Why do Conservatives on the USMB keep insisting Confederates are Liberals????

[Skylar]

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

 

[Kosh]

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

More proof that the racist/bigoted far left drones can only run a narrative and they do believe in dividing up society so they can have their political slavery with their protected classes..

 

[OKTexas]

Yet you find yourself in the minority in both houses.

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

 

[Skylar]

Lets have a hip hip for gerrymandering!

Again, even when we're talking about a mid-term year.....democrats still get more votes than republicans.

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

 

[tinydancer]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Historic win for Republicans right across the board.

Gerrymandering? Kiss my ass.

Like Democrats don't have errrrrrrrrrr interesting boundary lines in their districts?

Ha! Dems take the win with this one.

"So what is one of the worst examples of gerrymandering in the country?

What is the example that the national media uses when talking about gerrymandering?

Illinois' congressional district 4, including parts of Chicago, represented by congressman Luis Gutierrez.

Check out the map below and tell me if you don't think this is the most ridiculous political game ever. Apparently they had to run the district through the middle of Interstate 294 so that they could maintain a contiguous area of homogenous constituents."

Bite me that R's only gerrymander. How's this for redistricting for a freaking win?

Leave it to Illinois to lead the nation in nasty politics."

Illinois Congressional District 4 Worst Example Of Gerrymandering Getting Real

 

[jon_berzerk]

they are democrats

the kkk was democrats as well

 

[OKTexas]

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yep, you're look'n for love in all the wrong places.

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.


2012

 

[Synthaholic]

far left drone

^^^ Tourettes from a retard.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Why do Conservatives on the USMB keep insisting Confederates are Liberals????

Can someone explain that to me? How can they be members of this board and know absolutely nothing about American history? Especially after all the discussion?

Funniest part of today's thread, is where little rdean tries to claim that others don't know American history.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Why do Conservatives on the USMB keep insisting Confederates are Liberals????

Can someone explain that to me? How can they be members of this board and know absolutely nothing about American history? Especially after all the discussion?

This was explained to little rdean many times in past threads. Looks like enough time has passed since then, that he feels he can reopen the subject and pretend ignorance again, and try to fool people into believing it hasn't been explained.

When liberals can't justify their positions on current issues, they just go back and dig up old ones, and hope nobody remembers they already lost the argument on those, too.

Funniest part of today's thread, is where little rdean tries to claim that others don't know American history.

 

[paperview]

You have to understand what 'conservatism' has become in the last 20-25 years. It is led by Faux News and Fish Dumbaugh. These two perpetuate every day big and little lies.

This is what modern conservatism is, the attempt to tell lies over and over and try to make them not only become truth but dogma.

The modern conservative movement is attempting to make lies a foundation to build a movement on. To build their world view on falsehood. And to recruit their base to accept and promote these lies as fact beyond reproach.

But lies are lies. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it. They only way for this type of ideology based on whisps of foul air to succeed is if the party putting forth the big lie to hold all power and all media.

Unfortunately in America they have only managaed to capture maybe 26% of the population. And it hasn't gone beyond that regardless of the money they spend. And this pisses of the likes of the Koch brothers no end. That they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What part of Republicans kicked the shit out of the Democrats in the mid terms did you miss?

What part of they pulled off historic wins in the midterms did you miss fool?

You....you do realize that more people voted for democratic candidates for the House than voted for republicans candidates.....by about a million votes. And more people voted for democratic candidates for Senate than voted for republican senate candidates.....by about 5 million.

Right?

You're crowing for gerrymandering. Not public support. Even in mid term elections where democrats traditionally do the worst, they still got more people to vote for their Congressional candidates than republicans did.

Historic win for Republicans right across the board.

Gerrymandering? Kiss my ass.

Like Democrats don't have errrrrrrrrrr interesting boundary lines in their districts?

Ha! Dems take the win with this one.

"So what is one of the worst examples of gerrymandering in the country?

What is the example that the national media uses when talking about gerrymandering?

Illinois' congressional district 4, including parts of Chicago, represented by congressman Luis Gutierrez.

Check out the map below and tell me if you don't think this is the most ridiculous political game ever. Apparently they had to run the district through the middle of Interstate 294 so that they could maintain a contiguous area of homogenous constituents."

Bite me that R's only gerrymander. How's this for redistricting for a freaking win?

Leave it to Illinois to lead the nation in nasty politics."

Illinois Congressional District 4 Worst Example Of Gerrymandering Getting Real

America s most gerrymandered congressional districts - The Washington Post

 

[Skylar]

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.


2012

You do realize that land doesn't vote....but people do? Right? Again, you're confusing population density for public support. Here's a population density map:

Notice a pattern? Generally speaking higher population densities go democrat. Republicans would rule if dirt could vote. Alas, people do.

 

[OKTexas]

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.


2012

You do realize that land doesn't vote....but people do? Right? Again, you're confusing population density for public support. Here's a population density map:

Notice a pattern? Generally speaking higher population densities go democrat. Republicans would rule if dirt could vote. Alas, people do.

And public support is expressed by our elected representatives, you know those pesky little congresscritters we send to DC to do our bidding, not individuals. And where it counts, you're still in the minority.

