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And now that you pointed out my point the righties go silent.Why couldn't these guys see that's the point I'm trying to make? You got it but they were incapable of getting that. So how do you discuss things with people who either purposely or ignorantly refuse to see the point you are trying to make.Farmers don't get those deals you moron. Massive farming corporations do. Have you had your head so far up your ass you never heard of the death of the family farm? Some singer actually held a benefit concert for it called Farm Aid.I love how these farmers act like they ain't takers .
Playa please ! Two words "Farm Bill".
Is there even another industry that gets more gov breaks than farming ???
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...cles/2016-03-31/farm-bill-costs-are-exploding
Let's say you are right . Then why vote for the GOP ? They would say "business is business , sorry family farm."
I'm not even against the idea. I'm wondering why Republicans aren't up in arms. This is federal government over reach. It's unconstitutional. And it's forcing me to pay for something just like obamacare
I find righties have blinders on for what they get out of the gov. It's everyone else that's getting benefits . Not them .
No matter because they wouldn't reply with honesty anyways so I'm going to move on. I'm glad they went on and on for a couple pages not getting the point I was trying to make and then you popped in and got it right away.
It's funny to read all the things they wanted to think I was saying but they couldn't wrap their brains around the idea that they're being hypocrites wanting us to pay so farmers can have high speed internet but then they don't want to pay so poor people can have healthcare.
One of the stupid fuckers had the balls to make the argument that every other civilized country has one postal rate. Well doesn't every other country have national healthcare?
My previous post IN THIS VERY THREAD. You didn't even have to venture to another thread to find it.Of course not one Republican even understands the point I'm trying to make. No surprise. Run along ya hick.We've been saying for years to get rid of the subsidies. That alone would help family farms compete with the bigger ones. As for the rest of your diatribe shove it up your ass.And now that you pointed out my point the righties go silent.Why couldn't these guys see that's the point I'm trying to make? You got it but they were incapable of getting that. So how do you discuss things with people who either purposely or ignorantly refuse to see the point you are trying to make.Let's say you are right . Then why vote for the GOP ? They would say "business is business , sorry family farm."
I'm not even against the idea. I'm wondering why Republicans aren't up in arms. This is federal government over reach. It's unconstitutional. And it's forcing me to pay for something just like obamacare
I find righties have blinders on for what they get out of the gov. It's everyone else that's getting benefits . Not them .
No matter because they wouldn't reply with honesty anyways so I'm going to move on. I'm glad they went on and on for a couple pages not getting the point I was trying to make and then you popped in and got it right away.
It's funny to read all the things they wanted to think I was saying but they couldn't wrap their brains around the idea that they're being hypocrites wanting us to pay so farmers can have high speed internet but then they don't want to pay so poor people can have healthcare.
One of the stupid fuckers had the balls to make the argument that every other civilized country has one postal rate. Well doesn't every other country have national healthcare?
You know what I think is so cute about you stupid Republicans? You become awfully liberal when you get in power. Go ahead, tax us all so your farms can have internet rather than pay for it yourself. We knew you loved sucking on the governments tits. So do we.
It just took you guys being in charge for you to admit you agree with Obama and Me.
Broadband A 'Necessity,' Obama Says, As He Pushes FCC To Expand Access
Looks like Republicans want to do what Obama wanted to do. You just didn't want to give him credit. I get it.
Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago
Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.
They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.
Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.
Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.
For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.
“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”
He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”
...
While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.
Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.
If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.
It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself
$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???
If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course i make comments without insulting people. But an uninformed dingbat is not unduly harsh in this case nor is profanity-laced. It's not a safe space sweety.You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.I heard this story on NPR this morning and boy did I get pissed. Fuck those people. Pay your own fucking bills. God damn takers. Mooches.
I don't know why we only charge someone who lives 10 miles from the nearest neighbor only 25 cents to send them a damn letter. We should charge them what is profitable. To me it's just amazing to hear Republicans asking for things that aren't constitutional.
But now they will be a lot more liberal with what is and isn't constitutional. For example How Rancho Palos Verdes plans to get in on President Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan
It's a pretty asinine point regardless.
Canada
Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.
Yes, by all means keep this crap up. It is working for you don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Get out there and yell as loud as you can about how dumb Trump voters are. Do it hourly across the nation. You'll have all of them voting dem next time trust me.I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago
Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.
They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.
Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.
Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.
For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.
“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”
He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”
...
While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.
Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
Rural people are typically conservative. But they're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to politics. They are easily manipulated by candidates like Trump who make all kinds of promises--delivering the ear candy--and they typically know very little about the government and how it actually works. I doubt many of them could even tell you what the 3 branches of government are, let alone their constitutional authority.
This article hits it on the nail.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
You have an amazing grasp of the obvious.Of course i make comments without insulting people. But an uninformed dingbat is not unduly harsh in this case nor is profanity-laced. It's not a safe space sweety.You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017Do you know of any country in the world that has different general postal rates? I realize it is unlikely you are well traveled. I have not.
It's a pretty asinine point regardless.
Canada
Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.
Nope - definitely not a safe space.
But, it does seem to be a haven for assholes.
Yes, by all means keep this crap up. It is working for you don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Get out there and yell as loud as you can about how dumb Trump voters are. Do it hourly across the nation. You'll have all of them voting dem next time trust me.I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago
Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.
They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.
Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.
Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.
For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.
“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”
He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”
...
While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.
Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
Rural people are typically conservative. But they're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to politics. They are easily manipulated by candidates like Trump who make all kinds of promises--delivering the ear candy--and they typically know very little about the government and how it actually works. I doubt many of them could even tell you what the 3 branches of government are, let alone their constitutional authority.
This article hits it on the nail.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
I really don't think there is any question as to how ignorant a Trump supporter can be.
1. You went for the WALL--actually believing that Mexico would pay for it, even though they stated on several occasions they wouldn't. You also never realized that Congress holds the purse strings in this country, and it is THEY that will decide if a wall is built or not. They've already said NO to that one. They know that a 1000 mile wall with have a 1000 holes and tunnels underneath it as soon as it's built.
The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels
2. The Muslim Ban was your next ear candy. Clearly FOX News has decided to open up there own Judicial branch of government and has put Rudi Guiliani in charge of it--LOL So Trump calls Rudi and asks him to write this executive order, and then fires the sitting Attorney General Sally Watts--(whom he should have discussed this with) for telling her staff to stand down, do not defend this order, it's unconstitutional. It's like a comedy T.V. reality show.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
3. JOBS-JOBS--JOBS. Trump specifically attacking trading partners NAFTA--that he hasn't expanded the Trump empire into yet. Mexico the 2nd largest purchaser of American products. You'll note that he hasn't gone after China yet, the biggest rip off of all, because the Trump empire owns hotels there. Furthermore there is no private investor that is going to reopen rusted out factories so they can LOSE money, and a Republican congress is certainly not going to subsidize them.
Trump's Hotels In China Could Be A Conflict For The President-Elect
The reason for your ignorance, is the Reich wing media bubble you insist on living in. FOX News, Reich wing radio talk show hosts, that spoon feed their audiences the news they want to hear. Designed specifically for them, to keep them at a certain level of hysteria, while leaving out a lot of critical INFORMATION, for nothing more than ratings and profits.
IOW you were talked into a Non-Establishment candidate by Reich wing talk radio, and now you OWN the nightmare.
Here's one of your favorites after a caller was able to sneak onto his program. This is regarding MASS DEPORTATIONS---that you also took the bait on.
I know --- spotted you, right off.You have an amazing grasp of the obvious.Of course i make comments without insulting people. But an uninformed dingbat is not unduly harsh in this case nor is profanity-laced. It's not a safe space sweety.You're an uninformed dingabt: Canada Post - Postal Prices 2017Canada
Would it be possible for you to make a comment without insulting someone. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Letters go at the same rate in Canada, but the charge for a package is based on the distance it travels.
Nope - definitely not a safe space.
But, it does seem to be a haven for assholes.
A lot of y'all city folk keep saying F tha country folk. Here's a little something fer y'all to ponder over. Do y'all city folk know where those big trucks carrying food come from, and your water comes from out of town also. Just saying never bite the hand that feeds you.
What you think bout them apples?
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Yes, by all means keep this crap up. It is working for you don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Get out there and yell as loud as you can about how dumb Trump voters are. Do it hourly across the nation. You'll have all of them voting dem next time trust me.I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago
Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.
They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.
Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.
Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.
For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.
“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”
He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”
...
While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.
Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
Rural people are typically conservative. But they're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to politics. They are easily manipulated by candidates like Trump who make all kinds of promises--delivering the ear candy--and they typically know very little about the government and how it actually works. I doubt many of them could even tell you what the 3 branches of government are, let alone their constitutional authority.
This article hits it on the nail.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
I really don't think there is any question as to how ignorant a Trump supporter can be.
