With Donald Trump's Iowa landslide, evangelicals reveal who they really are

[berg80]

MSN

This article from Salon really hits the nail on the head.

the religious right emerged directly as a reaction to the civil rights movement, as a way for segregationists to justify their racism on the grounds of faith rather than bigotry. The architects of modern American evangelicalism, such as Jerry Falwell, often got their start by pushing the view that the Bible demands the separation of the races. The infrastructure of the modern evangelical movement, especially its schools, grew up as a way to establish white-only spaces after the federal ban on most forms of racial discrimination.

Trump may not believe in faith or salvation, but he sure believes in racism and sexism. That Iowa evangelicals turned out to back Trump isn't a betrayal of their values. It reveals the values that always fueled their movement. It's just the last bit of plausible deniability has faded away.

I kind of take this as some kind of vindication. Over forty years ago I took the pulpit in one of the largest churches in the area. I was a senior in High School, and an award winning speaker, nationally ranked in Forensics, national winner with the American Legion. My church had a senior Sunday, where seniors took over the service. Traditionally, a seminary student would deliver the sermon, but they thought it was a good idea to give me the sermon. I mean what could go wrong?

So, I took it and ran with it. The quoted above is pretty much what I said. Jerry Falwell, the moral majority, well I demonstrated that they weren't moral, that they were not walking with Christ, that they were white supremist, no longer hiding behind a white coat and hood, but hiding behind the bible.

I mean come on, Ronald Reagan was running for president, against Jimmy Carter, and the evangelical movement was behind Reagan. WTF? How the hell does that make any sense? And that was just the beginning. Now look where we are at. So called "Christain" evangelicals backing a low life scumbag like Donald Trump. Do these people have no sense of decency? Do they even bother to read the Bible?

But anyways, after the service, as was customary, I walked out with the preacher and then stood at the door greeting parishioners as they exited. The poor preacher, he was looking for a rock to hide under. And man didn't I get some icy glances. But there were some of them that gave me a big bear hug and said they were happy someone had the guts to lay reality out there.

But that was forty years ago. There hasn't been a senior Sunday since then. I killed it. I couldn't be more proud.

Does the name you go by have, by chance, something to do with 1984?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Historic win? He got fifty percent of the vote of 15% of Republican voters. In other words, not squat shit.

Wrong, but that won't stop you from believing the regurgitated propaganda coming from your liberal rags.

Trump Breaks Record for Biggest Win in History of Iowa Republican Caucuses

Former President Donald Trump now owns the record for the largest margin of victory in the history of contested Iowa Republican caucuses.

1ft.io

Trump's margin of victory in Iowa GOP caucuses smashed previous record

Former President Donald Trump's 30-point victory smashed the record previously held by Bob Dole.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Smokin' OP]

One day there will be a Trump memorial near the Lincoln memorial.

I think there already is, when construction takes place.

 

[MarcATL]

MSN

This article from Salon really hits the nail on the head.

the religious right emerged directly as a reaction to the civil rights movement, as a way for segregationists to justify their racism on the grounds of faith rather than bigotry. The architects of modern American evangelicalism, such as Jerry Falwell, often got their start by pushing the view that the Bible demands the separation of the races. The infrastructure of the modern evangelical movement, especially its schools, grew up as a way to establish white-only spaces after the federal ban on most forms of racial discrimination.

Trump may not believe in faith or salvation, but he sure believes in racism and sexism. That Iowa evangelicals turned out to back Trump isn't a betrayal of their values. It reveals the values that always fueled their movement. It's just the last bit of plausible deniability has faded away.

I kind of take this as some kind of vindication. Over forty years ago I took the pulpit in one of the largest churches in the area. I was a senior in High School, and an award winning speaker, nationally ranked in Forensics, national winner with the American Legion. My church had a senior Sunday, where seniors took over the service. Traditionally, a seminary student would deliver the sermon, but they thought it was a good idea to give me the sermon. I mean what could go wrong?

So, I took it and ran with it. The quoted above is pretty much what I said. Jerry Falwell, the moral majority, well I demonstrated that they weren't moral, that they were not walking with Christ, that they were white supremist, no longer hiding behind a white coat and hood, but hiding behind the bible.

I mean come on, Ronald Reagan was running for president, against Jimmy Carter, and the evangelical movement was behind Reagan. WTF? How the hell does that make any sense? And that was just the beginning. Now look where we are at. So called "Christain" evangelicals backing a low life scumbag like Donald Trump. Do these people have no sense of decency? Do they even bother to read the Bible?

But anyways, after the service, as was customary, I walked out with the preacher and then stood at the door greeting parishioners as they exited. The poor preacher, he was looking for a rock to hide under. And man didn't I get some icy glances. But there were some of them that gave me a big bear hug and said they were happy someone had the guts to lay reality out there.

But that was forty years ago. There hasn't been a senior Sunday since then. I killed it. I couldn't be more proud.

We've known for at least the better part of two decades who the so-called American "evangelical" really are.

Thanks to Trump, it's crystal clear for all to see.

 

[berg80]

The libtards are desperate to pour cold water on Trump's historic Iowa win!

Historic? Well, I guess it could be interpreted that way. Exit polling revealed 65% of caucus goers may have sniffed too much fertilizer. They still cling tightly to the batshyte crazy mythology surrounding the Orange Messiah's Big Lie. Meaning when Trump thanked the Iowans who voted for him he was speaking to the craziest of the Crazy.
If there was a guy running to be the mayor of a small town in Iowa, where everyone knows everyone else's biz, who cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star, was found guilty of sexual assault, had to pay a fine for stealing charitable donations, and settled a fraud case involving a real estate school for $25M, what are the odds he'd win?

