Why do conservative talk show hosts suck up to progressive Herman Cain?

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    I cannot understand why our conservative talk show hosts, especially Mark Levin, call Herman Cain a conservative when Herman promotes picking winners and losers under his progressive "opportunity zone" crap.

    Does Herman Cain propose to have the federal government enter a State, declare a geographical area or areas to be “opportunity zones”, and then allow the people and businesses within these zones to be free of taxes which people and businesses a block outside the zone will be forced to pay?

    If the answer is yes, and indeed it is, would Herman Cain’s proposal not violate the very intentions of our founding fathers written into Article 1, Section 9, Clause 6 of our Constitution and be granting preferential regulations of commerce?

    How about that part of our Constitution which requires direct taxes to be apportioned and indirect taxes to be uniform “throughout the united States”? Does Mr. Cain not know these provisions were put into the Constitution to forbid the federal government from picking winners and losers via taxation? Is it not a fact that Herman’s “opportunity zone” tax policy would violate the very intentions for which the rule of apportionment and rule of uniformity was put into our Constitution?

    And how about Herman Cain even suggesting to have the federal government enter a State and use its power to meddle in a State’s internal affairs and commerce? Is his proposal not in direct defiance of our Founding Father’s intentions which are summarized in Federalist No. 45?


    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.


    The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

    And if the above is not clear enough that our founders intentions were to forbid the federal government from entering the States and interfering with their internal affairs and commerce, what part of the Tenth Amendment does Mr. Cain not understand which was specifically adopted to protect federalism and a free market system?

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

    Finally, if the above parts of our Constitution are not clear that Mr. Cain’s proposal is sugar coated tyranny wrapped in Orwellian Newspeak as being "opportunity zones", let us recall what our very own Supreme Court stated shortly after the Tenth Amendment was adopted:


    The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing; if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed are of equal obligation. It is a proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the constitution by an ordinary act.


    Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.

    If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power in its own nature illimitable

    Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature repugnant to the constitution is void. ____ MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)


    And so, I ask the questions, why is it that our “conservative” talk show hosts [Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Lee Rodgers, Doc Thompson, Neal Boortz. Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, or any media personality on FoxNews] avoid taking Herman Cain to task for proposing to allow the federal government to enter a State, designate a geographical area an “opportunity zone”, and then allow people and business inside that zone to be free of taxes which people and businesses a block away will be forced to pay by the federal government. Why are our “conservative” talk show hosts not siding with our founding father’s rejection to allow Herman Cain to pick winners and losers or grant preferential regulations to a State or individual? Why do our “conservative” talk show hosts not defend our founding fathers and our Constitution, intended to create and protect a free market system, and preclude Herman Cain from picking winners and losers?

    JWK

    Herman Cain, keep your freaken nose out of my State’s internal commerce!
     
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    Actually, Ronald Reagan did the same thing.... Except he called them "Enterprise Zones".
     
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    The RNC would love to have Herman Cain as the nominee because he was at the Kansas City Federal Reserve. That's like being a Made Man in the Mafia.
     
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    Sounds kind of a right wing, progressive spin of a idea.
     
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    If Herman Cain were sincere about wanting to unleash America’s free market system and allowing it to do its magic, he wouldn’t be promoting more government meddling with his Orwellian Newspeak “opportunity zones”. He would propose an end the “progressive‘s” occupation of the united States which began in 1913 with 16th Amendment, and advocate its end with the following words to be added to our Constitution:

    The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money, which would return us to our Constitution’s ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as our founders intended it to operate, and paved the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world, when it was adhered to!

    JWK

    Read my lips Herman Cain. No additional national sales tax on top of the socialist tax calculated from incomes which you support.
     
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    Progressive.

    LOL!
     
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    ROFLMAO, I bet you think he is an Honorary Jew now right?

    lol
     
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    Nobody is going to repeal the 16th Amendment. Get real.
     
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    Herman Cain - I smell a bullshit artist

    Maybe just me....
     
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    Exactly! You don’t get to be a Chairman at a federal reserve bank unless you sell your soul to the Washington Establishment! Also note that Herman Cain supports the “progressive” fairtax which would also establish a national sales tax in addition to keeping alive Congress’ power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”! The fact is, the Washington Establishment has been trying to get a consumption tax [national sales tax, value added tax, fairtax, etc.] since the 1980s while keeping alive the Marxist tax calculated from incomes. I guess Herman Cain is the Establishment’s hand picked Hobson’s Choice candidate whose job is to flimflam the American people into accepting a national sales tax on top of taxes calculated from incomes to feed the beast in Washington.


    JWK

    Are we really to believe the founder of fairtax.org., Leo E. Linbeck Jr. and Herman Cain, both former ringleaders of the federal reserve banking cartel which plunders our national treasury?
     

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