Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

[PoliticalChic]

Gee....I sure hope so!

A couple of months have gone by, and you Liberal fascists still hate free speech!

253 responses in that thread, and you Liberals joined in with a chorus of "is not, is not...!"


I don't know how to thank you enough for helping me spread the truth!

I proved you wrong repeatedly.

I showed you that Bob Jones University officially condemns free speech in its handbook.

Show me where liberal colleges do that.

Please....do your best not to seem like more of a fool than you usually appear.

How could I stand for free speech....and you 'prove me wrong"?




Free speech is a principle upon which this nation was founded....

...and your side:
"Principle is nothing to liberals. Winning is everything."
Coulter


Winning....even when it means imposing fascism.

Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her even for stupid remarks?

Show me the liberal colleges that restrict free speech as POLICY, right in their handbooks, as does CONSERVATIVE Bob Jones U.

"Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her ...."

So....you're reason for popping out from under the rock today is for education?

No problem...

Now, jot this down:

Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
Composition Patterns: Developing an Argument

She has a reputation as a conservative propagandist.

And the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it.

You might as well have said it. It's equally stupid coming from either of your cakeholes.

"....the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it."



Clearly famous, clearly an expert on the subject at hand.

And, as you have strong views about Queen Ann, could you list some of her dozen best sellers.....scholarly and well documented tomes of hers.....that you've read?


...'else folks might have the impression that you are no more then a Left-wing windbag.


We wouldn't want that.....

 

[NYcarbineer]

I proved you wrong repeatedly.

I showed you that Bob Jones University officially condemns free speech in its handbook.

Show me where liberal colleges do that.

Please....do your best not to seem like more of a fool than you usually appear.

How could I stand for free speech....and you 'prove me wrong"?




Free speech is a principle upon which this nation was founded....

...and your side:
"Principle is nothing to liberals. Winning is everything."
Coulter


Winning....even when it means imposing fascism.

Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her even for stupid remarks?

Show me the liberal colleges that restrict free speech as POLICY, right in their handbooks, as does CONSERVATIVE Bob Jones U.

"Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her ...."

So....you're reason for popping out from under the rock today is for education?

No problem...

Now, jot this down:

Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
Composition Patterns: Developing an Argument

She has a reputation as a conservative propagandist.

And the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it.

You might as well have said it. It's equally stupid coming from either of your cakeholes.

"....the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it."



Clearly famous, clearly an expert on the subject at hand.

And, as you have strong views about Queen Ann, could you list some of her dozen best sellers.....scholarly and well documented tomes of hers.....that you've read?


...'else folks might have the impression that you are no more a Left-wing windbag.


We wouldn't want that.....

What does a dozen books prove?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Please....do your best not to seem like more of a fool than you usually appear.

How could I stand for free speech....and you 'prove me wrong"?




Free speech is a principle upon which this nation was founded....

...and your side:
"Principle is nothing to liberals. Winning is everything."
Coulter


Winning....even when it means imposing fascism.

Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her even for stupid remarks?

Show me the liberal colleges that restrict free speech as POLICY, right in their handbooks, as does CONSERVATIVE Bob Jones U.

"Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her ...."

So....you're reason for popping out from under the rock today is for education?

No problem...

Now, jot this down:

Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
Composition Patterns: Developing an Argument

She has a reputation as a conservative propagandist.

And the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it.

You might as well have said it. It's equally stupid coming from either of your cakeholes.

"....the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it."



Clearly famous, clearly an expert on the subject at hand.

And, as you have strong views about Queen Ann, could you list some of her dozen best sellers.....scholarly and well documented tomes of hers.....that you've read?


...'else folks might have the impression that you are no more a Left-wing windbag.


We wouldn't want that.....

What does a dozen books prove?

For one thing, it proves that you've read none.

Perhaps you fear facing such a scholar whose work eviscerates your most firmly held worldviews.
Could be?

So stipulated: you are a Left-wing windbag.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her even for stupid remarks?

Show me the liberal colleges that restrict free speech as POLICY, right in their handbooks, as does CONSERVATIVE Bob Jones U.

"Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her ...."

So....you're reason for popping out from under the rock today is for education?

No problem...

Now, jot this down:

Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
Composition Patterns: Developing an Argument

She has a reputation as a conservative propagandist.

And the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it.

You might as well have said it. It's equally stupid coming from either of your cakeholes.

"....the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it."



Clearly famous, clearly an expert on the subject at hand.

And, as you have strong views about Queen Ann, could you list some of her dozen best sellers.....scholarly and well documented tomes of hers.....that you've read?


...'else folks might have the impression that you are no more a Left-wing windbag.


We wouldn't want that.....

What does a dozen books prove?

For one thing, it proves that you've read none.

Perhaps you fear facing such a scholar whose word eviscerates your most firmly held worldviews.
Could be?

So stipulated: you are a Left-wing windbag.

