Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

[Moonglow]

I have a lot of empathy for the poor white class working folk.....they are the ones that time and again have fought for and defended America....from the Revolutionary War to this very moment.

Yet for the last several decades they have no or little representation in Congress...the most abused class of victims in our society.

Along comes Trump the first President in a very long time who has stand up for them...and the rich, the media, and even the elitist pc republicans want to tear down Trump.

What is happening now and has been happening for a long time now is that the media, establishment types, hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole....only supports relief and help of any sort for the minorities....why is that...because they perceive that as a route for acceptance and to promote their fallacious moral superiority....this need for moral superiority is what really propels liberals....they desperately have a need to feeel superior to other white folks....and thus the crazy stupidity of promoting 'others' at the expense of their own kind. Reverse discrimination....full blown.

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damn those liberal christians!

 

[Harry Dresden]

The left like to brag about California's economy but they don't like to talk about how politicians have spent money that has yet to be made. They are in trouble. Big trouble. Look at the districts represented by Pelosi and Waters. If you live in San Fran, you are lucky if you can afford to live indoors. Housing shortage and insane rates to rent. If you live in Water's district, you also might be the proud owner of a cardboard house. Looks like a third world country.

This is the result of leftist policies. Simple as that. Tax payers are paying thousands of bureaucrats to give more of their tax dollars away. The state wants people on welfare. Policies have ensured a housing shortage, raising rents to ridiculous rates. Their high taxes on energy hurt everyone, especially the poor. The raise in minimum wage made more jobs disappear and didn't help anyone on welfare. Liberals and leftists are experts at making money disappear with zero results. And they think the entire country should follow their lead.

Of course, they also insist that tax payers foot the bill for providing millions of illegal aliens with food, housing, healthcare and education. And the illegals that do work send most of their money back to Mexico so they don't help the economy here.

Not to mention the fact that California does not have the money to pay for the excessively high pension payments and that would mean each household being responsible for paying $60,000 each. The amount grows each year. California is a shining example of how implementing the Cloward-Piven plan can take us down. That is the endgame. They encourage illegal immigration and spend tens of billions each year to protect them so they can help the left get and permanently keep power.

So many useful idiots allow them to get away with this crap.


"Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls.

Further contributing to the poverty problem is California’s housing crisis. More than four in 10 households spent more than 30% of their income on housing in 2015. A shortage of available units has driven prices ever higher, far above income increases. And that shortage is a direct outgrowth of misguided policies.

“Counties and local governments have imposed restrictive land-use regulations that drove up the price of land and dwellings,” explains analyst Wendell Cox. “Middle-income households have been forced to accept lower standards of living while the less fortunate have been driven into poverty by the high cost of housing.” The California Environmental Quality Act, passed in 1971, is one example; it can add $1 million to the cost of completing a housing development, says Todd Williams, an Oakland attorney who chairs the Wendel Rosen Black & Dean land-use group. CEQA costs have been known to shut down entire homebuilding projects. CEQA reform would help increase housing supply, but there’s no real movement to change the law.
Extensive environmental regulations aimed at reducing carbon dioxide emissions make energy more expensive, also hurting the poor. By some estimates, California energy costs are as much as 50% higher than the national average. Jonathan A. Lesser of Continental Economics, author of a 2015 Manhattan Institute study, “Less Carbon, Higher Prices,” found that “in 2012, nearly 1 million California households faced … energy expenditures exceeding 10% of household income. In certain California counties, the rate of energy poverty was as high as 15% of all households.” A Pacific Research Institute study by Wayne Winegarden found that the rate could exceed 17% of median income in some areas.

Looking to help poor and low-income residents, California lawmakers recently passed a measure raising the minimum wage from $10 an hour to $15 an hour by 2022 — but a higher minimum wage will do nothing for the 60% of Californians who live in poverty and don’t have jobs. And research indicates that it could cause many who do have jobs to lose them. A Harvard University study found evidence that “higher minimum wages increase overall exit rates for restaurants” in the Bay Area, where more than a dozen cities and counties, including San Francisco, have changed their minimum-wage ordinances in the last five years. “Estimates suggest that a one-dollar increase in the minimum wage leads to a 14% increase in the likelihood of exit for a 3.5-star restaurant (which is the median rating),” the report says. These restaurants are a significant source of employment for low-skilled and entry-level workers."

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

I must say you did not touch on the real issue which is there is so much work that people can not find housing so must live half way across the state and commute for 2 hours each way. The only poverty is in the mind of the op.

so are you are saying there is no poverty in California?...and the reason people drive for 2 hours to work is because the cant afford to live were the job is....there are people who drive daily from Moreno Vally to Anaheim which is an hour and a half drive with no traffic,traffic and it could be 2....all because the houses were cheaper...

