Why has this message board got so personal to the left?

I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

All true, Obama is half way to his goal of destroying United States, he now will go after your pocketbook through taxes and fees to bring you to your knees-- Its crazy but Obama followers seem to want a communist country ,and they will get there wish.:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Damn

Obama is turning us into a communist country and "We the People" obviously prefer it to turning us into a Republican country
 
80 years of politics and bubble economies set up the recession. If you are stupid enough to think either party was alone in setting up this mess, you are one of the problems.

Well, we can say, then, it was inevitable from the Big Bang Theory.

In fact, the GOP had the House from 1994 to 2006, two complacent President, and the Senate most of the time. The GOP could have changed factors but elected to not do so.

Until you and others accept that basic fact, then the OP is fail.

80 years, not 1994 to 2006. This is where you fail miserably. The forces were already in play, we were indebted to the point of having to go through a recession. The dot com, followed to the housing bubble, it should have fallen apart in 2001, the finance industry got creative and extended it to 2008, then the end of all the bubbles finally popped. To try to prevent it in the 90's or up until 2006, would have meant a recession at that point. The economy needed to retract, it is a law of economics that created 2008. Not just one party or one anything. It was a government of two parties that started the ball rolling decades ago.

The factors you seem to think would change, are the same factors that politicians today won't change. SPENDING. We borrow way to much, in 2008 businesses, government and families had over extended their credit. Businesses and families are starting to save now and plan. Savings are up, that slows an economy, government has not slowed down at all.

And NO ONE is cutting spending on the government level, the debt grows, and the economy suffers. Cutting will short term slow growth, long term will strengthen the economy.

So the reason no one will make the decision is the same reason it hasn't happened in 80 plus years, whoever starts cutting, no matter how long term beneficial it is, they will lose votes and popularity. Neither party wants that.

The GOP could have changed the factors so that the Great Recession would not have happened. The party leadership preferred an economic melt down to governing responsibly. Yes, the Dems were complacent in the minority.
 
Democrats would not accept that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was acting illegally because the head of the Federal Mortgage Association was Franklin Raines, a black man, and democrats simply rejected the entire concept of a black man acting unlawfully.

Fannie and Freddie were a,small,part of a bigger issue, it was America's over extending themselves. It was government, business and families, not saving and spending like it never had to be paid back. Not a Democrat or Republican issue, it was a mentality and many economist warned it could not continue.
 
I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

It has?
 
Democrats would not accept that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was acting illegally because the head of the Federal Mortgage Association was Franklin Raines, a black man, and democrats simply rejected the entire concept of a black man acting unlawfully.

Fannie and Freddie were a,small,part of a bigger issue, it was America's over extending themselves. It was government, business and families, not saving and spending like it never had to be paid back. Not a Democrat or Republican issue, it was a mentality and many economist warned it could not continue.


I apologize, Papagerogio, I misunderstood you. I agree with you whole heartedly about the personal (family) irresponsibility of Americans during that period. And that is why so many of us did well, in restraining our spending, conserving our liquidity, and then buy low in reality.
 
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Neither election was even close

America has spoken

It prefers a Kenyan over the best candidate Republicans have to offer

You can FEEL that way, but it's not true, nor was it ever true. Which is why even his pretend leadership is ineffective.

Nothing personal

It is "We the People" who feel that way

Given a non-stop smear campaign from the right, We the People prefer a Kenyan over the best the GOP has to offer


Most of "We the People" are uninformed voters.
The majority of voters know very little of what they are voting for. They vote for their party, on both sides.
Many can not name who their Representative is or who their Senators are or even who the VP is let alone any of the issues.
 
Well, we can say, then, it was inevitable from the Big Bang Theory.

In fact, the GOP had the House from 1994 to 2006, two complacent President, and the Senate most of the time. The GOP could have changed factors but elected to not do so.

Until you and others accept that basic fact, then the OP is fail.

80 years, not 1994 to 2006. This is where you fail miserably. The forces were already in play, we were indebted to the point of having to go through a recession. The dot com, followed to the housing bubble, it should have fallen apart in 2001, the finance industry got creative and extended it to 2008, then the end of all the bubbles finally popped. To try to prevent it in the 90's or up until 2006, would have meant a recession at that point. The economy needed to retract, it is a law of economics that created 2008. Not just one party or one anything. It was a government of two parties that started the ball rolling decades ago.

The factors you seem to think would change, are the same factors that politicians today won't change. SPENDING. We borrow way to much, in 2008 businesses, government and families had over extended their credit. Businesses and families are starting to save now and plan. Savings are up, that slows an economy, government has not slowed down at all.

And NO ONE is cutting spending on the government level, the debt grows, and the economy suffers. Cutting will short term slow growth, long term will strengthen the economy.

So the reason no one will make the decision is the same reason it hasn't happened in 80 plus years, whoever starts cutting, no matter how long term beneficial it is, they will lose votes and popularity. Neither party wants that.

The GOP could have changed the factors so that the Great Recession would not have happened. The party leadership preferred an economic melt down to governing responsibly. Yes, the Dems were complacent in the minority.

What could they have changed? You had a dot com bubble going on, had they changed the laws on borrowing, it would have collapsed the economy in the 90's. then you have banks loaning people 125% of the value of their homes? Stop it and it would have hurt the economy. Sending us into a recession. Why not stop the credit card boom of the 70's? That is what got us out of that recession.