 

[Skylar]

Smiling....notice you don't even disagree with me.

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

 

[OKTexas]

It's very simple, even you should be able to understand, in a representative form a government it matters most where the majority of votes are cast for a particular party, not how many overall votes were cast. 37 States are run by republicans vs 13 for the dems so we should have larger majorities in congress than we have, too many safe commiecrat districts and populous commiecrat States. Just count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators.

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

I'm sorry you hate our system of government, you are free to leave to one that suits you more, or you can get 3/4ths of the States to agree to change it. Since neither of those is likely to happen, man up loser!

 

[Skylar]

It does if you're trying to portray that vote as representing the will of the majority of the American people. And it certainly does when gerrymandering dramatically skews representation disproportionate to support among the people, even within a state.

The American people more often support Democratic positions than they do Republican position. And the vote in 2012 reflected this.

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

I'm sorry you hate our system of government, you are free to leave to one that suits you more, or you can get 3/4ths of the States to agree to change it. Since neither of those is likely to happen, man up loser.

You seem confused. The folks talking about 'leaving' are among your ilk. As all the secessionist babble in our age is deeply imbedded among conservatives.

Me, I'm simply acknowledging a fact that we both know and you don't even dispute: that more people voted for democratic candidates for the house and senate than republican. And it wasn't even close, with a 1 million vote and 5 million vote lead respectively.

And we both know I'm right.

 

[OKTexas]

Then go find yourself a direct democracy, and leave our representative republic alone. Just because the commie States are more populous doesn't mean they can dictate to the rest of us. You got a problem with that get an amendment passed.

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

I'm sorry you hate our system of government, you are free to leave to one that suits you more, or you can get 3/4ths of the States to agree to change it. Since neither of those is likely to happen, man up loser.

You seem confused. The folks talking about 'leaving' are among your ilk. As all the secessionist babble in our age is deeply imbedded among conservatives.

Me, I'm simply acknowledging a fact that we both know and you don't even dispute: that more people voted for democratic candidates for the house and senate than republican. And it wasn't even close, with a 1 million vote and 5 million vote lead respectively.

And we both know I'm right.

And as we both know, it doesn't mean spit. Like I said, count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators because you only control 13 States, their populations mean nothing.

 

[Skylar]

Don't pretend that republicans enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even the majority of the voters. Or that republican positions are those of the majority of Americans. They aren't.

And as your complete and fastidious avoidance of the topic demonstrates elegantly, you clearly recognize these facts.

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

I'm sorry you hate our system of government, you are free to leave to one that suits you more, or you can get 3/4ths of the States to agree to change it. Since neither of those is likely to happen, man up loser.

You seem confused. The folks talking about 'leaving' are among your ilk. As all the secessionist babble in our age is deeply imbedded among conservatives.

Me, I'm simply acknowledging a fact that we both know and you don't even dispute: that more people voted for democratic candidates for the house and senate than republican. And it wasn't even close, with a 1 million vote and 5 million vote lead respectively.

And we both know I'm right.

And as we both know, it doesn't mean spit. Like I said, count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators because you only control 13 States, their populations mean nothing.

It does when republicans expect the people to side with them in disputes or policy positions that the people simply don't support. There is a reason why the GOP has backed down over and over in both the House and Senate despite having the majority in the former for half a decade and the latter for half a year:

The people aren't with them. And they know it.

 

[OKTexas]

No I am elegantly demonstrating I don't give a rats ass about your whining, mobs don't rule here, the country was set up that way and it won't change, so get used to it.

Then you acknowledge that republicans don't enjoy the support of the majority of the people, or even a majority of the voters.

Which is my entire point. Though thank you for dismissing the support of the majority of the people as 'whining'.

I'm sorry you hate our system of government, you are free to leave to one that suits you more, or you can get 3/4ths of the States to agree to change it. Since neither of those is likely to happen, man up loser.

You seem confused. The folks talking about 'leaving' are among your ilk. As all the secessionist babble in our age is deeply imbedded among conservatives.

Me, I'm simply acknowledging a fact that we both know and you don't even dispute: that more people voted for democratic candidates for the house and senate than republican. And it wasn't even close, with a 1 million vote and 5 million vote lead respectively.

And we both know I'm right.

And as we both know, it doesn't mean spit. Like I said, count yourself lucky you have more than 26 senators because you only control 13 States, their populations mean nothing.

It does when republicans expect the people to side with them in disputes or policy positions that the people simply don't support. There is a reason why the GOP has backed down over and over in both the House and Senate despite having the majority in the former for half a decade and the latter for half a year:

The people aren't with them. And they know it.

The last thing I will ever do is make excuses for spineless republicans, I've told my reps over and over that you don't dig a fighting position and do nothing but shit in it. Also from what I'm hearing most of their other constituents are saying similar things. It's way past time to dump Bohner and McConnel and get some folks with balls. If I thought they gave a shit about what commiecrats thought I'd be knocking doors to get them out of office.

Also I'm so glad to know you speak for all the people, you starting to sound like Al not so sharpton.