Mikeoxenormous
Diamond Member
Yes, Winter, I hated Bush 41 and 43, because like those establishment pukes, lied to US then threw US some candy to keep people quiet. I didn't like Bush 43 because he created with Ted Kennedy, the "No Child Left Behind Act" and that failed. He created the DOHS, because Jamie Gorelick blocked the FBI from talking with the CIA(911 happened because of it) and instead of bringing that wall down, threw billions more to created the failed DOHS. Then those on the right were saying not to bail out the automotive groups, let them fail, because with restructuring those companies can get rid of their failures and make themselves better, but alas, Obummer was elected and continued on with the payments to the unions, and left the middle class stock owners with worthless pieces of papers.. Yeah, that really went over with the middle class and their slow destruction. Yes, liberals (R) and (D) are establishment pukes only out for themselves, and could care less for those who aren't the liberal elites, just look at where Warren Buffet is now as supposedly Obummer was against the rich.the only reason why GM got their bailouts was because Obummer didn't want to hurt the union workers, the whole reason why GM went under. Once GM became Government Motors, no longer were Saturns being made(their best cars because Unions weren't part of it) Hummers went away,(Big Profits) because they used more gas than a volt, and any dealer that didn't vote for Obummer were no longer allowed to receive any new cars. That was pretty Communistic wasn't it WB?I have nothing against innovation. But every single EV sold is subsidized by our taxes. If the EVs can't compete in the market place on their own merits, they shouldn't be sold.
You mean like the bailout of GM? And that was due to their own crappy business practices.
Yes, it was. But are you really blaming Obama alone for this fiasco?? If so you need to check your facts. George W. started the whole bailout thing. They took $25 billion from a programs aimed at getting more energy efficient vehicles produced and gave it to GM. Then they took another $25 billion from TARP.
My point is that the money spent on the bailout makes the tax dollars spent on Tesla look like chump change. And at least Tesla is coming up with something that will help.