Why the story about Stormy Daniels is more of a scandal than just an affair

Donald Trump's Long, Strange History of Using Fake Names

All political candidates use some spin to advance their cause. It is now so common that voters come to expect it. As a businessman, Donald Trump long practiced an extreme version of self-promotion he called “truthful hyperbole” to get what he wanted. Now, as he is the presumptive GOP nominee for president, this past is coming back to haunt him.

Donald Trump's Long, Strange History of Using Fake Names



Analysis | The 7 most interesting aspects of Stormy Daniels’s lawsuit against Trump




The full lawsuit is 28 pages and includes the alleged nondisclosure agreement. Below, I've isolated the key parts. (Note that the lawsuit refers to Daniels by her real name, Stephanie Clifford.)

"2. Defendant Donald J. Trump a.k.a. David Dennison ('Mr. Trump'), an individual, is a resident of the District of Columbia (among other places). ...

"18. By design of Mr. Cohen, the Hush Agreement used aliases to refer to Ms. Clifford and Mr. Trump. Specifically, Ms. Clifford was referred to by the alias 'Peggy Peterson' or 'PP.' Mr. Trump, on the other hand, was referred to by the alias 'David Dennison' or 'DD.' ”

And the “Carlos Danger” saga all comes rushing back. Expect plenty of “David Dennison” jokes going forward.

The aliases were used in the nondisclosure agreement to protect the parties involved. The people to whom they referred were identified in another document attached to Daniels's lawsuit, although Dennison's real name is redacted in it.

"9. Ms. Clifford began an intimate relationship with Mr. Trump in the Summer of 2006 in Lake Tahoe and continued her relationship with Mr. Trump well into the year 2007. This relationship included, among other things, at least one 'meeting' with Mr. Trump in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel located within Los Angeles County.”

In some ways, this lawsuit seems to be a way for Daniels to put her side of the story into the public record without directly telling it. Here, she confirms details about the alleged affair that she previously shared with InTouch magazine in a 2011 interview that wasn't published until recently.

I believe President Trump needs a good porn star name after all this hullabaloo. How about "Long Dong Donald"?

"Dong Daddy Warbucks"?

"Donald Dick"?

"Donaldus Maximus"?
 
"13. Within days of the publication of the Access Hollywood Tape, several women came forward publicly to tell their personal stories about their sexual encounters with Mr. Trump.

"14. Around this time, Ms. Clifford likewise sought to share details concerning her relationship and encounters with Mr. Trump with various media outlets.”

This also confirms previously reported details. But it's the first time Daniels has confirmed that she was shopping her story before the election. She has publicly been coy about the whole thing, apparently because of the nondisclosure agreement.

"16. After discovering Ms. Clifford's plans, Mr. Trump, with the assistance of his attorney Mr. Cohen, aggressively sought to silence Ms. Clifford as part of an effort to avoid her telling the truth, thus helping to ensure he won the Presidential Election. Mr. Cohen subsequently prepared a draft nondisclosure agreement and presented it to Ms. Clifford and her attorney (the 'Hush Agreement').”

Two points here: First, this is Daniels alleging that Trump was personally involved — something the White House and Cohen have declined to confirm or deny (despite the Journal's reporting). And second, she alleges that the effort was geared toward aiding Trump's election. That may seem like a given, because it happened just before Election Day, but as The Washington Post's Philip Bump has reported, the payment is more legally problematic if it was clearly for this purpose.




"22. On or about October 28, 2016, only days before the election, two of the parties signed the Hush Agreement — Ms. Clifford and Mr. Cohen (on behalf of EC). Mr. Trump, however, did not sign the agreement, thus rendering it legally null and void and of no consequence. On information and belief, despite having detailed knowledge of the Hush Agreement and its terms, including the proposed payment of monies to Ms. Clifford and the routing of those monies through EC, Mr. Trump purposely did not sign the agreement so he could later, if need be, publicly disavow any knowledge of the Hush Agreement and Ms. Clifford.”
 
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That's funny 'cause the right sure did give a fuck when Clinton was caught having an affair, which they also said, was not about the affair but that he broke the law. Well it looks like Trump may have as well.

Clinton was dumb enough to lie about it, and also poor form on him getting blown by a Long Island "4".


He's the President. Kennedy had Monroe, Clinton settled for a dumpy proto-housewife.
And I'm sure that will be Trump's defense if it can be proven he violated campaign finance laws.
 
got a link stating he paid her for sex,


or just one stating he paid her to keep quiet?


Well, you're "correct" the money was paid to keep Daniels quiet.......

Do you wonder WHY Trump wanted her paid to keep quiet???...........I mean, since Trump ass-kissers actually admire trump's affairs, why pay some one to keep quiet????............lol
 
got a link stating he paid her for sex,


or just one stating he paid her to keep quiet?


