CDZ Will any USMB abortion proponents admit that an abortion kills a child?

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    Just what the thread title says.

    I have participated on a lot of forums and debate sites for nearly 30 years now and though it is very rare, I have in fact encountered abortion proponents who are not afraid to admit that an abortion kills a child. They agree that an abortion denies prenatal children their rights while in the womb. . . etc. Their argument is simply that the rights of the mother trumps the rights of the child.

    Strange as it may seem, I actually have a bit more respect for those opponents - because we (at least) have some common ground on the biological facts, when and how life begins, etc.

    How about it?

    Anybody?
     
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    You might want to add the rights of the mother Trump that of the father which should be illegal as it's open bias and gives one gender the right to kill.
     
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    A friend of ours had their son come early at 6 months, weighing 2 lbs, 6 oz. He is a spry 16 yr old healthy teenager today.
     
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    Not all preemies are. Many live in terribly pain, only a sort time. So called "right to live" nutters know this but have no problem with torturing babies.
     
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    Why do I (why does anyone) even bother with a thread topic, anymore?
     
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    Whether or not a girl decides to have an abortion can present a difficult dilemma.
    I believe it is a decision for the pregnant girl alone. Some will want to consult family or a doctor but, in the end, I do not believe it is anyone's business but the pregnant girl's.

    Now, I would not think this way were I to believe life begins at conception. For me, a person begins at birth.
     
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    There ARE people who completely accept that life begins at conception but feel abortion should be kept legal anyway.

    Those are the people this thread is about and those are the people I am interested in having a discussion with.
     
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    If you'll admit that you do nothing to help the 24,000 children that die every single day around the world that could be saved with help.

    How about it?
     
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    I am not a proponent of abortion but I don't argue against the pulling the plug argument. Catching the Zita bug during pregnancy is not the mother's fault.
     
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    I pay taxes and I support not only the Government programs and laws that fight poverty, human trafficking and child exploitation around the world... I donate to private run charities as I can, as well.

    So, I honestly can not "admit" to doing "nothing" when I actually do "something." Do I do enough? Who's to say? Could I do more? Absolutely! We all could.

    Funny (weird actually) that you think YOUR ability to come clean about your beliefs are somehow tied to mine.
     
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