Why Do Those Who Are Not Wealthy Support Trump ?

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yea, poor people, especially blacks, did so well under Obama.

Are they suddenly doing better under trump?

Stock market record highs, huge tax breaks, lowest unemployment for black in many many years and businesses investing in their employees. Yea, they are doing better. But feel free to lie about it in your response.

And please explain EXACTLY what T Rump did to deserve credit for any of this.

For one, he cut taxes on corporations which gives them reason to invest more in their companies. Those who were considering leaving our country now have a reason to stay. He cut DumBama job killing regulations and recently, removed the employer mandate.

Businesses don't like to guess what's going to happen, they want to know. When you had the most anti-business President in our lifetime running the show, businesses didn't know what to think. Trump is pro-business; he always was. So now businesses feel they finally have somebody in their corner in the federal government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yea, poor people, especially blacks, did so well under Obama.

Didn’t Obama’s create more jobs in 2016 than trump did in 2017?

Yes he did, part-time jobs. Our counties economy was sluggish until the price of fuel came down which DumBama had nothing to do with. Most everybody had more disposable income across the board. One of my former coworkers at the time traveled over an hour from where he lived to get to work. He stated he was saving hundreds of dollars between gasoline and lower natural gas prices. That's real money which of course will help stimulate the economy.

 

[sealybobo]

Many of Trumps supports who voted for him and are sticking by him are not well off. While it is true that the further up the income ladder you go, the great support the support for Trump was in 2016, amazingly 41 % of those earning under $30K and 42% of those earning between $30 and $50K voted for him:

http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11/#by-income-clinton-led-only-among-voters-with-a-2015-family-income-under-50000-a-group-that-included-36-of-the-voters-in-the-exit-polls-4

Yes, during the campaign, he made many promises to the working middle class which, of course went out the window in the form of the recent tax giveaway to the wealthy. Yet, I have seen little evidence that those people are abandoning him in large numbers

What is going on here? Trump once said, ' I love the poorly educated" Yes, he does and for good reason. They have been easily duped into supporting him, and continuing to support him despite the fact that everything that Trump does and everything that he says indicates that it is the wealthy and privileged - who tend to be better educated that he really "loves". The connection between education and wealth /income is irrefutable

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-strauss/the-connection-between-ed_b_1066401.html

High and rising income inequality in the United States has recently been widely commented upon. What has not been as widely discussed is the role educational attainment has played in these disparities. Indeed, America is in some ways two different countries economically, segregated by educational achievement.

Or ….. are there other forces at work that intersect at Trump . Let’s consider cognitive abilities*- which are highly indicative of educational level- and race

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Lower cognitive abilities predict greater prejudice through right wing ideology

Hodson and Busseri (2012) found in a correlational study that lower intelligence in childhood is predictive of greater racism in adulthood, with this effect being mediated (partially explained) through conservative ideology.

They also found poor abstract reasoning skills were related to homophobic attitudes which was mediated through authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact.

What this study and those before it suggests is not necessarily that all liberals are geniuses and all conservatives are ignorant. Rather, it makes conclusions based off of averages of groups. The idea is that for those who lack a cognitive ability to grasp complexities of our world, strict-right wing ideologies may be more appealing.

Bottom line: Lower intelligence equals low income Trump Supporters who have a marked tendency toward racism.

Those same people tend to own guns as well and Trump is not a big fan of gun control:

http://www.guns.com/2013/11/03/study-finds-correlation-racism-white-gun-owners-video/

There’s is a positive correlation between symbolic racism amongst white Americans and gun ownership, according to the results of a new international study published in PLoS One, the peer-reviewed scientific journal

The study, “Racism, Gun Ownership and Gun Control: Biased Attitudes in US Whites May Influence Policy Decisions,” conducted by researchers from Britain’s Manchester University and Australia’s Monash University, collected data from white U.S. voters and found that for each one point increase (on a scale from one to five) in symbolic racism there was a 50 percent increase in the odds that the respondent had a firearm in the home. This political reality did not spring up overnight.

