Why Does The Left Hate Israel?

[Katzndogz]

It's amazing how much fun genocide is when they are not your children denying.


Luckily most Jews and Israelis know enough about Hitler to find your comment as sick as it is.

Palestininans strap suicide bombs onto their own children. So while it is true that palestinian children are dying, it's also true that the palestinians are the ones killing them. Can there be anything more disgusting than a palestinian father holding his son so that the child could be shot by a palestinian sniper and blamed on Israel? No. But that is exactly what happened to Mohammed Al-Dura.

This is a war to the death. It will not stop until one side or the other is wiped out. The arabs understand this very well. Israel must be annihilated. Wiped off the face of the earth. Their apologists not so much.

What is, after the OK City Murrah Building bombing (which housed a daycare center), non-Americans said:


Americans set off bombs at their own daycare centers, killing their own children. So while it is true that American children are dying, it's also true that the Americans are the ones killing them.


Would that be a fair and accurate statement?

Not really, because the parents of the children at the daycare center didn't strap suicide bombs on their own children. Palestinian parents DO. And not once, but many, many, MANY times. I would not condemn the palestinian people because a deranged palestinian blew up a pizza place. He was deranged. It wasn't supported by the majority of palestinians. But that's not what happens. What happened was daily bombs until palestine was put on lock down. It happened to pizza places, stores, buses, and even parks. These acts are supported by the palestinians who praise the bombers and make them national heroes. Every time a suicide bomber killed Jews, parents would bring in five more children to take their place. And that did not happen in the Murrah bombing.

 

[paulitician]

This Election just got a lot more interesting. American Jews will have their say on Election Day. All i can say is, this was a colossol blunder by the Democrats.

 

[Newby]

Palestininans strap suicide bombs onto their own children. So while it is true that palestinian children are dying, it's also true that the palestinians are the ones killing them. Can there be anything more disgusting than a palestinian father holding his son so that the child could be shot by a palestinian sniper and blamed on Israel? No. But that is exactly what happened to Mohammed Al-Dura.

This is a war to the death. It will not stop until one side or the other is wiped out. The arabs understand this very well. Israel must be annihilated. Wiped off the face of the earth. Their apologists not so much.

What is, after the OK City Murrah Building bombing (which housed a daycare center), non-Americans said:


Americans set off bombs at their own daycare centers, killing their own children. So while it is true that American children are dying, it's also true that the Americans are the ones killing them.


Would that be a fair and accurate statement?

Not really, because the parents of the children at the daycare center didn't strap suicide bombs on their own children. Palestinian parents DO. And not once, but many, many, MANY times. I would not condemn the palestinian people because a deranged palestinian blew up a pizza place. He was deranged. It wasn't supported by the majority of palestinians. But that's not what happens. What happened was daily bombs until palestine was put on lock down. It happened to pizza places, stores, buses, and even parks. These acts are supported by the palestinians who praise the bombers and make them national heroes. Every time a suicide bomber killed Jews, parents would bring in five more children to take their place. And that did not happen in the Murrah bombing.

Sad that it had to even be explained. I would guess that most would understand that to begin with and not make such ridiculous comparisons to begin with. There's a lot of stupid people in this world.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This Election just got a lot more interesting. American Jews will have their say on Election Day. All i can say is, this was a colossol blunder by the Democrats.

Colossal.

And that term pales with respect to the mismanagement!


Juxtapose same with the kudos the '08 campaign received for 'brilliance.' (Not from me, though.)


My point...the removal of the planks at issue from the Democrat platform, was their version of Operation Barbarossa.

History buffs will get the reference.

 

[bripat9643]

What the hell is a "leftist"?

You.

 

[freedombecki]

You're a <Freudian Stage II reference omitted> idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

It's ludicrous to accuse anyone of wanting perpetual war, and it is also a bald-faced lying liar's methodology for strangling the truth out to gain power over people you fool, and it doesn't pass muster here, Mr. Tuck.

What is it about the OP that you did not understand? You asked the question she stated an answer to on your third sentence. Somehow, leftist ethnic persons disassociate themselves from their roots and instead of supporting, jerk the carpet out from under the homeland of their forbears. We on the right don't know why that is, we just know that that generally, but not always is.

I can appreciate wanting to consider oneself better or superior to others, but in Israel, they're having rockets lobbed at them at regular intervals, and it's so frequent they started cataloging the kills and injuries to people who actually live in Israel.