Noam Chomsky has written over 100 books. I guess that makes him about 8 times smarter and more scholarly than Coulter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Who's Coulter? Is she so much smarter than you that you have to rely on her ...."

So....you're reason for popping out from under the rock today is for education?

No problem...

Now, jot this down:

Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
Composition Patterns: Developing an Argument

She has a reputation as a conservative propagandist.

And the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it.

You might as well have said it. It's equally stupid coming from either of your cakeholes.

"....the baseless opinion she expressed does not get less baseless just because she said it."



Clearly famous, clearly an expert on the subject at hand.

And, as you have strong views about Queen Ann, could you list some of her dozen best sellers.....scholarly and well documented tomes of hers.....that you've read?


...'else folks might have the impression that you are no more a Left-wing windbag.


We wouldn't want that.....

What does a dozen books prove?

For one thing, it proves that you've read none.

Perhaps you fear facing such a scholar whose word eviscerates your most firmly held worldviews.
Could be?

So stipulated: you are a Left-wing windbag.

Noam Chomsky has written over 100 books. I guess that makes him about 8 times smarter and more scholarly than Coulter.

"....smarter and more scholarly than Coulter."

The issue was not about comparing Queen Ann to someone else, but about her being smart and scholarly.

I accept your less than graceful defeat.


If you care to begin a thread about Noam Chomsky....whose books I'll guess you haven't read either.....if I have the time, I'd be more than happy to destroy him, too.

 

[JFK_USA]

Here's a related article.

Free speech is flunking out on college campuses

Yup....

....and from your link:

"These threats to free speech peaked this week at Wesleyan University, a top-flight school in Middletown, Conn., where the student government voted to cut funding for the 150-year-old campus newspaper after it published a conservative op-ed."

Okay PC, let's see if you can put away your bias.

Ben Carson recently said that he would remove federal funding from colleges and universities if they had "extreme political bias".

Now, as a self-proclaimed staunch defender of Freedom of Speech, why should the government punish universities for having speech the current administration (let's assume Carson wins) disagrees with? Would that be censorship per se since it's effect would be preventing speech on college campuses?

Now back to the thread.

Actually having been to a university (and currently on one), universities do NOT prevent people from speaking. We have bible crazies coming out weekly talking on campus. Had liberal and conservatives on campus discussing issues in a very civil manner. Both sides are challenged and both are heard. So I don't see where any of this is coming from.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Government schooling is, pro forma, anti-free speech, anti-freedom of thought, and anti-freedom of religion.



7." Another aspect of this is the left-wing opposition to homeschooling and private schools. The Left hates any competition to publik skoolz. This is because the Left controls the publik skoolz, while it does not get to control the education of children in private, parochial, and home schools. ... the curricula and the administration from the top levels on down are largely controlled by the radical Left.

.... From the ridiculous insistence on hanging onto "global warming" despite all the actual scientific evidence against it to the continued efforts at historical revisionism that elevate Cesar Chavez in importance to American history over the Founding Fathers, the Left has ruined American education for the purposes of actual education, and has remade it into the image they want for purposes of indoctrination into left-wing ideology.

Homeschooling, private schooling, religious schooling – these all work to take kids away from the claws of left-wing administrators and curriculum developers, and put them into environments where they are much more likely to learn traditional (read: non-left wing) values and gain real knowledge. ....This was based upon Hitlerian laws against homeschooling that are still on the books in Germany today. And no, that last statement is not a case of Godwin's Law – the anti-homeschooling laws in Germany actually were put into place by the Nazi Party, specifically for the purpose of preventing parents from withdrawing their children from Der Publik Skoolz so that they wouldn't be infected by Nazi propaganda.

Which, when you think about it, is pretty much the same reason liberals don't want you homeschooling your kids today."
Why Liberals Hate Freedom Of Speech - Conservative Crusader

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's a related article.

Free speech is flunking out on college campuses

Yup....

....and from your link:

"These threats to free speech peaked this week at Wesleyan University, a top-flight school in Middletown, Conn., where the student government voted to cut funding for the 150-year-old campus newspaper after it published a conservative op-ed."

Okay PC, let's see if you can put away your bias.

Ben Carson recently said that he would remove federal funding from colleges and universities if they had "extreme political bias".

Now, as a self-proclaimed staunch defender of Freedom of Speech, why should the government punish universities for having speech the current administration (let's assume Carson wins) disagrees with? Would that be censorship per se since it's effect would be preventing speech on college campuses?

Now back to the thread.

Actually having been to a university (and currently on one), universities do NOT prevent people from speaking. We have bible crazies coming out weekly talking on campus. Had liberal and conservatives on campus discussing issues in a very civil manner. Both sides are challenged and both are heard. So I don't see where any of this is coming from.

1. "...why should the government punish universities for having speech the current administration (let's assume Carson wins) disagrees with?"
Amusing that you claim to have been to a university, and are at one currently....yet you're clueless about the 'law of the land.'

That would be the US Constitution.