1. You went for the WALL--actually believing that Mexico would pay for it, even though they stated on several occasions they wouldn't. You also never realized that Congress holds the purse strings in this country, and it is THEY that will decide if a wall is built or not. They've already said NO to that one. They know that a 1000 mile wall with have a 1000 holes and tunnels underneath it as soon as it's built.
The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels
2. The Muslim Ban was your next ear candy. Clearly FOX News has decided to open up there own Judicial branch of government and has put Rudi Guiliani in charge of it--LOL So Trump calls Rudi and asks him to write this executive order, and then fires the sitting Attorney General Sally Watts--(whom he should have discussed this with) for telling her staff to stand down, do not defend this order, it's unconstitutional. It's like a comedy T.V. reality show.
Trump’s Executive Order Is an Unconstitutional Attack on Muslims. It Must Be Struck Down In Its Entirety.
3. JOBS-JOBS--JOBS. Trump specifically attacking trading partners NAFTA--that he hasn't expanded the Trump empire into yet. Mexico the 2nd largest purchaser of American products. You'll note that he hasn't gone after China yet, the biggest rip off of all, because the Trump empire owns hotels there. Furthermore there is no private investor that is going to reopen rusted out factories so they can LOSE money, and a Republican congress is certainly not going to subsidize them. Today Trump announced he's not going to do away with NAFTA, he's going to make it better.
Trump's Hotels In China Could Be A Conflict For The President-Elect
The reason for your ignorance, is the Reich wing media bubble you insist on living in. FOX News, Reich wing radio talk show hosts, that spoon feed their audiences the news they want to hear. Designed specifically for them, to keep them at a certain level of hysteria, while leaving out a lot of critical INFORMATION, for nothing more than ratings and profits.
IOW you were talked into a Non-Establishment candidate by Reich wing talk radio, and now you OWN the nightmare.
Here's one of your favorites after a caller was able to sneak onto his program. This is regarding MASS DEPORTATIONS---that you also took the bait on.
Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago
Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.
They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.
Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.
Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.
For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.
“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”
He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”
...
While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.
Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.
Why Rural America Voted for Trump
It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.
If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.
It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself
$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???
If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
.
Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.
It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.
If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.
It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself
$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???
If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
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Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
You don't see the similarities?Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?
It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.
If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.
It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself
$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???
If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
.
Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
You don't see the similarities?Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???
If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
.
Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Bullshit! Before the aca Republicans didn't care about healthcare. Maybe the gop today does but you can't thank us liberals for that.You don't see the similarities?Ha! You got me! It's only 9k.
The exact dollar amount was not the point but a stupid person with no response would focus on the trivial and totally miss they point, which you did.
I think you have to have this stupid gene in order to be a Republican. That and the greedy gene
Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
.
Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Can you name someone - anyone - who has said that quality healthcare shouldn't be available to everyone?
I didn't think so ---- the discussion wasn't about IF, it was about HOW. But, hey, in your rush to emotionalize the discussion, you forgot the truth.
Bullshit! Before the aca Republicans didn't care about healthcare. Maybe the gop today does but you can't thank us liberals for that.You don't see the similarities?Of course, you fail to mention that your healthcare costs are really your healthcare costs ... you are paying for insurance that is a conglomerate of costs across a large spectrum of people, a conglomerate designed to mitigate the peaks of one's healthcare using the valley of another's.
You're perfectly comfortable TAKING from the system when it's to your advantage, but unwilling to GIVE when it's not.
.
Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Can you name someone - anyone - who has said that quality healthcare shouldn't be available to everyone?
I didn't think so ---- the discussion wasn't about IF, it was about HOW. But, hey, in your rush to emotionalize the discussion, you forgot the truth.
Obama knew the aca needed fixing but it was what he could get thru. It's a start. Fixed a lot of problems. It's just still too expensive.
And don't lie because I argued with cons for years. They didn't want poor people to have shit. Can't afford it die they said. Want me to find it in the archives?
Or better you show me your position from last year that validates that's what you guys were all about all along. I call bullshit. Are you new? You sound new
When you can't even get my point then others easily do, you're a rwnj.Bullshit! Before the aca Republicans didn't care about healthcare. Maybe the gop today does but you can't thank us liberals for that.You don't see the similarities?Holy fuck you get it! My arguments are not flawed logic stupid. You just proved everything I've been saying about Republicans with your comments. Maybe you don't realize it because with this HSI story you cons have now basically flip flopped. Now Republicans are going to make the same arguments for why we should have government do for them and give them HSI when last year they didn't agree when it was for poor people to get healthcare. You guys really are sick in the heads.