The picture is almost complete: A high correlation between support for Trump, low cognitive ability, racism and now guns. But there is one more variable to consider, the role of religion. We know that a good deal of Trumps support comes from religious zealots, namely the Evangelicals. Why is that? It turns out that it ties in very neatly with the intelligence factor:

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266

A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity. The association was stronger for college students and the general population than for participants younger than college age; it was also stronger for religious beliefs than religious behavior. For college students and the general population, means of weighted and unweighted correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25 (mean r = −.24). Three possible interpretations were discussed. First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.

So there we have it the complete picture -Intelligence and cognitive ability, Race, Guns, and now Religion. My work is done here.

* https://www.education.com/reference/article/iq-school-achievement/

It’s great to see you leftwing nutjobs still don’t get why President Trump won.

Actually, I do get it as I have documented right here. Stupidity, racism, guns and clinging to the bible.

Try again, TheRegressiveTraitor. People are waking up and realizing that everything about leftwing “progressives” is a total lie.

The culture war the left is waging against Western civilization is in full swing. It’s an ideology that seeks to remove masculinity from men while encouraging women to be more masculine, while removing femininity from women and teaching boys to more feminine. An ideology that teaches that European culture in America is inherently racist, and that the mere existence of whites is oppressive. An ideology that claims it’s for women’s rights, yet embraces and promotes Islam and unlimited Muslim immigration.

The people see what bullshit the globalist progressives are pushing, and the American people aren’t buying it.

Impossible. The people were just bribed with a tax break we can’t afford. I expect things to be good the next couple years but let’s wait and see if republinomics works long term. I’m not going to tell you what’s going to happen but when your middle class life is no better in 2022 we will talk then.

 

[sealybobo]

Yea, poor people, especially blacks, did so well under Obama.

Didn’t Obama’s create more jobs in 2016 than trump did in 2017?

Yes he did, part-time jobs. Our counties economy was sluggish until the price of fuel came down which DumBama had nothing to do with. Most everybody had more disposable income across the board. One of my former coworkers at the time traveled over an hour from where he lived to get to work. He stated he was saving hundreds of dollars between gasoline and lower natural gas prices. That's real money which of course will help stimulate the economy.

And trumps going to raise the gas tax

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Trump supporters are retarded. Yesterday Drudge was celebrating the 4th quarter's 2.6% GDP growth as if Christ had descended from the heavens.

Jesus was a dirty socialist with a fake birth certificate from a shithole country in the ME, if the Romans had build a wall to keep people like him out their empire would still be great....

 

[Oldstyle]

Many of Trumps supports who voted for him and are sticking by him are not well off. While it is true that the further up the income ladder you go, the great support the support for Trump was in 2016, amazingly 41 % of those earning under $30K and 42% of those earning between $30 and $50K voted for him:

http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11/#by-income-clinton-led-only-among-voters-with-a-2015-family-income-under-50000-a-group-that-included-36-of-the-voters-in-the-exit-polls-4

Yes, during the campaign, he made many promises to the working middle class which, of course went out the window in the form of the recent tax giveaway to the wealthy. Yet, I have seen little evidence that those people are abandoning him in large numbers

What is going on here? Trump once said, ' I love the poorly educated" Yes, he does and for good reason. They have been easily duped into supporting him, and continuing to support him despite the fact that everything that Trump does and everything that he says indicates that it is the wealthy and privileged - who tend to be better educated that he really "loves". The connection between education and wealth /income is irrefutable

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-strauss/the-connection-between-ed_b_1066401.html

High and rising income inequality in the United States has recently been widely commented upon. What has not been as widely discussed is the role educational attainment has played in these disparities. Indeed, America is in some ways two different countries economically, segregated by educational achievement.

Or ….. are there other forces at work that intersect at Trump . Let’s consider cognitive abilities*- which are highly indicative of educational level- and race

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Lower cognitive abilities predict greater prejudice through right wing ideology

Hodson and Busseri (2012) found in a correlational study that lower intelligence in childhood is predictive of greater racism in adulthood, with this effect being mediated (partially explained) through conservative ideology.

They also found poor abstract reasoning skills were related to homophobic attitudes which was mediated through authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact.

