Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

[Lesh]

If Biden et al would stop making deals with foreign enemies for millions of dollars and stealing classified documents out of the SCIF to store in the garage.

More lies?

Shame on you

 

[Mac1958]

It's as simple as that, folks.

It is, but they're going to stick to their ignorant talking points and refuse to read the indictment.

They. Don't. Want. To. Know.

 

[pknopp]

No, it’s bad when a Republican is targeted because he is the #1 opponent to the Biden Regime, while the DOJ protects, stonewalls, and makes weak excuses for people like Biden and Hillary.

All of the examples of the past two tiered justice is bad. But as you note, you only consider it bad now and only in this one instance.

Don't expect me to cry for you.

 

[Lisa558]

All of the examples of the past two tiered justice is bad. But as you note, you only consider it bad now and only in this one instance.

Don't expect me to cry for you.

Nope. It was never to this blatant an extreme before.

 

[pknopp]

I think it is rather disingenuous on Fox this morning they had pictures of two black rappers and Biden and the differences in their sentences. Besides the facts of the cases are different, of course the white guy gets a lighter sentence and before Biden the RWNJ's were just fine with it.

Examples after examples after examples were shown. Trump called those pointing it out SOB's. Now that the show is on the other foot it's bad.

Back the blue until it happens to you.

 

[jknowgood]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

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But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

Did Trump put classified documents in his unsecured office that Chinese officials had access to? Like Biden?

 

[beautress]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

​

But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

The only papers President Trump had were those that belonged to him. And you are pushing an idiotic lie. That's why the part of the judicial system that is truly o.k., because they knew the extent of the exaggerated Deep State lying taken out on Trump to cheat the American voters out of the truth. The truth was and is that President Trump did not break the laws by keeping his personal effects in boxes protected by the Secret Service. The Demonrat flunkies who went into his home with malice aforethought wrecked his orderly boxed papers, threw them all over the floor and then took photographic "proof" that President Trump was slovenly, when it was actually their predetermined agenda to make President Trump look bad. The Commie press helped by extending the lie to their big-eyed followers who allow themselves to be played by vociferous vipers. I think that those who lied and bore the lie to the front pages should step aside from their lies and either straighten up and fly right or get out of the lying society's business so we can restore integrity into the MSM. The FBI is up for reform when Biden's claws are out of the WH. I have no idea when that will be.

 

[mak2]

Did Trump put classified documents in his unsecured office that Chinese officials had access to? Like Biden?

Well, you know, the bathroom aint much better. And Chinese nationals have been arrested at Trumps place, so you need to change your whataboutism.

 

[Lesh]

Did Trump put classified documents in his unsecured office that Chinese officials had access to? Like Biden?

He did indeed. A Chinese spy was CAUGHT at Mar A Lago and there was little if any security on those docs

The only papers President Trump had were those that belonged to him.

That's stupid and insane. A private citizen does not and can never "own" nuclear secrets

 

[Lisa558]

Did Trump put classified documents in his unsecured office that Chinese officials had access to? Like Biden?

…. or did he destroy classified documents under subpoena? Like Hillary?

…. or did he hide material he took in his sock drawer? Like Bill Clinton?

The ARROGANCE by which the weaponized DOJ gives excuses to Democrats and targets the political opposition is something that one would expect from North Korea, not the United States of America.

 

[Lisa558]

Well, you know, the bathroom aint much better. And Chinese nationals have been arrested at Trumps place, so you need to change your whataboutism.

So if Trump’s bathroom ain’t much better than Biden’s garage, why the midnight raid on Trump, leading to an indictment, and a 2-week advance notice to Biden, so he could clear out the most incriminating docs?

 

[mak2]

…. or did he destroy classified documents under subpoena? Like Hillary?

…. or did he hide material he took in his sock drawer? Like Bill Clinton?

The ARROGANCE by which the weaponized DOJ gives excuses to Democrats and targets the political opposition is something that one would expect from North Korea, not the United States of America.

Perhaps we can just number the RWNJs whatabouts. For example, when the RWers want to talk about Clintons sock drawer we can label it #1. Hillary's bleach bit #2, Obama's chinese laundry #3 and so on. It will save the a lot of time and all are equally meaningless.

 

[mak2]

So if Trump’s bathroom ain’t much better than Biden’s garage, why the midnight raid on Trump, leading to an indictment, and a 2-week advance notice to Biden, so he could clear out the most incriminating docs?

Trump would not return the documents, Biden and Pence did. See the difference?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Perhaps we can just number the RWNJs whatabouts. For example, when the RWers want to talk about Clintons sock drawer we can label it #1. Hillary's bleach bit #2, Obama's chinese laundry #3 and so on. It will save the a lot of time and all are equally meaningless.

How are they "meaningless"???????
Because YOU say so?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Trump would not return the documents, Biden and Pence did. See the difference?

Biden STOLE classified documents as a SENATOR!!!!!
He returned them after DECADES!!!
Your GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT is not going to change those FACTS!

 

[pknopp]

…. or did he destroy classified documents under subpoena? Like Hillary?

…. or did he hide material he took in his sock drawer? Like Bill Clinton?

The ARROGANCE by which the weaponized DOJ gives excuses to Democrats and targets the political opposition is something that one would expect from North Korea, not the United States of America.

OR, did the Biden administration do the work to bring charges while Trump sat up at night calling people names as opposed to following up on what you noted?

You expect Biden to go after Hillary when Trump couldn't be bothered to do it?

 

[mak2]

How are they "meaningless"???????
Because YOU say so?

No, because even they are right, and the circumstances of both are exactly the same, lets say Pence's documents were military secretes and he would not give them back, and tried to hide them from a supenoea, and the DOJ decided not to prosecute Mike, lets say because it is late Friday afternoon and they don't want to do the paperwork, it does not make Trump any more or less guilty.

 

[mak2]

Biden STOLE classified documents as a SENATOR!!!!!
He returned them after DECADES!!!
Your GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT is not going to change those FACTS!

Hey, you think Trump's jedi knight mind declassification powers were cool, Biden does that too, but BIden can do it retroactively.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Hey, you think Trump's jedi knight mind declassification powers were cool, Biden does that too, but BIden can do it retroactively.

Lol, more GASLIGHTING from a cuktist.
You funny!

 

[mak2]

Lol, more GASLIGHTING from a cuktist.
You funny!

And Trump cannot mind control classified status of nuclear secrets either. He just can't. By the way, if he could the judge would not have had to get his attorneys security clearances.