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, could reduce traffic congestion, "overnight".

so who is going to do the work danny if people can just get unemployment because they dont want to work?....and who would be willing to actually work and pay for these people who dont want to work?....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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[Thinker101]

The left like to brag about California's economy but they don't like to talk about how politicians have spent money that has yet to be made. They are in trouble. Big trouble. Look at the districts represented by Pelosi and Waters. If you live in San Fran, you are lucky if you can afford to live indoors. Housing shortage and insane rates to rent. If you live in Water's district, you also might be the proud owner of a cardboard house. Looks like a third world country.

This is the result of leftist policies. Simple as that. Tax payers are paying thousands of bureaucrats to give more of their tax dollars away. The state wants people on welfare. Policies have ensured a housing shortage, raising rents to ridiculous rates. Their high taxes on energy hurt everyone, especially the poor. The raise in minimum wage made more jobs disappear and didn't help anyone on welfare. Liberals and leftists are experts at making money disappear with zero results. And they think the entire country should follow their lead.

Of course, they also insist that tax payers foot the bill for providing millions of illegal aliens with food, housing, healthcare and education. And the illegals that do work send most of their money back to Mexico so they don't help the economy here.

Not to mention the fact that California does not have the money to pay for the excessively high pension payments and that would mean each household being responsible for paying $60,000 each. The amount grows each year. California is a shining example of how implementing the Cloward-Piven plan can take us down. That is the endgame. They encourage illegal immigration and spend tens of billions each year to protect them so they can help the left get and permanently keep power.

So many useful idiots allow them to get away with this crap.


"Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls.

Further contributing to the poverty problem is California’s housing crisis. More than four in 10 households spent more than 30% of their income on housing in 2015. A shortage of available units has driven prices ever higher, far above income increases. And that shortage is a direct outgrowth of misguided policies.

“Counties and local governments have imposed restrictive land-use regulations that drove up the price of land and dwellings,” explains analyst Wendell Cox. “Middle-income households have been forced to accept lower standards of living while the less fortunate have been driven into poverty by the high cost of housing.” The California Environmental Quality Act, passed in 1971, is one example; it can add $1 million to the cost of completing a housing development, says Todd Williams, an Oakland attorney who chairs the Wendel Rosen Black & Dean land-use group. CEQA costs have been known to shut down entire homebuilding projects. CEQA reform would help increase housing supply, but there’s no real movement to change the law.
Extensive environmental regulations aimed at reducing carbon dioxide emissions make energy more expensive, also hurting the poor. By some estimates, California energy costs are as much as 50% higher than the national average. Jonathan A. Lesser of Continental Economics, author of a 2015 Manhattan Institute study, “Less Carbon, Higher Prices,” found that “in 2012, nearly 1 million California households faced … energy expenditures exceeding 10% of household income. In certain California counties, the rate of energy poverty was as high as 15% of all households.” A Pacific Research Institute study by Wayne Winegarden found that the rate could exceed 17% of median income in some areas.

Looking to help poor and low-income residents, California lawmakers recently passed a measure raising the minimum wage from $10 an hour to $15 an hour by 2022 — but a higher minimum wage will do nothing for the 60% of Californians who live in poverty and don’t have jobs. And research indicates that it could cause many who do have jobs to lose them. A Harvard University study found evidence that “higher minimum wages increase overall exit rates for restaurants” in the Bay Area, where more than a dozen cities and counties, including San Francisco, have changed their minimum-wage ordinances in the last five years. “Estimates suggest that a one-dollar increase in the minimum wage leads to a 14% increase in the likelihood of exit for a 3.5-star restaurant (which is the median rating),” the report says. These restaurants are a significant source of employment for low-skilled and entry-level workers."

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

I must say you did not touch on the real issue which is there is so much work that people can not find housing so must live half way across the state and commute for 2 hours each way. The only poverty is in the mind of the op.

Sure, that's the reason people commute 2 hours each way...dumbass.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Texas...the red state god...has a higher poverty rate than Cali!

 

[Thinker101]

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[Remodeling Maidiac]

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?



Liberalism

 

[danielpalos]

The left like to brag about California's economy but they don't like to talk about how politicians have spent money that has yet to be made. They are in trouble. Big trouble. Look at the districts represented by Pelosi and Waters. If you live in San Fran, you are lucky if you can afford to live indoors. Housing shortage and insane rates to rent. If you live in Water's district, you also might be the proud owner of a cardboard house. Looks like a third world country.