Their adversaries caught on and learned from the Iraq situation in which the Islamofascist carried the same child's body around claiming a different offense in three dozen different locations with the same dead child before he was caught by a cameraman who remembered the child's clothing at another location, looked closer and noticed it was the same dead kid.

Now, it is commonplace for members of Hamas to do the same kind of dead-horse beating, copying Israel, and claiming "murders" for people who die, saving the corpses and heaping them on a pile when Israel retaliates.

Just how stupid do they think we are? And you guys play like this kind of balderdash does not go on, but it does go on.

 

[salem.hills]

You're a fucking idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

How many times have the Palestinians been offered a two state solution?? They don't want an Israeli state, period. They never will, and their sole reason for existance is to eventually annhilate the state of Israel and any Jews that live there. Otherwise, there would have been peace 30 to 40 years ago, peace is not the goal, not for the Palestinians or any of their supporters.

And as far as the op goes, it's right on target, the left sides with the Palestinians in every way.

Yes they will never give Israel peace, and voted secretly many times and that proved it by being leaked out to ....its their bad

 

[Darkwind]

You're a fucking idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

No, that is not what the question is.

The question is a matter of honoring our commitment to an ally.

But there is little concept of loyalty with primates.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This Election just got a lot more interesting. American Jews will have their say on Election Day. All i can say is, this was a colossol blunder by the Democrats.

LOL, a Ron Paul cult member is attacking someone ELSE for hating the Jews???

LOL

 

[Moonglow]

Yesterday many of us viewed the circular firing squad known as the Democrat Party.

The following gives context to the spectacle....


"WHY DOES THE LEFT HATE ISRAEL?

For decades, most American Jews have believed there were far greater threats from the fringe right than the fringe left in this country. While this view may have been reasonable in the past, it is certainly not so today. The fringe right still exists&#8212; the neo&#8212;Nazis in Northwest Idaho, Matthew Hale, and David Duke, and the remnants of the KKK. But the views of the fringe right have been marginalized by their repudiation by virtually all mainstream elements on the political right.

The fringe left, on the other hand, has evolved into a broader left, and become more mainstream. The political perspective of this new left is vehemently anti&#8212;Israel, and the power and reach of this movement represent a real threat to Israel, and by extension to Jews who support Israel.

The left in this country includes large numbers of academics, journalists, human rights activists, environmental and animal rights activists, entertainers, and some church groups, women's groups, racial advocacy groups and unions. There are also liberals who are members of these same groups. I distinguish between leftists and liberals by one key test: how they feel about the country in which they live. If you tend to regard America as a primarily flawed, evil, unjust, racist country (or at least when Republicans are running it), and most importantly, believe that the US is the primary threat to world peace internationally, then you are a leftist, and not a liberal.

I believe there are several reasons:

1. It is an easy way to express one's hatred for America.

2. Israel is viewed as an outpost of colonialism , and an active practitioner of it.

3. Israel is a western nation, and hence can be judged by the left. Israel is not protected by cultural relativism, as the Arabs are.

4. Leftist Christian churches can escape any lingering guilt about the Holocaust, by turning Israel into a villain. Some leftist churches hate Israel because they think this will help protect their members in the holy land&#8212; in other words they feel threatened.

5. Ferocious Muslim hatred of Israel and the Jews reinforces the natural cowardice of many on the left who go along with the Muslims to stay out of their line of fire.

6. Jewish leftists are prominent in the anti&#8212;Israel movement. This opens the floodgates for everybody else.

7. Israel is attacked because the secular left is appalled by the influence of religious settlers and their biblical connections to the land of Israel, and by the support for Israel by evangelical Christians, and Christian Zionists."
Archived-Articles: Why Does the Left Hate Israel?


Also from the article, and clearly directed at Jewish Obama-supporters:
"The reason for this hypocrisy I think is the triumph in the academy, and among many in the journalistic profession and the intelligentsia of many western nations, of the noxious notion of moral and especially cultural relativism....that Israel faces far greater threats from the left than the right."


Be aware.

Are we suppose to go down on Israel to show you how much the dems are like the GOP?

One of my long time Jewish friend that used to live in London, moved to Israel. I still talk to him and he loves living in Israel, a socialist nation.
They get alot of support from the dems that you claim hate Israel.What is it? About 60 billion?

