Why do the Democrats keep saying the Republicans want to end medicare or S.S.

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    This is totally a false statement. In Ryans plan he wants it reformed so we have something for us and our children. Plus, his current plan does not affect anyone 55 and above. If something is not done there would be nothing left for us. I know our family is preparing for this. Savings, 401Ks , husband military retirement ect .. We are not going to prepare for us to get social security because their is a lot of doubt that we will even receive it and the way Obama is going that doubt is becoming reality :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Because they are freaking liars.
     
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    Because it works better as a sound bite.It's a page right out of the Libs manual.I saw Paul Ryan say time and time again that anyone over 55 will not be affected one bit.then you go over to MSNBC an hour later and they are all screaming that the Ryan plan will take away the old folks benefits...

    The left plays this one note song and the people on the left accept it as gospel and will run to the polls and vote Democrat.

    Maybe we need a little bit more then voter ID come election day...Maybe a little test would have to be taken every election cycle just to see if those that vote have at least a clue as to what's going on instead of handing over the country to someone with a catchy campaign slogan.
     
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    If it were a false statement, the most vigorous defense of Ryan's proposal wouldn't be:

    Folks 55 or above get Medicare, folks below 55 don't. The gamble with using this as a defense is that while Ryan and his acolytes hope it keeps present-day seniors from deserting the Republicans, it also concedes the fundamental point that they continue to deny. Pick your poison, I suppose.
     
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    The Ryan plan as well as most proposals don't effect current beneficiaries. Plus it doesn't effect those over 55. What it does do is reduce benefits to new retirees that under 55. As medical costs rise these retirees will see benefits fall, eventually reaching a point where Medicare is no more than a small supplement. Yes, it does eventually destroy Medicare, because it does not require any new taxes. It's just you and I won't be around when it does.
     
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    1. Medicare will be insolvent in 2017 say the Trustees

    Trustees Report Summary

    2. Social Security will be bankrupt 2037

    The Dem's claim to "protect" SS & Medicare only guarantee their demise. They need to be modified to guarantee their long-term viability. Revenue enhancers would be a good idea too. I like closing loop-holes, ending subsidies & foreign aid, then impose taxes on Wall Street for short-sales and capital gains. Going after the Hedge Funds is a good idea too.
     
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    J.E.D What's tha matta?

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    Because Republicans do want to end Medicare as we know it and turn it into a voucher system in which seniors would be left to the mercy of the private insurance market. That is a fact.
     
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    What part of IT WILL BE BANKRUPT IN 2017 don't you understand?? FIX IT OR ITS DEAD.
     
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    It beats saying "hey, we just want to keep spending money and for some reason, they want us to stop".
     
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    What part of my post don't you understand, and what does your questionable assertion that Medicare will be bankrupt in 2017 have to do with the fact that Republicans do indeed want to end Medicare as we know it? That is not in debate, it is a fact. Republicans want to turn Medicare into a voucher program, which will end Medicare as we know it.
     

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