This is the result of leftist policies. Simple as that. Tax payers are paying thousands of bureaucrats to give more of their tax dollars away. The state wants people on welfare. Policies have ensured a housing shortage, raising rents to ridiculous rates. Their high taxes on energy hurt everyone, especially the poor. The raise in minimum wage made more jobs disappear and didn't help anyone on welfare. Liberals and leftists are experts at making money disappear with zero results. And they think the entire country should follow their lead.

Of course, they also insist that tax payers foot the bill for providing millions of illegal aliens with food, housing, healthcare and education. And the illegals that do work send most of their money back to Mexico so they don't help the economy here.

Not to mention the fact that California does not have the money to pay for the excessively high pension payments and that would mean each household being responsible for paying $60,000 each. The amount grows each year. California is a shining example of how implementing the Cloward-Piven plan can take us down. That is the endgame. They encourage illegal immigration and spend tens of billions each year to protect them so they can help the left get and permanently keep power.

So many useful idiots allow them to get away with this crap.


"Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls.

Further contributing to the poverty problem is California’s housing crisis. More than four in 10 households spent more than 30% of their income on housing in 2015. A shortage of available units has driven prices ever higher, far above income increases. And that shortage is a direct outgrowth of misguided policies.

“Counties and local governments have imposed restrictive land-use regulations that drove up the price of land and dwellings,” explains analyst Wendell Cox. “Middle-income households have been forced to accept lower standards of living while the less fortunate have been driven into poverty by the high cost of housing.” The California Environmental Quality Act, passed in 1971, is one example; it can add $1 million to the cost of completing a housing development, says Todd Williams, an Oakland attorney who chairs the Wendel Rosen Black & Dean land-use group. CEQA costs have been known to shut down entire homebuilding projects. CEQA reform would help increase housing supply, but there’s no real movement to change the law.
Extensive environmental regulations aimed at reducing carbon dioxide emissions make energy more expensive, also hurting the poor. By some estimates, California energy costs are as much as 50% higher than the national average. Jonathan A. Lesser of Continental Economics, author of a 2015 Manhattan Institute study, “Less Carbon, Higher Prices,” found that “in 2012, nearly 1 million California households faced … energy expenditures exceeding 10% of household income. In certain California counties, the rate of energy poverty was as high as 15% of all households.” A Pacific Research Institute study by Wayne Winegarden found that the rate could exceed 17% of median income in some areas.

Looking to help poor and low-income residents, California lawmakers recently passed a measure raising the minimum wage from $10 an hour to $15 an hour by 2022 — but a higher minimum wage will do nothing for the 60% of Californians who live in poverty and don’t have jobs. And research indicates that it could cause many who do have jobs to lose them. A Harvard University study found evidence that “higher minimum wages increase overall exit rates for restaurants” in the Bay Area, where more than a dozen cities and counties, including San Francisco, have changed their minimum-wage ordinances in the last five years. “Estimates suggest that a one-dollar increase in the minimum wage leads to a 14% increase in the likelihood of exit for a 3.5-star restaurant (which is the median rating),” the report says. These restaurants are a significant source of employment for low-skilled and entry-level workers."

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

I must say you did not touch on the real issue which is there is so much work that people can not find housing so must live half way across the state and commute for 2 hours each way. The only poverty is in the mind of the op.

so are you are saying there is no poverty in California?...and the reason people drive for 2 hours to work is because the cant afford to live were the job is....there are people who drive daily from Moreno Vally to Anaheim which is an hour and a half drive with no traffic,traffic and it could be 2....all because the houses were cheaper...

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, could reduce traffic congestion, "overnight".

so who is going to do the work danny if people can just get unemployment because they dont want to work?....and who would be willing to actually work and pay for these people who dont want to work?....

don't believe in Capitalism? there is no unemployment under true capitalism, only underpayment.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The left like to brag about California's economy but they don't like to talk about how politicians have spent money that has yet to be made. They are in trouble. Big trouble. Look at the districts represented by Pelosi and Waters. If you live in San Fran, you are lucky if you can afford to live indoors. Housing shortage and insane rates to rent. If you live in Water's district, you also might be the proud owner of a cardboard house. Looks like a third world country.

This is the result of leftist policies. Simple as that. Tax payers are paying thousands of bureaucrats to give more of their tax dollars away. The state wants people on welfare. Policies have ensured a housing shortage, raising rents to ridiculous rates. Their high taxes on energy hurt everyone, especially the poor. The raise in minimum wage made more jobs disappear and didn't help anyone on welfare. Liberals and leftists are experts at making money disappear with zero results. And they think the entire country should follow their lead.

Of course, they also insist that tax payers foot the bill for providing millions of illegal aliens with food, housing, healthcare and education. And the illegals that do work send most of their money back to Mexico so they don't help the economy here.