What this study and those before it suggests is not necessarily that all liberals are geniuses and all conservatives are ignorant. Rather, it makes conclusions based off of averages of groups. The idea is that for those who lack a cognitive ability to grasp complexities of our world, strict-right wing ideologies may be more appealing.

Bottom line: Lower intelligence equals low income Trump Supporters who have a marked tendency toward racism.

Those same people tend to own guns as well and Trump is not a big fan of gun control:

http://www.guns.com/2013/11/03/study-finds-correlation-racism-white-gun-owners-video/

There’s is a positive correlation between symbolic racism amongst white Americans and gun ownership, according to the results of a new international study published in PLoS One, the peer-reviewed scientific journal

The study, “Racism, Gun Ownership and Gun Control: Biased Attitudes in US Whites May Influence Policy Decisions,” conducted by researchers from Britain’s Manchester University and Australia’s Monash University, collected data from white U.S. voters and found that for each one point increase (on a scale from one to five) in symbolic racism there was a 50 percent increase in the odds that the respondent had a firearm in the home. This political reality did not spring up overnight.

The picture is almost complete: A high correlation between support for Trump, low cognitive ability, racism and now guns. But there is one more variable to consider, the role of religion. We know that a good deal of Trumps support comes from religious zealots, namely the Evangelicals. Why is that? It turns out that it ties in very neatly with the intelligence factor:

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266

A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity. The association was stronger for college students and the general population than for participants younger than college age; it was also stronger for religious beliefs than religious behavior. For college students and the general population, means of weighted and unweighted correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25 (mean r = −.24). Three possible interpretations were discussed. First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.

So there we have it the complete picture -Intelligence and cognitive ability, Race, Guns, and now Religion. My work is done here.

* https://www.education.com/reference/article/iq-school-achievement/

LOL...still trying to convince yourself that you libs are somehow "smarter" than conservatives, PeePee?

Keep taking that tact! Seriously. Keep on insulting the people who simply don't believe you anymore when you promise them free stuff for their votes. See how that works out for you...

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump supporters are retarded. Yesterday Drudge was celebrating the 4th quarter's 2.6% GDP growth as if Christ had descended from the heavens.

Yup the same kind of GDP they crucified Obammy for.

 

[petro]

Many of Trumps supports who voted for him and are sticking by him are not well off. While it is true that the further up the income ladder you go, the great support the support for Trump was in 2016, amazingly 41 % of those earning under $30K and 42% of those earning between $30 and $50K voted for him:

http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11/#by-income-clinton-led-only-among-voters-with-a-2015-family-income-under-50000-a-group-that-included-36-of-the-voters-in-the-exit-polls-4

Yes, during the campaign, he made many promises to the working middle class which, of course went out the window in the form of the recent tax giveaway to the wealthy. Yet, I have seen little evidence that those people are abandoning him in large numbers

What is going on here? Trump once said, ' I love the poorly educated" Yes, he does and for good reason. They have been easily duped into supporting him, and continuing to support him despite the fact that everything that Trump does and everything that he says indicates that it is the wealthy and privileged - who tend to be better educated that he really "loves". The connection between education and wealth /income is irrefutable

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-strauss/the-connection-between-ed_b_1066401.html

High and rising income inequality in the United States has recently been widely commented upon. What has not been as widely discussed is the role educational attainment has played in these disparities. Indeed, America is in some ways two different countries economically, segregated by educational achievement.

Or ….. are there other forces at work that intersect at Trump . Let’s consider cognitive abilities*- which are highly indicative of educational level- and race

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Lower cognitive abilities predict greater prejudice through right wing ideology

Hodson and Busseri (2012) found in a correlational study that lower intelligence in childhood is predictive of greater racism in adulthood, with this effect being mediated (partially explained) through conservative ideology.

They also found poor abstract reasoning skills were related to homophobic attitudes which was mediated through authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact.

What this study and those before it suggests is not necessarily that all liberals are geniuses and all conservatives are ignorant. Rather, it makes conclusions based off of averages of groups. The idea is that for those who lack a cognitive ability to grasp complexities of our world, strict-right wing ideologies may be more appealing.