Well, you're "correct" the money was paid to keep Daniels quiet.......

Do you wonder WHY Trump wanted her paid to keep quiet???...........I mean, since Trump ass-kissers actually admire trump's affairs, why pay some one to keep quiet????............lol
bud, after Clinton, you got no room to talk.

why pay someone to keep quiet?

How many did HE pay to keep quiet?

after all, he and Hillary left the WH broke, according to them.

Must have paid off dozens, if not hundreds, to keep quiet.

(Maybe they still are paying)
 
there have been hookers since the beginning of humans
there is nothing wrong with it
when you LIE about your sexual encounters under oath and to the WHOLE nation--then your are a scumbag--like Bill C
Trump lied to us about this one, so it sure raises the question of what other ones he is also lying about (such as the 19 women who have alleged sexual harassment or worse and were roundly ignored).
That's the only take away for me. I don't care about his affair or how much he paid to hush it up. It's a stretch to call it a campaign expense; more partisan noise. But the clear lying--he's caught in the act this time, isn't he?
 
there have been hookers since the beginning of humans
there is nothing wrong with it
when you LIE about your sexual encounters under oath and to the WHOLE nation--then your are a scumbag--like Bill C
Trump lied to us about this one, so it sure raises the question of what other ones he is also lying about (such as the 19 women who have alleged sexual harassment or worse and were roundly ignored).
That's the only take away for me. I don't care about his affair or how much he paid to hush it up. It's a stretch to call it a campaign expense; more partisan noise. But the clear lying--he's caught in the act this time, isn't he?
please link
and not under oath as Billy did
This crime is taken very seriously because the foundation of the legal system depends on trust and credibility.
Perjury - FindLaw
 
As the Trump ass-kissers rally around Trump actually praising him for paying $130,000 to a hooker to get laid.....and the hypocritical so-called evangelicals scramble to find the Bible passage to justify the orange buffoon's cheating on his wife......the REAL story is not about an illicit affair BUT about the breaches in campaign finance laws........
This entire mess was probably started by Mueller's investigators subpoena of the bank's records on Cohen's check to Daniels....

Read and learn.


Stormy Daniels' lawsuit raises election law questions for Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/...stormy-daniels...trump-campaign...broke-election.../4038...
2 days ago - Stormy Daniels' suit claiming a 'hush' agreement from Donald Trump may help case about election violations, but she still could lose her court fight. ... claims that the $130,000 payment for her silence about an alleged affair likely violated federal election laws, campaign-finance watchdogs said Wednesday.

Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump ...
Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump
14 hours ago - But the lawsuit she filed this week, seeking to break a 2016 agreement to keep silent in return for a $130,000 payout, opens what could be a ... also provide evidence of campaign spendingviolations, which would bolster a pending Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Trump'scampaign.

What We Learned From Stormy Daniels's Lawsuit Against Trump
nymag.com/daily/.../what-we-learned-from-stormy-danielss-lawsuit-against-trump.ht...
2 days ago - If Cohen intended to silence Clifford to aid Trump politically (rather than, say, keeping the affair from Melania Trump), that could violate campaign finance laws. Even if the payment came fromTrump, he might have failed to properly disclose it. Democratic Reps. Ted Lieu and Kathleen Rice, both former ...

Trump payoff to Stormy Daniels warrants federal investigation - NY ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../trump-payoff-stormy-daniels-warrants-federal-investigation-a...
2 days ago - By failing to report the payment as a campaign expense, the Trump campaign violated multiple federal disclosure laws. And depending on the source of the $130,000 paid to Daniels, thepayment may also have been an illegal contribution. If the funds came from a corporation like theTrump Organization, ...

Trump lawyer complained he wasn't reimbursed for Stormy Daniels ...
thehill.com/.../376791-trump-lawyer-complained-he-wasnt-reimbursed-for-payment-t...
4 days ago - President Trump's lawyer complained to friends following the 2016 election that he had not been reimbursed for his payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, ... Michael Cohen paid Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement that ensuredshe would not ...
Trump Lawyer's Porn Star Payoff Could Have Broken the Law. But It ...
time.com › Politics › White House
Feb 14, 2018 - Campaign finance experts say that a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels arranged by Donald Trump's personal lawyer could have broken the law, but it's unlikely that it will lead to any legal consequences. Trump's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, conceded Tuesday night that he arranged for ....

Translation-
“Affair” isn’t working....let’s switch gears and dub it a “SCANDAL”
Oh boy you wack-jobs are so fun to watch.
 
That's funny 'cause the right sure did give a fuck when Clinton was caught having an affair, which they also said, was not about the affair but that he broke the law. Well it looks like Trump may have as well.