 

[Moonglow]

You're a fucking idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

No, that is not what the question is.

The question is a matter of honoring our commitment to an ally.

But there is little concept of loyalty with primates.

Is Isreal our only allie?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The simpletons on the Right believe that if you're not a militarist, imperialist, neocon,

you must be anti-Semitic.

 

[Moonglow]

But Israel does not have control of all Jeruselam, do they need another king like David to finish the job?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You're a fucking idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

No, that is not what the question is.

The question is a matter of honoring our commitment to an ally.

But there is little concept of loyalty with primates.

Israel isn't an ally; it's a dependent.

 

[Dot Com]

The simpletons on the Right believe that if you're not a militarist, imperialist, neocon,

you must be anti-Semitic.

^ that

The christians on the right want to bring about the destruction of israel to precipitate the 2nd- coming so they'll "pal @ w/ them" until that is achieved.

 

[Moonglow]

The simpletons on the Right believe that if you're not a militarist, imperialist, neocon,

you must be anti-Semitic.

But isn't that what GOPers' always do? Let Israel pull them aroung by the rings in their noses?

 

[Moonglow]

You're a <Freudian Stage II reference omitted> idiot. The question should be why the right wants perpetual war in the Middle East? Why does the Republican Party support this Armageddon policy? Why do most Israelis and Jews around the world, support a two state solution?

It's ludicrous to accuse anyone of wanting perpetual war, and it is also a bald-faced lying liar's methodology for strangling the truth out to gain power over people you fool, and it doesn't pass muster here, Mr. Tuck.

What is it about the OP that you did not understand? You asked the question she stated an answer to on your third sentence. Somehow, leftist ethnic persons disassociate themselves from their roots and instead of supporting, jerk the carpet out from under the homeland of their forbears. We on the right don't know why that is, we just know that that generally, but not always is.

I can appreciate wanting to consider oneself better or superior to others, but in Israel, they're having rockets lobbed at them at regular intervals, and it's so frequent they started cataloging the kills and injuries to people who actually live in Israel.

Their adversaries caught on and learned from the Iraq situation in which the Islamofascist carried the same child's body around claiming a different offense in three dozen different locations with the same dead child before he was caught by a cameraman who remembered the child's clothing at another location, looked closer and noticed it was the same dead kid.

Now, it is commonplace for members of Hamas to do the same kind of dead-horse beating, copying Israel, and claiming "murders" for people who die, saving the corpses and heaping them on a pile when Israel retaliates.

Just how stupid do they think we are? And you guys play like this kind of balderdash does not go on, but it does go on.

How is Israel the land of our forbears(as you call it)?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Palestininans strap suicide bombs onto their own children. So while it is true that palestinian children are dying, it's also true that the palestinians are the ones killing them. Can there be anything more disgusting than a palestinian father holding his son so that the child could be shot by a palestinian sniper and blamed on Israel? No. But that is exactly what happened to Mohammed Al-Dura.

This is a war to the death. It will not stop until one side or the other is wiped out. The arabs understand this very well. Israel must be annihilated. Wiped off the face of the earth. Their apologists not so much.

What is, after the OK City Murrah Building bombing (which housed a daycare center), non-Americans said:


Americans set off bombs at their own daycare centers, killing their own children. So while it is true that American children are dying, it's also true that the Americans are the ones killing them.


Would that be a fair and accurate statement?

Not really, because the parents of the children at the daycare center didn't strap suicide bombs on their own children. Palestinian parents DO. And not once, but many, many, MANY times. I would not condemn the palestinian people because a deranged palestinian blew up a pizza place. He was deranged. It wasn't supported by the majority of palestinians. But that's not what happens. What happened was daily bombs until palestine was put on lock down. It happened to pizza places, stores, buses, and even parks. These acts are supported by the palestinians who praise the bombers and make them national heroes. Every time a suicide bomber killed Jews, parents would bring in five more children to take their place. And that did not happen in the Murrah bombing.

That never happened and your blaming Muhammad al dura for killing his son? How mental are you? You have no knowledge on this subject

 

[Saigon]

What the hell is a "leftist"?

You.

Right. And didn't you claim yesterday that fascim was left wing?

You may not be the best person to comment on political theory!

 

[Saigon]

Not one honest Leftist here. Sad, very sad.

You started with a dishonest and disingenuous statement and then asked "leftists" to debate it at that level.

Present stronger positions and you might get more bites.