Why Obama is wrong when he says business needs the government

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    History is full of examples of the government taking on projects that are huge because they believe they wouldn't happen otherwise. History is also full of examples of projects that businesses took on because they were needed. My favorite example of the latter is one of Obama's talking points when he claims that the government is indispensable.

    Turns out that the government actually did everything it could to stop the Golden Gate bridge, and that, ultimately, it was built because of one man.

    www.thomas-purcell.com: Obama's Golden Gate Sized Error

    Want to know what else got built without the government?

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    I've seen several posts bemoaning what Obama said about businesses.

    I just haven't seen where he was, specifically, talking about government.

    He merely said they didn't get there on their own.
    They didn't.
    Without a demand and a customer base there wouldn't have been a reason to start their business.

    I've been wrong before.....ask my wife.
    But I just don;t see where he was giving government the credit.
     
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    Are you trying to tell me that when he starts listing all those projects, like the Hoover Dam, the highways, and the railroads, and claims that they were not built by business, he wasn't trying to give government the credit? How, exactly, do you come to that conclusion?
     
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    When he specifically mentions that the Internet was a government funded project he is not trying to give government the credit?

    Even rdean can see it Horty, stop bending over backwards to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    By this statement then, Obama is willing to stay out of smaller businesses? Doubtful.
     
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    You have to look at what he said in the context of what he was discussing..or rather orating about. He said," And that somebody includes the government: public investments in roads, bridges, schools, the Internet, etc. — “this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive,

    His intent is to say that since the government helped YOU be successful, you owe government something more than people who don't have that success.
     
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    Good government protects the rights of its citizens without imposing winners and losers in the process.
     
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    I don't owe the government anything. They owe me protection of my rights and an opportunity to pursue life, liberty and happiness. The fruits of that opportunity are mine and mine alone.
     

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