Clinton was dumb enough to lie about it, and also poor form on him getting blown by a Long Island "4".


He's the President. Kennedy had Monroe, Clinton settled for a dumpy proto-housewife.
And I'm sure that will be Trump's defense if it can be proven he violated campaign finance laws.

All the theories listed by the OP are just that, theories.

notice the repeated use of the words "may, could, might"
 
As the Trump ass-kissers rally around Trump actually praising him for paying $130,000 to a hooker to get laid.....and the hypocritical so-called evangelicals scramble to find the Bible passage to justify the orange buffoon's cheating on his wife......the REAL story is not about an illicit affair BUT about the breaches in campaign finance laws........
This entire mess was probably started by Mueller's investigators subpoena of the bank's records on Cohen's check to Daniels....

Read and learn.


Stormy Daniels' lawsuit raises election law questions for Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/...stormy-daniels...trump-campaign...broke-election.../4038...
2 days ago - Stormy Daniels' suit claiming a 'hush' agreement from Donald Trump may help case about election violations, but she still could lose her court fight. ... claims that the $130,000 payment for her silence about an alleged affair likely violated federal election laws, campaign-finance watchdogs said Wednesday.

Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump ...
Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump
14 hours ago - But the lawsuit she filed this week, seeking to break a 2016 agreement to keep silent in return for a $130,000 payout, opens what could be a ... also provide evidence of campaign spendingviolations, which would bolster a pending Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Trump'scampaign.

What We Learned From Stormy Daniels's Lawsuit Against Trump
nymag.com/daily/.../what-we-learned-from-stormy-danielss-lawsuit-against-trump.ht...
2 days ago - If Cohen intended to silence Clifford to aid Trump politically (rather than, say, keeping the affair from Melania Trump), that could violate campaign finance laws. Even if the payment came fromTrump, he might have failed to properly disclose it. Democratic Reps. Ted Lieu and Kathleen Rice, both former ...

Trump payoff to Stormy Daniels warrants federal investigation - NY ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../trump-payoff-stormy-daniels-warrants-federal-investigation-a...
2 days ago - By failing to report the payment as a campaign expense, the Trump campaign violated multiple federal disclosure laws. And depending on the source of the $130,000 paid to Daniels, thepayment may also have been an illegal contribution. If the funds came from a corporation like theTrump Organization, ...

Trump lawyer complained he wasn't reimbursed for Stormy Daniels ...
thehill.com/.../376791-trump-lawyer-complained-he-wasnt-reimbursed-for-payment-t...
4 days ago - President Trump's lawyer complained to friends following the 2016 election that he had not been reimbursed for his payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, ... Michael Cohen paid Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement that ensuredshe would not ...
Trump Lawyer's Porn Star Payoff Could Have Broken the Law. But It ...
time.com › Politics › White House
Feb 14, 2018 - Campaign finance experts say that a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels arranged by Donald Trump's personal lawyer could have broken the law, but it's unlikely that it will lead to any legal consequences. Trump's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, conceded Tuesday night that he arranged for ....

even if it were just an affair, I seem to remember them impeaching bill Clinton for a blow job
 
As the Trump ass-kissers rally around Trump actually praising him for paying $130,000 to a hooker to get laid.....and the hypocritical so-called evangelicals scramble to find the Bible passage to justify the orange buffoon's cheating on his wife......the REAL story is not about an illicit affair BUT about the breaches in campaign finance laws........
This entire mess was probably started by Mueller's investigators subpoena of the bank's records on Cohen's check to Daniels....

Read and learn.


Stormy Daniels' lawsuit raises election law questions for Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/...stormy-daniels...trump-campaign...broke-election.../4038...
2 days ago - Stormy Daniels' suit claiming a 'hush' agreement from Donald Trump may help case about election violations, but she still could lose her court fight. ... claims that the $130,000 payment for her silence about an alleged affair likely violated federal election laws, campaign-finance watchdogs said Wednesday.

Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump ...
Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump
14 hours ago - But the lawsuit she filed this week, seeking to break a 2016 agreement to keep silent in return for a $130,000 payout, opens what could be a ... also provide evidence of campaign spendingviolations, which would bolster a pending Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Trump'scampaign.

What We Learned From Stormy Daniels's Lawsuit Against Trump
nymag.com/daily/.../what-we-learned-from-stormy-danielss-lawsuit-against-trump.ht...
2 days ago - If Cohen intended to silence Clifford to aid Trump politically (rather than, say, keeping the affair from Melania Trump), that could violate campaign finance laws. Even if the payment came fromTrump, he might have failed to properly disclose it. Democratic Reps. Ted Lieu and Kathleen Rice, both former ...

