Admiral Rockwell Tory
Diamond Member
Can you make chicken salad out of chicken shit?
If not, stop expecting teachers to do just that, and stop sending students that are nothing more than chicken shit!
Can you read? If you can't, then stop posting. If you can, then you should know your dumb as crap post, doesn't fit with what I said. Listen to what your parents should have taught you, and listen twice as much as you speak. Two ears, one mouth... for a reason..... Shut up, and grow up. Start acting like an adult, and think before you type idiot.
You are just pissed because you have been found guilty of talking smack!
No, I get tired of dealing with fools who don't even read. I enjoy an adult conversations. However that involves talking to other adults, not blithering morons who don't even read what was written, and respond without thinking, and come across as a jerk that likes the sounds of his own voice.
I read, and you just have your preconceived notions that are wrong or outdated by 30 years.
You keep confusing alternative schools with charter schools. Why is that? The statement was about alternative schools and you countered with private and charter schools.
Look at this:
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5. I don't know a single teacher (and I literally know 50-60, and know hundreds in passing) that is against alternative schools
You say that, and yet I read about teachers being against charter and private schools, routinely."
You also keep talking about teacher strikes after you have been shown repeatedly that teacher strikes are illegal almost everywhere. Are you stupid or can you not read?
Most teachers do not like charter schools for one reason and one reason only. They are exempt from all of the rules that make teaching harder in public schools.
I have shown you repeatedly that the reason students struggle in school is they are poor.
Poor students make for poor students.
When Florida was testing all students and I worked there, in graduate school, I created a chart showing the school grades compared to the socioeconomic status of the average student in the district. It was an almost one for match for every school in the district, which was over 100 schools. Schools graded "A" had higher incomes and "F" schools were the inner city schools with kids on welfare. Are you shocked by that revelation? Teachers have known it for years.
The answers to your questions are in these posts, but you are simply an asshole who refuses to accept the truth.
Now, find someone who teaches that honestly disagrees with the points I have made.
Poor students make for poor students.
Nah, bull crap. I don't buy it.
I think people that make that claim are simply looking at numbers, and not cultural values.
A poor kid that has a big work ethic, and a drive to succeed, can do just as well as a rich kid.
The bottom line is not their families income bracket. The bottom line is the work ethic their respective families instill in them.
I've seen poor kids that greatly outperformed myself, and I've seen rich kids that were lazy as snot.
Now typically, a family that is wealthy, is wealthy because they work hard. That hard work ethic is often passed on to the kids. But there is nothing that makes a poor person impossible to teach.
And even then......... That doesn't change the reality that there is a problem.
I said in the prior post.....
During my Junior year, I was unfortunate enough to go to an inner city school for half a day. It was a huge mistake. I was sitting next to a guy who was in my grade, who asked me how to do a simple long division problem. Something along the lines of 3 divide by 7. I looked at him like he was insane. Pulled out a pen and paper, and he stopped me "No, I mean on this calculator", and slid it over to me.A several teachers over several years, had to passed that kid. How did someone without 7th grade math, get into 11th grade? Because teachers did a lousy job, and passed a guy who was uneducated.
And if that kid was simply refusing to learn, he should have never been accepted into high school, and certainly no teachers should have allowed him to graduate from 10th grade. Somewhere, a teacher is at fault for him reaching the 11th grade without basic 7th grade math skills.
California: Straight-A high school student not ready for college
How are straight A students ending up in remedial classes in college? Because the teaching system is broken, and needs replaced. Bad teachers, bad policies, bad school system... I don't care what your excuses are... it should be impossible for a kid with straight As, to end up in remedial classes in college.
Your system.... SUCKS. That's a fact. So stop giving me your excuses. Endless excuses for this failing system.
You also keep talking about teacher strikes after you have been shown repeatedly that teacher strikes are illegal almost everywhere.
Denver: Teachers will start strike Monday, after negotiations end - CNN
Fail much?
Most teachers do not like charter schools for one reason and one reason only. They are exempt from all of the rules that make teaching harder in public schools.
Which is more important: Having students get a better education? Or being envious that others schools don't have the rules that hinder your school?
If what you said was true, then should not teachers be pushing to reduce the rules on public schools to match charter schools, so that all the students have a better education? If your system is worse than another system, should you push that the other system be more like yours? Or should you push for your system to be more like theirs?
If you are telling me the only reason teachers are against charter schools, is not because of the quality of education, but because of envy that charter schools have more freedom to provide better education.... than that makes teachers terrible self-centered trash that don't care about their students.
You keep confusing alternative schools with charter schools. Why is that? The statement was about alternative schools and you countered with private and charter schools.
I don't see a difference. Anything that gives students more options to escape a failing system, is good. Teachers should be open and accepting of ANY option that allows students to get a better education.
Saying you'll only allow or support, one specific type of school that you approve of, is exactly how we ended up with the problems we have. Where we are right now in education as a society, is due to this "you can only get an education we approve of you getting" ideology. We need to end that attitude.
I want people to have the freedom to choose whatever education they want, the only limitations being to meet the bare minimum reading, writing, and arithmetic. Parents will naturally gravitate to the best education they can get, on their own, without some self-appointed arrogant overseers passing edicts on what is good.
Poor students make poor students. You better buy it because it is true and there are reams of data that support that. Of course there will be exceptions. Most poor students are chickenshit.
You bitch about me saying I cannot read and yet you provide a link that proves ONE district strikes. That doesn't dispute what I said one bit. Teacher strikes are illegal in almost every school district in the country. I have never worked in a district where it was legal because the federal government and both states forbid it. Now, push the "I believe" button and stop being stupid.
You say you don't see the difference in alternative schools, charter schools and private schools. That is just further proof that you refuse to learn. You were probably a chickenshit student because like in your example, you refuse to learn.
Your ignorance is 100% willful.
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