Bottom line: Lower intelligence equals low income Trump Supporters who have a marked tendency toward racism.

Those same people tend to own guns as well and Trump is not a big fan of gun control:

http://www.guns.com/2013/11/03/study-finds-correlation-racism-white-gun-owners-video/

There’s is a positive correlation between symbolic racism amongst white Americans and gun ownership, according to the results of a new international study published in PLoS One, the peer-reviewed scientific journal

The study, “Racism, Gun Ownership and Gun Control: Biased Attitudes in US Whites May Influence Policy Decisions,” conducted by researchers from Britain’s Manchester University and Australia’s Monash University, collected data from white U.S. voters and found that for each one point increase (on a scale from one to five) in symbolic racism there was a 50 percent increase in the odds that the respondent had a firearm in the home. This political reality did not spring up overnight.

The picture is almost complete: A high correlation between support for Trump, low cognitive ability, racism and now guns. But there is one more variable to consider, the role of religion. We know that a good deal of Trumps support comes from religious zealots, namely the Evangelicals. Why is that? It turns out that it ties in very neatly with the intelligence factor:

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266

A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity. The association was stronger for college students and the general population than for participants younger than college age; it was also stronger for religious beliefs than religious behavior. For college students and the general population, means of weighted and unweighted correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25 (mean r = −.24). Three possible interpretations were discussed. First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.

So there we have it the complete picture -Intelligence and cognitive ability, Race, Guns, and now Religion. My work is done here.

* https://www.education.com/reference/article/iq-school-achievement/

It’s great to see you leftwing nutjobs still don’t get why President Trump won.

Actually, I do get it as I have documented right here. Stupidity, racism, guns and clinging to the bible.

Still clinging to bitterness, poison rhetoric and gross generalizations.
The very moronic and devisive talking points that lost your ilk the election.
Please keep it up as it shows the complete contempt that the DFL has towards half the population.
Go with that "winning" strategy.

Irony is a moron claiming superior intelligence.
You are very ironic.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Lack of education.

Again.

Is this an indictment on our current educational system?

A condemnation of our teachers?

 

[Nia88]

Lack of education.

Again.

Is this an indictment on our current educational system?

A condemnation of our teachers?

No. It's an issue of the culture. America's attitude towards higher education is poor. There isn't a enough emphasis on it because 1) It cost a ridiculous amount of money to attend university. No other western country has their people taking out loans just to attend.
2) There are certain groups of Americans (mainly conservatives) who shun higher education.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yea, poor people, especially blacks, did so well under Obama.

Didn’t Obama’s create more jobs in 2016 than trump did in 2017?

Yes he did, part-time jobs. Our counties economy was sluggish until the price of fuel came down which DumBama had nothing to do with. Most everybody had more disposable income across the board. One of my former coworkers at the time traveled over an hour from where he lived to get to work. He stated he was saving hundreds of dollars between gasoline and lower natural gas prices. That's real money which of course will help stimulate the economy.

And trumps going to raise the gas tax

He doesn't have the power to do that, only Congress does. Besides, isn't that what the left wants anyway? If they want all this infrastructure, it has to be paid for somehow. I don't think five cents or so on a a gallon of gas will put us into a recession.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Lack of education.

Again.

Is this an indictment on our current educational system?

A condemnation of our teachers?

No. It's an issue of the culture. America's attitude towards higher education is poor. There isn't a enough emphasis on it because 1) It cost a ridiculous amount of money to attend university. No other western country has their people taking out loans just to attend.
2) There are certain groups of Americans (mainly conservatives) who shun higher education.

It may well be the issue of culture.

America's attitude toward higher education is poor. But it is not just "Conservatives" who shun education.

Most of the "Conservatives" I have met and known in my life have a Military background, are gainfully employed and like most of us who serve or who have served, have extensive educations, degrees or certification related to their technical experience while serving.

It does cost a ridiculous amount of money to attend Universities and there are numerous programs that make it possible to attend.

The reason why people avoid higher education is not because they are "Conservative," it is because they think it is out of reach, or expensive.