 

[Flash]

With Potatohead being able to steal the 2020 election by fraudulent votes collected in ghetto districts, the Negroes reveal who they really are.

 

[MarcATL]

This phenomenon -- the way "Chrisitians" have sold their soul, and the soul of their religion, to a con man -- has been one of the most discouraging components of the orange era.

Tim Alberta has written a book from a horrified Christian perspective of this, below.

In a nutshell, his explanation from the inside is that these people have decided that it takes a barbarian to defeat a barbarian. So they have essentially deputized Trump as the beast to "defeat" what they consider to be "evil".

Some of these have convinced themselves that he is actually a Christian, but Alberta believes they're in the minority, that they've talked themselves into believing that essentially as a way to assuage their guilt over what they have done.

Black Americans aren't surprised by white professed Christians because they've seen, actually witnessed this before...look at how they handled slavery.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

With Potatohead being able to steal the 2020 election by fraudulent votes collected in ghetto districts, the Negroes reveal who they really are.

It's rare that I see a post that crystalizes the views and beliefs of a fairly good sect of the US population. This is how the alt-right has incorporated and co-opted mainstream conservatism. The views of a once radical group of people, are the now the views of the majority of conservatives.

Bravo! You've been assimilated.

 

[Winston]

So you believe all Christians are Racists because a majority of Iowan "evangelicals" voted for Trump? Wow, yeah whatever.

Absolutely, we are talking about Iowa. I mean WTF? Who gives a shit about those low IQ holy rollers. And hell, 85% of the Republicans in Iowa decided to stay the hell at the house. Not like Trump was motivating their asses. That is the bigger number.

I mean come on, you got a small percentage of registered Republicans even bothering to caucus. I mean is it surprising that half of them are a bunch of holy roller dumbshits? Hell no.
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So you believe all Christians are Racists because a man "evangelicals" voted for Trump? Wow, yeah whatever.

Wrong, but that won't stop you from believing the regurgitated propaganda coming from your liberal rags.

Trump Breaks Record for Biggest Win in History of Iowa Republican Caucuses

Former President Donald Trump now owns the record for the largest margin of victory in the history of contested Iowa Republican caucuses.

1ft.io

Trump's margin of victory in Iowa GOP caucuses smashed previous record

Former President Donald Trump's 30-point victory smashed the record previously held by Bob Dole.

www.cbsnews.com

In 2016, Republicans set a new record for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters. Though the total made up only about a third of all registered Republicans, turnout at the 2016 caucuses greatly outnumbered the 2012 contest, which had about 122,000 voters. And in 2008, the turnout was similar, with 120,000 voters, making the 2024 Iowa caucuses turnout the lowest in more than a decade.

MSN

 

[Lesh]

In defense of Iowa Republicans, only 14% showed up and only half voted for the Orange wannabe God

 

[Mac1958]

Black Americans aren't surprised by white professed Christians because they've seen, actually witnessed this before...look at how they handled slavery.

That neat little "I can get away with this because I'm forgiven 'n stuff" loophole has always been a handy device.

 

[Winston]

Does the name you go by have, by chance, something to do with 1984?

Yes, I work at the Ministry of Truth.

 

[berg80]

Washington, Lincoln, Trump three of the greats!

Troll on, bro.

 

[martybegan]

In defense of Iowa Republicans, only 14% showed up and only half voted for the Orange wannabe God

It was a Caucus, not a primary. What is the average turnout for a caucus?

I doubt it is over 20%.

 

[berg80]

This phenomenon -- the way "Chrisitians" have sold their soul, and the soul of their religion, to a con man -- has been one of the most discouraging components of the orange era.

Tim Alberta has written a book from a horrified Christian perspective of this, below.

In a nutshell, his explanation from the inside is that these people have decided that it takes a barbarian to defeat a barbarian. So they have essentially deputized Trump as the beast to "defeat" what they consider to be "evil".

Some of these have convinced themselves that he is actually a Christian, but Alberta believes they're in the minority, that they've talked themselves into believing that essentially as a way to assuage their guilt over what they have done.

Meaning support for the orange adulterer among believers in the cloud fairy comes down to abortion.

 

[Lesh]

Meaning support for the orange adulterer among believers in the cloud fairy comes down to abortion.

Yup

 

[berg80]

Yes, I work at the Ministry of Truth.

I was just guessing you chose the name for a reason. If you did, I kinda like it. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[martybegan]

Yup

More than that. Forcing LGBT acceptance on them is a big issue for them.

Especially since SJW's have begun using schooling as an end run around parental rights.

What do the Dems offer Evangelicals besides scorn of them and gunning to convert their kids?

 

[Winston]

I was just guessing you chose the name for a reason. If you did, I kinda like it. Maybe I'm wrong.

I did choose it for a reason, and from 1984. I seek to highlight the truth, fight against disinformation. Like in this thread.

The Evangelical movement has always been about racism. It has always been about the loss of the WASP majority and power.

 

[martybegan]

I did choose it for a reason, and from 1984. I seek to highlight the truth, fight against disinformation. Like in this thread.

The Evangelical movement has always been about racism. It has always been about the loss of the WASP majority and power.

You are more of an O'Brien than a Winston.