Not to mention the fact that California does not have the money to pay for the excessively high pension payments and that would mean each household being responsible for paying $60,000 each. The amount grows each year. California is a shining example of how implementing the Cloward-Piven plan can take us down. That is the endgame. They encourage illegal immigration and spend tens of billions each year to protect them so they can help the left get and permanently keep power.

So many useful idiots allow them to get away with this crap.


"Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls.

Further contributing to the poverty problem is California’s housing crisis. More than four in 10 households spent more than 30% of their income on housing in 2015. A shortage of available units has driven prices ever higher, far above income increases. And that shortage is a direct outgrowth of misguided policies.

“Counties and local governments have imposed restrictive land-use regulations that drove up the price of land and dwellings,” explains analyst Wendell Cox. “Middle-income households have been forced to accept lower standards of living while the less fortunate have been driven into poverty by the high cost of housing.” The California Environmental Quality Act, passed in 1971, is one example; it can add $1 million to the cost of completing a housing development, says Todd Williams, an Oakland attorney who chairs the Wendel Rosen Black & Dean land-use group. CEQA costs have been known to shut down entire homebuilding projects. CEQA reform would help increase housing supply, but there’s no real movement to change the law.
Extensive environmental regulations aimed at reducing carbon dioxide emissions make energy more expensive, also hurting the poor. By some estimates, California energy costs are as much as 50% higher than the national average. Jonathan A. Lesser of Continental Economics, author of a 2015 Manhattan Institute study, “Less Carbon, Higher Prices,” found that “in 2012, nearly 1 million California households faced … energy expenditures exceeding 10% of household income. In certain California counties, the rate of energy poverty was as high as 15% of all households.” A Pacific Research Institute study by Wayne Winegarden found that the rate could exceed 17% of median income in some areas.

Looking to help poor and low-income residents, California lawmakers recently passed a measure raising the minimum wage from $10 an hour to $15 an hour by 2022 — but a higher minimum wage will do nothing for the 60% of Californians who live in poverty and don’t have jobs. And research indicates that it could cause many who do have jobs to lose them. A Harvard University study found evidence that “higher minimum wages increase overall exit rates for restaurants” in the Bay Area, where more than a dozen cities and counties, including San Francisco, have changed their minimum-wage ordinances in the last five years. “Estimates suggest that a one-dollar increase in the minimum wage leads to a 14% increase in the likelihood of exit for a 3.5-star restaurant (which is the median rating),” the report says. These restaurants are a significant source of employment for low-skilled and entry-level workers."

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

I must say you did not touch on the real issue which is there is so much work that people can not find housing so must live half way across the state and commute for 2 hours each way. The only poverty is in the mind of the op.

so are you are saying there is no poverty in California?...and the reason people drive for 2 hours to work is because the cant afford to live were the job is....there are people who drive daily from Moreno Vally to Anaheim which is an hour and a half drive with no traffic,traffic and it could be 2....all because the houses were cheaper...

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, could reduce traffic congestion, "overnight".

so who is going to do the work danny if people can just get unemployment because they dont want to work?....and who would be willing to actually work and pay for these people who dont want to work?....

don't believe in Capitalism? there is no unemployment under true capitalism, only underpayment.

danny go find ellis island....i guarantee you its out there....

 

[danielpalos]

I must say you did not touch on the real issue which is there is so much work that people can not find housing so must live half way across the state and commute for 2 hours each way. The only poverty is in the mind of the op.

so are you are saying there is no poverty in California?...and the reason people drive for 2 hours to work is because the cant afford to live were the job is....there are people who drive daily from Moreno Vally to Anaheim which is an hour and a half drive with no traffic,traffic and it could be 2....all because the houses were cheaper...

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, could reduce traffic congestion, "overnight".

so who is going to do the work danny if people can just get unemployment because they dont want to work?....and who would be willing to actually work and pay for these people who dont want to work?....

don't believe in Capitalism? there is no unemployment under true capitalism, only underpayment.

danny go find ellis island....i guarantee you its out there....

Capitalism works, right wingers.

 

[Harry Dresden]

so are you are saying there is no poverty in California?...and the reason people drive for 2 hours to work is because the cant afford to live were the job is....there are people who drive daily from Moreno Vally to Anaheim which is an hour and a half drive with no traffic,traffic and it could be 2....all because the houses were cheaper...

unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, could reduce traffic congestion, "overnight".

so who is going to do the work danny if people can just get unemployment because they dont want to work?....and who would be willing to actually work and pay for these people who dont want to work?....

don't believe in Capitalism? there is no unemployment under true capitalism, only underpayment.

danny go find ellis island....i guarantee you its out there....

Capitalism works, right wingers.

no shit danny.....what else you got?...