This is hardly an argument against abortion rights, if that was the intent.
Actually Gatsby, in this study in Finland, this is true....merely looking at the study's numbers... but I can't say the study was truly meaningful.Actually relevance....total!Relevance....none.Just for perspective, there were 41,000 suicides in America in 2011. More than 32,000 were men, more than 8,000 for women.
The fact is that women who have abortions are more likely to commit suicide. Stick to the subject matter, kid..
It proves what you call a "fact" is actually a "FALLACY." Clearly the 32,000 men who committed suicide did NOT have abortions, so suicide has other factors as its cause.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin: "after this, therefore because of this") is a logical fallacy (of the questionable cause variety) that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X." It is often shortened to simply post hoc fallacy.
No. What I called a fact is a fact, dumb ass. Is it not fact that women who had abortions committed suicide at a higher rate? If don't understand simple matters, you shouldn't be throwing around relatively advanced concepts like post hoc erco propter hoc....that goes for you and dumb asses like Pogo.
Were these mostly SINGLE women having the abortions vs. mostly married women, having their babies?
A better study would have been women who aborted compared to single women who had their babies out of wedlock.
And married women who aborted with husband's consent and without husband's consent, compared to married women who chose to have their child.
And 1 year following is too short of a study.
ALSO, where is Finland, regarding abortion? Is it liberal or conservative in their laws? That could factor in to the study's results as well....
I would presume that a 'harder' lifestyle of a good portion of those having abortions could be a factor in the suicide rates as well....
And the security of being married with child, verses the insecurity of being unmarried with child.... I would presume being unmarried with child would have a higher suicide rate than married with child, but....I could be wrong???
I guess my bottom line is, this study, although it may be accurate as far as ''numbers'', it doesn't tell us much.
Good thoughts. And as noted earlier, the group defined as "women who had abortions" are by definition facing whatever their problems are that led to that abortion, which are themselves contributory influences to that suicide. Into which might also be thrown substance dependency, depression, employment instability, relationship instability, other health issues, any number of contributing factors. So cherrypicking the abortion out of the whole and pretending to see it as a cause is a blatant fallacy. Call it non sequitur, call it post hoc, whatever. I call it bullshit. Even the simple know what that means.
Moreover -- Finland has high suicide/depression rates anyway.
Know what they also have a lot of?
Guns.
I feel a satirical statistical analogy coming on...
Nobody's cherrypicking anything, bud. The study is simple matter of fact study. It never makes claims to the exclusion of other factors that may contribute to suicide. You can't handle it because it shines a negative light on your political vortex.
LOL at this: "Moreover -- Finland has high suicide/depression rates anyway." - Funny watching you throw out completely illogical statements.