Why Rural America Voted for Trump

[sealybobo]

I'm right about everything. I'm talking to an ignorant hick.

Funny we should all chip in so you can have internet but we shouldn't chip in so poor people can have insurance. Interesting

If I'm the ignorant one, why is it you are the one who has no fucking idea what the fuck he is talking about.

Ignorant AND arrogant...even I have proved you wrong again and again...you still cling to the backward assumption in your unfathomable nescience...you are somehow superior. Keep clinging brother. So far you're batting zero.

No YOU don't know what I'm talking about.

Why should we all chip in so your farm has high speed internet. Why don't you pay a corporation to run the wire out to your home same way I pay for my own healthcare?

This should not be governments role. If you approve of this don't be a cheap ass on all the other liberal spending ideas that come out of government. Don't cry about the debt. Fucking hypocrites.

And 20 posts in you still don't get my point but some guy popped in and got it right away. So you must be stupid. Either that or you were pretending to be ignorant. I don't think you were pretending.

When it's this hard to get you to even see the point I was trying to make I'm done with your stupid ass.

I also love hearing you guys defend government doing for these Hicks what corporations are unwilling to do because it's not profitable. We should just let the free market decide. No internet for Hicks.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans don't mind forcing us city folk to pay for their sorry asses.

The Broadband Connections for Rural Opportunities Program Act is meant to close the rural digital divide by providing new federal grants for high-speed broadband buildouts to supplement the money already available through the USDA's Rural Utilities Service.

It would also double the RUS broadband program funding to $50 million.

Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) have introduced a bill to boost rural broadband in rural and tribal areas.

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

And you use foreign countries post offices? Get out of here you dumb Greek. And shave your God damn eyebrows

 

[sealybobo]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???

If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)

Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.

The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.

I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The article essentially says that rural Americans voted for Trump because he had the 'R' on his jersey,

and rural Americans generally vote Republican.

Was that YOUR point?

 

[Rustic]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The article essentially says that rural Americans voted for Trump because he had the 'R' on his jersey,

and rural Americans generally vote Republican.

Was that YOUR point?

Urban people should not be telling rural people how to vote...

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The article essentially says that rural Americans voted for Trump because he had the 'R' on his jersey,

and rural Americans generally vote Republican.

Was that YOUR point?

Urban people should not be telling rural people how to vote...

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

 

[sealybobo]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The article essentially says that rural Americans voted for Trump because he had the 'R' on his jersey,

and rural Americans generally vote Republican.

Was that YOUR point?

Urban people should not be telling rural people how to vote...

Visa versa

 

[Meathead]

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

And you use foreign countries post offices? Get out of here you dumb Greek. And shave your God damn eyebrows

Is there something wrong with you, outside of being an asshole I mean? I've spent about 40 years of my life outside the US. Do you think I've used foreign post offices?

It goes beyond being a mere butt-hurt malaka.

 

[Correll]

Same reason why Rural parts of Afghanistan supports the taliban and Rural Egypt voted for the muslim brotherhood. You're stuck in the far past.

You just ignored information presented to you from a friendly source. That is not rational.

 

[Correll]

Although Donald Trump is a minority president-elect, those who did vote for him are products of public schools in poor states.

Poor people voted for change? What a scandal! How bad of them!

 

[Dragonlady]

Republicans don't mind forcing us city folk to pay for their sorry asses.

The Broadband Connections for Rural Opportunities Program Act is meant to close the rural digital divide by providing new federal grants for high-speed broadband buildouts to supplement the money already available through the USDA's Rural Utilities Service.

It would also double the RUS broadband program funding to $50 million.

Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) have introduced a bill to boost rural broadband in rural and tribal areas.

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

 

[Meathead]

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017

 

[JBond]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Rural people are typically conservative. But they're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to politics. They are easily manipulated by candidates like Trump who make all kinds of promises--delivering the ear candy--and they typically know very little about the government and how it actually works. I doubt many of them could even tell you what the 3 branches of government are, let alone their constitutional authority.

This article hits it on the nail.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains

America refused to back a lying piece of shit. The Dems should have backed Jim Webb.

 

[Dragonlady]

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017

Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.

 

[Meathead]

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017

Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.

Of course i make comments without insulting people. But an uninformed dingbat is not unduly harsh in this case nor is profanity-laced. It's not a safe space sweety.

 

[sealybobo]

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017

That's not even the point. Of course you probably are purposely missing the point. Don't worry, I know other people who aren't trying to miss the point got it.

