has damaged that badly, and the loss of economic status. Both issues the republicans have helped undermine through unilateralism and deficit spending.

    A Global Power Shift in the Making by James F. Hoge, Jr.

    "The transfer of power from West to East is gathering pace and soon will dramatically change the context for dealing with international challenges -- as well as the challenges themselves. Many in the West are already aware of Asia's growing strength. This awareness, however, has not yet been translated into preparedness. And therein lies a danger: that Western countries will repeat their past mistakes...."

    "Today, China is the most obvious power on the rise. But it is not alone: India and other Asian states now boast growth rates that could outstrip those of major Western countries for decades to come. China's economy is growing at more than nine percent annually, India's at eight percent, and the Southeast Asian "tigers" have recovered from the 1997 financial crisis and resumed their march forward. China's economy is expected to be double the size of Germany's by 2010 and to overtake Japan's, currently the world's second largest, by 2020. If India sustains a six percent growth rate for 50 years, as some financial analysts think possible, it will equal or overtake China in that time."

    Foreign Affairs - A Global Power Shift in the Making - James F. Hoge, Jr.
     
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    How lame----you jsut had to throw in the shit about Iraq, didn't ya !
     
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    This is all just so ...... tired.

    America is the #1 world power. We have not attempted to take over the world, as Rome and Greece did.... But some people just can't stand that people want to come here, that we have the highest standard of living on the earth, our people are the safest and happiest on the earth, and anyone can rise to wealth and/or power here.

    It chafes with those who want to see their fellow man ground into the dirt.
     
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    America has disrespected the Black race with slavery.And still refuses to pay reparations to Black Americans.For this sin, God has placed a great curse on America, and the White slave master decendants.
     
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    Please explain to me exactly how liberating Iraq from a ruthless dictator and giving it to the Iraqis to govern somehow stained America as a beacon of hope and freedom in the world.

    I mean how dare we throw off the shackles of a tyrant. We no longer stand for freedom and hope for that one!
     
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    If America's elite continues to commit class war upon America's working class they will turn our nation into a second rate nation before some of you have shuffled off your mortal coils.

    Given how consistently their policies end up costing America and Americans, I suspect that is their hidden agenda, anway.

    I am still trying to ascertain their motive for this agenda, though.

    On the face of it, it really makes no sense.

    OTOH, if I am wrong about their agenda -- if they are in fact doing their best to keep America a powerful nation -- then the elite who are making these consistently dumb policies are impossibily stupid.

    I have a lot more trouble believing that those in charge are so short sighted, than I do believing that their motives are beyond my ability to fathom.
     
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    Maybe if Americans didn't buy into the notion that maual labor is some kind of low class job, we wouldn't be having to turn our heads the other way while illegal labor pours over our borders.
     
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    Editec, good post.


    Curious that wingnuts never get tired of criticizing others - I thought Clinton was responsible for the Great Flood - but when it is aimed at the enormous amount of failures their party and policies have caused since Reagan they get upset. Rather childish responses to bad choices and a horrible administration.


    A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

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    :lol: inferring only wingnuts constantly criticize is one of the silliest posts you have created yet. Do you ever actually READ what liberals post here ?
     
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    Spot on.

    If that class conscious conceit hadn't been driven into our heads, the whole FREE TRADE mess wouldn't have happened either.

    |Don't we all recall how many times some FREE TRADE apologist told us that it's okay that we caused the losses of millions of jobs because those workers were unskilled?

    It wasn't until the more high skilldd jobs started getting outsourced (like radiologist, computer tech and so forth) that people started to wake up to the fact that FREE TRADE is really class war on the ENTIRE WORKING CLASS.
     
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