So tell me oh wise one, what would you have done?
 
I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

All true, Obama is half way to his goal of destroying United States, he now will go after your pocketbook through taxes and fees to bring you to your knees-- Its crazy but Obama followers seem to want a communist country ,and they will get there wish.:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

How true!

A certain part of the population already votes in a mindless lockstep, just like the people in Cuba and North Korea do.

In Obama they see Kim Jong Il and Fidel Castro personified.
 
obama was not overwhelmingly elected. In 2012 he was elected with fewer votes than in 2008. He was elected with a bare majority of 1%. That's the people who voted. More people didn't vote for obama than voted for him. To democrats it's an overwhelming majority. They are motivated by feelings and that makes them feel good. The reality is, obama won election by such a small number that those who still oppose him are enough to make the country ungovernable.

Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.
 
Neither election was even close

America has spoken

It prefers a Kenyan over the best candidate Republicans have to offer

You can FEEL that way, but it's not true, nor was it ever true. Which is why even his pretend leadership is ineffective.

Nothing personal

It is "We the People" who feel that way

Given a non-stop smear campaign from the right, We the People prefer a Kenyan over the best the GOP has to offer

It's not We the People. It's We OUR people. The rest of the people will not accept his leadership or lack of leadership.

If you look at it realistically, what would be the result if a republican had been elected? Would democrats accept his leadership? No. Another republican that won by the same small margin as obama did would be treated just like Bush was. I guarantee you that if Romney had won with 51% of the votes, no democrat would be saying We the People.

The nation is dividing with each side unwilling to accept the other. The left and right are building entire support structures. They each have their own media, their own news outlets, their own institutions, increasingly their own schools, their own cities. Sometimes, even their own states. Fewer and fewer even deal with one another on a personal level. As was true in times of the Civil War, entire families have separated.

It's called political segregation. Sometimes called clustering. Democrats can look around, see all those other democrats and honestly believe they have an overwhelming majority. They don't. It is worse than that, because neither side is willing to accept the political leadership of the other side. That's why there is gridlock in politics. It's why both democrats and republicans view the other side not merely political opposition but downright enemies.

That's why differences are more personal and more partisan. Running around blathering about "we the people" isn't going to change that.
 
obama was not overwhelmingly elected. In 2012 he was elected with fewer votes than in 2008. He was elected with a bare majority of 1%. That's the people who voted. More people didn't vote for obama than voted for him. To democrats it's an overwhelming majority. They are motivated by feelings and that makes them feel good. The reality is, obama won election by such a small number that those who still oppose him are enough to make the country ungovernable.

Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.

It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.
 
obama was not overwhelmingly elected. In 2012 he was elected with fewer votes than in 2008. He was elected with a bare majority of 1%. That's the people who voted. More people didn't vote for obama than voted for him. To democrats it's an overwhelming majority. They are motivated by feelings and that makes them feel good. The reality is, obama won election by such a small number that those who still oppose him are enough to make the country ungovernable.

Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.

It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.

OP. The cause is the most divisive president in history.
 
Sounds like the OP is living in a dream world.

The country is moving forward.

The party of Lincoln and Reagan is dying a slow and painful death caused by the CANCER that is the Tea Party extremists.

Cling to your guns and your bible and be a joke. We don't care. Your gay sons will not be ashamed to be gay. You daughters will have their privacy violated. Wife beaters and mental patients will lose the guns.

If you put up a fight, you will meet the same end as Randy Weaver and family.

Your spokesman Wayne LaPierre went on TV and said basically we shouldn't have traffic lights because criminals fleeing a bank robbery won't stop at them.

Can you imagine anything more retarded?

Can you?
 
I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

can you direct me to any post where you gave facts?

I must have missed them
 
Sounds like the OP is living in a dream world.

The country is moving forward.

The party of Lincoln and Reagan is dying a slow and painful death caused by the CANCER that is the Tea Party extremists.

Cling to your guns and your bible and be a joke. We don't care. Your gay sons will not be ashamed to be gay. You daughters will have their privacy violated. Wife beaters and mental patients will lose the guns.

If you put up a fight, you will meet the same end as Randy Weaver and family.

Your spokesman Wayne LaPierre went on TV and said basically we shouldn't have traffic lights because criminals fleeing a bank robbery won't stop at them.

Can you imagine anything more retarded?

Can you?

YEAH! Pretty much all your posts.
 
Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.

It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.

OP. The cause is the most divisive president in history.

We have the most divisive president in history because we have the most divided people in history.
 
You must be a racist. Obama is great. The country is doing great. Obama can't fix 232 years of mistakes in 4 years.....
:lol:

The only minority left in this great nation is the white male
either way
I thought BHO was 1/2 white anyway

And yes your spot on
as hard as BHO is trying he cannot change the greatness that once was over night

I wonder if the right would hate Obama less if he were 100% white?

They certainly wouldn't hate him less if he were 100% black.

I think Obama is a basically good guy who is in over his head, but Romney would have been a vastly worse choice. He'd have had us in Civil War in 8 years.

You are the one that brings up skin color. I doubt very seriously that you would understand that O is incompetent and it has nothing to do with skin color.
 
It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.

OP. The cause is the most divisive president in history.

We have the most divisive president in history because we have the most divided people in history.

civil war ????
 

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