Trump payoff to Stormy Daniels warrants federal investigation - NY ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../trump-payoff-stormy-daniels-warrants-federal-investigation-a...
2 days ago - By failing to report the payment as a campaign expense, the Trump campaign violated multiple federal disclosure laws. And depending on the source of the $130,000 paid to Daniels, thepayment may also have been an illegal contribution. If the funds came from a corporation like theTrump Organization, ...

Trump lawyer complained he wasn't reimbursed for Stormy Daniels ...
thehill.com/.../376791-trump-lawyer-complained-he-wasnt-reimbursed-for-payment-t...
4 days ago - President Trump's lawyer complained to friends following the 2016 election that he had not been reimbursed for his payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, ... Michael Cohen paid Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement that ensuredshe would not ...
Trump Lawyer's Porn Star Payoff Could Have Broken the Law. But It ...
time.com › Politics › White House
Feb 14, 2018 - Campaign finance experts say that a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels arranged by Donald Trump's personal lawyer could have broken the law, but it's unlikely that it will lead to any legal consequences. Trump's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, conceded Tuesday night that he arranged for ....

even if it were just an affair, I seem to remember them impeaching bill Clinton for a blow job

No, they impeached him for lying about it under oath.
 
after all, he and Hillary left the WH broke, according to them.

Must have paid off dozens, if not hundreds, to keep quiet.

(Maybe they still are paying)

Sure, I'm sure the Clintons are paying off folks on some installment plan....like a mortgage or car payments......I'm sure you're correct.
 
As the Trump ass-kissers rally around Trump actually praising him for paying $130,000 to a hooker to get laid.....and the hypocritical so-called evangelicals scramble to find the Bible passage to justify the orange buffoon's cheating on his wife......the REAL story is not about an illicit affair BUT about the breaches in campaign finance laws........
This entire mess was probably started by Mueller's investigators subpoena of the bank's records on Cohen's check to Daniels....

Read and learn.


Stormy Daniels' lawsuit raises election law questions for Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/...stormy-daniels...trump-campaign...broke-election.../4038...
2 days ago - Stormy Daniels' suit claiming a 'hush' agreement from Donald Trump may help case about election violations, but she still could lose her court fight. ... claims that the $130,000 payment for her silence about an alleged affair likely violated federal election laws, campaign-finance watchdogs said Wednesday.

Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump ...
Stormy Daniels Lawsuit Opens Door to Further Trouble for Trump
14 hours ago - But the lawsuit she filed this week, seeking to break a 2016 agreement to keep silent in return for a $130,000 payout, opens what could be a ... also provide evidence of campaign spendingviolations, which would bolster a pending Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Trump'scampaign.

What We Learned From Stormy Daniels's Lawsuit Against Trump
nymag.com/daily/.../what-we-learned-from-stormy-danielss-lawsuit-against-trump.ht...
2 days ago - If Cohen intended to silence Clifford to aid Trump politically (rather than, say, keeping the affair from Melania Trump), that could violate campaign finance laws. Even if the payment came fromTrump, he might have failed to properly disclose it. Democratic Reps. Ted Lieu and Kathleen Rice, both former ...

Trump payoff to Stormy Daniels warrants federal investigation - NY ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../trump-payoff-stormy-daniels-warrants-federal-investigation-a...
2 days ago - By failing to report the payment as a campaign expense, the Trump campaign violated multiple federal disclosure laws. And depending on the source of the $130,000 paid to Daniels, thepayment may also have been an illegal contribution. If the funds came from a corporation like theTrump Organization, ...

Trump lawyer complained he wasn't reimbursed for Stormy Daniels ...
thehill.com/.../376791-trump-lawyer-complained-he-wasnt-reimbursed-for-payment-t...
4 days ago - President Trump's lawyer complained to friends following the 2016 election that he had not been reimbursed for his payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, ... Michael Cohen paid Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement that ensuredshe would not ...
Trump Lawyer's Porn Star Payoff Could Have Broken the Law. But It ...
time.com › Politics › White House
Feb 14, 2018 - Campaign finance experts say that a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels arranged by Donald Trump's personal lawyer could have broken the law, but it's unlikely that it will lead to any legal consequences. Trump's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, conceded Tuesday night that he arranged for ....

even if it were just an affair, I seem to remember them impeaching bill Clinton for a blow job

No, they impeached him for lying about it under oath.

for lying about an affair, idiota. let's put Donald on the witness stand, get him deposed and watch *him* lie.

dishonest twit.
 
even if it were just an affair, I seem to remember them impeaching bill Clinton for a blow job


Well, watch Trump ass-kissers begin claiming that Clinton paid off Monica to keep quiet.......lol
 
No, they impeached him for lying about it under oath.


What about lying about an affair with a hooker (oooops, pardon me, a porn star") after the NDA fell apart?.....Should THAT invoke an impeachment hearing?
 

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