 

[sealybobo]

Lighten up with the butt hurt malaka!

I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.

I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.

But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.

It's a pretty asinine point regardless.

Canada

You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017

Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.

Don't worry he's a malaka.

Malaka is the greek way of saying wanker. ... Greek term for someone who has jerked off so many times that his brain has become soft, and he is now an idiot. In everyday speech, the word malakas is used metaphorically to mean a person who uses no common sense.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I love how these farmers act like they ain't takers .

Playa please ! Two words "Farm Bill".

Is there even another industry that gets more gov breaks than farming ???

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...cles/2016-03-31/farm-bill-costs-are-exploding

Farmers don't get those deals you moron. Massive farming corporations do. Have you had your head so far up your ass you never heard of the death of the family farm? Some singer actually held a benefit concert for it called Farm Aid.

Let's say you are right . Then why vote for the GOP ? They would say "business is business , sorry family farm."

Why couldn't these guys see that's the point I'm trying to make? You got it but they were incapable of getting that. So how do you discuss things with people who either purposely or ignorantly refuse to see the point you are trying to make.

I'm not even against the idea. I'm wondering why Republicans aren't up in arms. This is federal government over reach. It's unconstitutional. And it's forcing me to pay for something just like obamacare

I find righties have blinders on for what they get out of the gov. It's everyone else that's getting benefits . Not them .

And now that you pointed out my point the righties go silent.

No matter because they wouldn't reply with honesty anyways so I'm going to move on. I'm glad they went on and on for a couple pages not getting the point I was trying to make and then you popped in and got it right away.

It's funny to read all the things they wanted to think I was saying but they couldn't wrap their brains around the idea that they're being hypocrites wanting us to pay so farmers can have high speed internet but then they don't want to pay so poor people can have healthcare.

One of the stupid fuckers had the balls to make the argument that every other civilized country has one postal rate. Well doesn't every other country have national healthcare?

We've been saying for years to get rid of the subsidies. That alone would help family farms compete with the bigger ones. As for the rest of your diatribe shove it up your ass.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Rural people are typically conservative. But they're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to politics. They are easily manipulated by candidates like Trump who make all kinds of promises--delivering the ear candy--and they typically know very little about the government and how it actually works. I doubt many of them could even tell you what the 3 branches of government are, let alone their constitutional authority.

This article hits it on the nail.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains

Yes, by all means keep this crap up. It is working for you don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Get out there and yell as loud as you can about how dumb Trump voters are. Do it hourly across the nation. You'll have all of them voting dem next time trust me.

 

[sealybobo]

Farmers don't get those deals you moron. Massive farming corporations do. Have you had your head so far up your ass you never heard of the death of the family farm? Some singer actually held a benefit concert for it called Farm Aid.

Let's say you are right . Then why vote for the GOP ? They would say "business is business , sorry family farm."

Why couldn't these guys see that's the point I'm trying to make? You got it but they were incapable of getting that. So how do you discuss things with people who either purposely or ignorantly refuse to see the point you are trying to make.

I'm not even against the idea. I'm wondering why Republicans aren't up in arms. This is federal government over reach. It's unconstitutional. And it's forcing me to pay for something just like obamacare

I find righties have blinders on for what they get out of the gov. It's everyone else that's getting benefits . Not them .

And now that you pointed out my point the righties go silent.

No matter because they wouldn't reply with honesty anyways so I'm going to move on. I'm glad they went on and on for a couple pages not getting the point I was trying to make and then you popped in and got it right away.

It's funny to read all the things they wanted to think I was saying but they couldn't wrap their brains around the idea that they're being hypocrites wanting us to pay so farmers can have high speed internet but then they don't want to pay so poor people can have healthcare.

One of the stupid fuckers had the balls to make the argument that every other civilized country has one postal rate. Well doesn't every other country have national healthcare?

We've been saying for years to get rid of the subsidies. That alone would help family farms compete with the bigger ones. As for the rest of your diatribe shove it up your ass.

Of course not one Republican even understands the point I'm trying to make. No surprise. Run along ya hick.

You know what I think is so cute about you stupid Republicans? You become awfully liberal when you get in power. Go ahead, tax us all so your farms can have internet rather than pay for it yourself. We knew you loved sucking on the governments tits. So do we.

It just took you guys being in charge for you to admit you agree with Obama and Me.

Broadband A 'Necessity,' Obama Says, As He Pushes FCC To Expand Access

Looks like Republicans want to do what Obama wanted to do. You just didn't want to give him credit. I get it.