The authority of the federal government is precisely stated in Article 1, section 8.

a.“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined.Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, aswar, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce;with which last the power of taxation will for the most part be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people; and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”
James Madison, Federalist #45, January 26, 1788


Can you find the authority to fund universities....or education on any level therein?


2. Since you will be unable to perform the above task, could you take the time to explain your use of "bible crazies"?

Then, I'll eviscerate your response.




Please don't respond if:
a. I've caused a dangerous elevation in your blood pressure

or

b. If you suffer the fear and anxiety that questions such as mine, which destroy your worldview, have caused.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

Hate it? No, we invented it...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

Hate it? No, we invented it...

Socialists invented free speech???

Hardly.

 

[Timmy]

When are conservatives FOR free speech? They don't even understand the concept .

Dixie Chicks ring a bell?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals own and operate government schools.....to the detriment of freedom and liberty.


Government schooling is, pro forma, anti-free speech, anti-freedom of thought, and anti-freedom of religion.


Like this:



7a. "San Fran Middle School Cancels Student Elections Because Too Many White People Elected

A student government election at a San Francisco middle school had its results ignored after a principal decided the candidates elected were too white.

Elections were held at Everett Middle School Oct. 10, but on Oct. 14 principal Lena Van Haren sent an email to parents saying the results were being ignored, without being made public, because those elected did not reflect how diverse the school is.

While Everett is more than 80 percent non-white, Van Haren said the election results “weren’t representative” of that.

“That is concerning to me because as principal I want to make sure the voices are all heard, from all backgrounds,” Van Haren told local KTVU News." http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/19/s...-too-many-white-people-elected/#ixzz3pPDNIo7X


The results of Liberal control of the schools?
Social engineering in place of education.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When are conservatives FOR free speech? They don't even understand the concept .

Dixie Chicks ring a bell?

I'm for free speech.
Are you?

What happens to freedom when Liberals are in charge?


"Public schools may not allow prayers before football games


[In 2000] on June 19th, the US Supreme Court announced a landmark decision on one of the most controversial topics in American jurisprudence: school prayer. In Santa Fe v. Doe, the Court ruled that public schools cannot permit student-led, student-initiated prayer at football games without violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

The Court concluded that the football game prayers were public speech authorized by a government policy and taking place on government property at government-sponsored school-related events, and that the District’s policy involved both perceived and actual government endorsement of the delivery of prayer at important school events.

Such speech is not properly characterized as “private,” wrote Justice Stevens for the majority. In dissent, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, joined by Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, noted the “disturbing” tone of the Court’s opinion that “bristle[d] with hostility to all things religious in public life.”[/B]
Public schools may not allow prayers before football games » LII Announce

 

[PaintMyHouse]

in general, keep you faith to yourself and away from our public schools. Those are state things, not church things...

 

[PoliticalChic]

in general, keep you faith to yourself and away from our public schools. Those are state things, not church things...

1. If you are referring to the post about prayer before the football game, you are, as you are so often....

...totally incorrect, and, of course, biased.

As stated in the post, the prayer was student-led, and student-initiated.

2. No one was required to participate.

3. The issue is settled in the first amendment to the law of the land: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Search as you will, you will not be able to find the word 'sometimes' prior to not prohibiting the free expression of one's religion.


3. It is only those doctrines emanating from the works of Karl Marx that fear and abjor religion.

a. This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report | Essays


4. America was created by religious folks with a religious view of it's mission.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why Liberals Hate Free Speech"

Why conservatives' threads fail as straw man fallacies, this thread being one of many examples.

 

[Timmy]

School children? Is that were u make for free speech argument . School is not same as the street corner . You don't have the freedoms like u do on the outside .

Maybe you want kids to be able to tell teachers to fuck off, and not be punished .

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Why Liberals Hate Free Speech"

Why conservatives' threads fail as straw man fallacies, this thread being one of many examples.

One day you may decide to read the Constitution, and even study law...
...and then you'll find the ineluctable need to apologize to me, and offer penitential prostration.


And...I may even accept it.

Until that day, you will remain C_Chamber_Pot.

 

[PoliticalChic]

School children? Is that were u make for free speech argument . School is not same as the street corner . You don't have the freedoms like u do on the outside .

Maybe you want kids to be able to tell teachers to fuck off, and not be punished .

There are certain slow-witted individuals who can read, but fail to understand what they read.

The bad news?
You are one such individual.

The good news?
You will be embraced by other slow-witted individuals as another 'reliable Democrat voter.'


Evidence?
Sure....
The first amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


"...no law...prohibiting the free exercise thereof (religion)..."

Now...focus like a laser: does it state any exceptions?

Or....can you find any amendments to the Constitution what state exceptions.


Yet, you imagine such.
See what I mean about you being slow-witted?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

PC has been asked time and again to explain what are the reasonable restrictions that can be placed on the First Amendment, and she can never answer. That is why she fails, completely, to understand why public schools cannot be seen as endorsing religion.