Their parents never attended.

They feel they don't have the time because of employment.

They won't fit in.

They didn't do very well in high school.

They don't know what they intend to do in the future and are unsure what to choose as a Major.

Or they think higher education would be too hard.

Your misconception that "Conservatives" are uneducated leaves me to believe you have a false impression of these individuals or are delusional, considering you may not actually know anyone who is "Conservative."

Now before you get your panties in a knot, I do not consider myself a Conservative, but I do have "Conservatives" in my family and as friends and co-workers, and every damned one of us have degrees and/or extensive certifications in their field of expertise.

 

[Unkotare]

Why do people waste time starting these pointless troll threads?

 

[Deno]

Trump supporters are retarded. Yesterday Drudge was celebrating the 4th quarter's 2.6% GDP growth as if Christ had descended from the heavens.

Trump supporters are retarded. Yesterday Drudge was celebrating the 4th quarter's 2.6% GDP growth as if Christ had descended from the heavens.

This is what libtards put in office...

hank johnson guam - Bing video

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Why do people waste time starting these pointless troll threads?

To have those they troll educate them.

 

[Foxfyre]

The idea of earning one's living honestly and honourably is lost on worthless parasites such as TheRegressiveParasite, who can imagine no other way of living than on wealth stolen from others who have worked to produce and earn it. This is the whole of the basis for the OP—that he cannot imagine why those of us who are not wealthy would prefer the opportunity to earn what wealth we can honestly, over having it stolen on our behalf.

This.

The honorable 'poor' are finally waking up to see how destructive and nonproductive the 'big brother' mentality of the liberal left is and the chaos it leaves in its wake. For decades now the liberal left--and that would include some Republicans--have been promising the people what big government was going to do for them if you just give them the power. The are going to invest and invest and invest--that is their favorite word--and give all this free stuff to everybody who isn't really rich, and it is the really rich, other than themselves of course, who will pay for it all.

Sounds really good doesn't it? Except that it is all smoke and mirrors, myth, empty and devoid of anything sustainable even if it is temporarily delivered. And most of it they won't even try to deliver. They don't care about anybody but their own power, prestige, influence, and personal wealth which is why most of them leave office as multi-millionaires while leaving government and the people worse off.

So this time around, the honorable 'poor' elected somebody who wasn't part of that self serving professional permanent political class, who wasn't an ideologue, who wasn't a partisan politician. We elected somebody with a vision of an America in which the honorable 'poor' would have more liberty, choices, options, and opportunity to become less poor or perhaps even well to do. He saw that unleashing American talent, creativity, and ability to work for what we have was the path to prosperity, that changing gang culture, drug culture, and restoration of liberty and basic American values and putting the interests of America first was the way for all Americans to prosper. And no, none of that included trampling on the truly needy or those who need a hand up.

And in that regard, he has not disappointed. The only thing holding us back are those in Congress and some holdovers in the bureaucracy who want to keep the people needy, feeling victimized, and willing to be dependent on big government to solve all their problems.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lack of education.

Again.

Is this an indictment on our current educational system?

A condemnation of our teachers?

No. It's an issue of the culture. America's attitude towards higher education is poor. There isn't a enough emphasis on it because 1) It cost a ridiculous amount of money to attend university. No other western country has their people taking out loans just to attend.
2) There are certain groups of Americans (mainly conservatives) who shun higher education.

It cost a ridiculous amount of money to attend university. No other western country has their people taking out loans just to attend.

The more money government throws at it, the more expensive it becomes. Weird.

 

[SavannahMann]

Because the Democratic Candidate was horrible.

 

[Theowl32]

Pathetic Amerocan socialist morons, such puppets of their left wing elites.

Especially ones like the op. The robin hood fairy tale. Such fucking cliches....or puppet strings.

 

[DOTR]

But I’ll agree trumps stimulus tax giveaway will temporarily make poor people a little happier but ultimately they’ll pay for it. We all will. But hard to complain with more money in my paycheck

Ill agree with you.

Of course cutting spending is out of the question though right? I mean I never hear that come up...as if it is an option that does not exist.