CDZ We need to modify not erase Confederate Memorials, Texas fought the civil war for slavery.

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  1. Toronado3800
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    I think people are going about the removal of the Confederate flags and Civil War memorials the wrong way.

    My POV is the war WAS fought to southerners could continue owning other humans. Sure someone may have thought they were defending Georgia or whatever but every time I turn around I get slapped by some form of 19th Century racism. Below are quotes from Texas' declaration of secession.

    SO, I think if we remove these symbols of hatred and bigotry future generations may not learn from the mistakes of the past. We need to as blatantly as possible modify the memorials to make them monuments to the Underground Railroad, the terribleness of slavery or whatever gets the point across.

    https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html
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    I don't think anyone is advocating not learning about the Confederacy and past mistakes.

    Since day one, my position has been in support of removing these statues because they seceded from our country. They broke from our union and were traitors.

    To make a statue of someone is to honor them, and Confederate figures do not deserve to be honored based on their actions.
     
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    The statues represent the thought that "too bad the Confederacy didn't win, we'd still have slavery and no one would tell us what to do".
     
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    Should we teach future generations that they too could be honored with statues if they lead a movement to secede from their country?
     
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    I really think the trick is to turn the statues into some kind of anti slavery memorials.

    Gotta be careful we don't create an Archie Bunker like hero of the bigots though.
     
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    Wrong.

    The statues of the rebel leaders can be moved to museums.

    This way people get to see the faces of these criminals.
     
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    Slavery was one of the reasons that Texas fought Mexico. Those brave chaps in the Alamo were fighting for slavery amongst other things.
     
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    When you think about it, it's kind of Ironic that we see Revolutionary war hero statues in the US. The only difference from the Civil War is we succeeded in seceding from Britain and the South lost.
     
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    One group fought for and founded our country.

    The other attempted to break us up.

    That is the difference.
     

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