Before it was so poor people could have healthcare. That didn't help you so you didn't want it. Now it's about getting you HSI, and you fucking want everyone to pay so you can get it. Mitigate this mother fuckers.
Perfectly comfortable taking from the system when it's to your advantage but not when it's not. That's my point exactly about you!
Healthcare isn't a right but HSI is? Wow!
Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Can you name someone - anyone - who has said that quality healthcare shouldn't be available to everyone?
I didn't think so ---- the discussion wasn't about IF, it was about HOW. But, hey, in your rush to emotionalize the discussion, you forgot the truth.
Obama knew the aca needed fixing but it was what he could get thru. It's a start. Fixed a lot of problems. It's just still too expensive.
And don't lie because I argued with cons for years. They didn't want poor people to have shit. Can't afford it die they said. Want me to find it in the archives?
Or better you show me your position from last year that validates that's what you guys were all about all along. I call bullshit. Are you new? You sound new
Running off at the mouth again .... devoid of facts, but long on bluster.
"Everybody knows..." "They said ... " "I read..." "I know because ... " "They didn't ... "
The weapons of the left - amorphous bullshit without a single fact.
You haven't argued with cons for years ... you have preached your own special brand of hate, rejecting anything that interfered with your opinion, and attacking people who DARE to try to discuss the issue with you.
As for things we can thank liberals for, do you seriously want me to give you a list?
When you can't even get my point then others easily do, you're a rwnj.Bullshit! Before the aca Republicans didn't care about healthcare. Maybe the gop today does but you can't thank us liberals for that.You don't see the similarities?Per usual, you demonstrate your inability at critical thinking and your penchant for flawed logic.
No one ... except in your clearly distorted mind ... has 1) drawn any parallel between healthcare and HSI, or 2) claimed that "poor people" shouldn't have healthcare. You have intentionally distorted the facts in order to arrive at a preconceived result.
Psychiatrists have a name for that ..... "really fucking stupid".
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Can you name someone - anyone - who has said that quality healthcare shouldn't be available to everyone?
I didn't think so ---- the discussion wasn't about IF, it was about HOW. But, hey, in your rush to emotionalize the discussion, you forgot the truth.
Obama knew the aca needed fixing but it was what he could get thru. It's a start. Fixed a lot of problems. It's just still too expensive.
And don't lie because I argued with cons for years. They didn't want poor people to have shit. Can't afford it die they said. Want me to find it in the archives?
Or better you show me your position from last year that validates that's what you guys were all about all along. I call bullshit. Are you new? You sound new
Running off at the mouth again .... devoid of facts, but long on bluster.
"Everybody knows..." "They said ... " "I read..." "I know because ... " "They didn't ... "
The weapons of the left - amorphous bullshit without a single fact.
You haven't argued with cons for years ... you have preached your own special brand of hate, rejecting anything that interfered with your opinion, and attacking people who DARE to try to discuss the issue with you.
As for things we can thank liberals for, do you seriously want me to give you a list?
I searched your threads. Kim Davis? Really?
So are you pro illegal immigrants?
Your wasting time with Bo Bo...When you can't even get my point then others easily do, you're a rwnj.Bullshit! Before the aca Republicans didn't care about healthcare. Maybe the gop today does but you can't thank us liberals for that.You don't see the similarities?
So now you want everyone to have healthcare? How liberal of you
Can you name someone - anyone - who has said that quality healthcare shouldn't be available to everyone?
I didn't think so ---- the discussion wasn't about IF, it was about HOW. But, hey, in your rush to emotionalize the discussion, you forgot the truth.
Obama knew the aca needed fixing but it was what he could get thru. It's a start. Fixed a lot of problems. It's just still too expensive.
And don't lie because I argued with cons for years. They didn't want poor people to have shit. Can't afford it die they said. Want me to find it in the archives?
Or better you show me your position from last year that validates that's what you guys were all about all along. I call bullshit. Are you new? You sound new
Running off at the mouth again .... devoid of facts, but long on bluster.
"Everybody knows..." "They said ... " "I read..." "I know because ... " "They didn't ... "
The weapons of the left - amorphous bullshit without a single fact.
You haven't argued with cons for years ... you have preached your own special brand of hate, rejecting anything that interfered with your opinion, and attacking people who DARE to try to discuss the issue with you.
As for things we can thank liberals for, do you seriously want me to give you a list?
I searched your threads. Kim Davis? Really?
So are you pro illegal immigrants?
i rest my case.
