Why Do American Politicians Dislike Socialism and Communism So Much?

[Norman]

Socialism and Communism are pure evil and the bigger question is why do people of your ilk love Socialism and Communism so much?

Because they are superlosers who worship Lucifer.

 

[forkup]

Americans are not sent to death camps for believing in equality and other fairy tales.

Are you denying that in communist nations people are sent to death camps?

Bernie staffers suggested exactly that.

No they are not! Nazi's sent people to death camps the only ones ever created.

The Communist Soviet Union sent people to concentration camps or Gulags first invented by the British. Most died from the deprivation,hypothermia and disease though many were shot for treason. Doesn't matter the ideological base, It is often the leader/ship who determine state policy.
Stalin lets remember was a megalomaniac and a very paranoid one at that.
He had his own wife and that of his secretary sent to Gulags simply because they had become 'disillusioned' with the course communism was taking. When his secretary complained he missed her,he said - "Never mind we will soon find you a new wife!"

There is nothing in 'Das Kapital' Karl Marx, that says the disillusioned must be sent to Gulags.
Indeed Marx couldn't have envisioned a egalitarian society were disillusionment would be a problem.

You could at a stretch make similar criticisms of the US. " 2 million incarcerated (far more then any other nation) in penitentiaries/gulags/concentration camps. Doesn't matter what they are called. Many black who didn't get a fair trial, have mental health issues with poor education. fan

Oh fucking great, we have a communist apologist who apologized for their death camps no less.

If there are some people that should be in said gulags, we have just found them.

They were not 'death' camps!

Auschwitz wasn't exclusively a 'death camp' it had a camp for criminals and political prisoners Auschwitz 1 (concentration camp) where many were released. but it did have a 'death camp' Birkenau where no one was intended to survive.

Treblinka, Sobibor etc were 'death camps' were everybody sent were supposed to die.

Again you have similar in your U.S prison system. What are 'death row/s' if not 'death camps?'

Yeah, the camps where millions died were not death camps because...

Communists are evil people. It is incredible that some retards still join the death cult, even as it is now clear to all what it is.

"Communists are evil people"

You could say the same about Capitalists - some are, some are not.

Have you ever met a 'Communist?' or did Fox news tell you? And of course you believe everything Fox news tells you....sad!

Anyone who believes in the murder cult and wants to attempt it again, is evil.

Now go worship your Lucifer, I have heard enough of stupidity. Communism is rejected by Americans in all of its forms, with pride.

Ha ha ha what murder cult? The objective of Communism in theory is to create a egalitarian society. As you obviously have little more than a primary school education, that means equal in every sense.

"Now go worship your Lucifer"

Lucifer who? I don't 'worship' period!

Go dance around your totem pole like the primate you are!

I could care less what their objective is, although if that is the objective, it is no wonder that communism always fails. The objective is like chasing after unicorns. Equality is total nonsense, you are just a loser wanting other people's stuff. A classic parasite. Those who are inferior seek for equality, others seek for superiority.

Fact is, communism is a death-cult and you are apologizing for it. You possibly failed to read the forum title, this is the "US" forum, the antithesis of the murder cult.

Listen matey, Have you any idea of where and how I live? No!
Any Idea of how many naughts preceded by a numeral are in my savings accounts? No!
Don't want or need anything, don't even need to work, and have more money than I can ever hope to spend, so don't jump to silly conclusions.

So its a US based forum? So what?
And so its 'superiority' you yanks seek, Ha ha and you say I'm chasing unicorns. what a fucked up society! I'm superior in both terms of intellect and financial assets and I'm a proud socialist so you ain't doing too well are you!

Ha ha, the sheer audacity of the man!

I'm sorry to tell you but in case you haven't noticed most people in here aren't at all interested in questioning their pre-conceived notions. I've been here for over four years and can probably count the times a conversation didn't rely on unsubstantiated opinions or logical fallacies on 2 hands. Sadly enough those few times it happens make me come back against my better judgement

So your saying bar the odd one or two every other conversation on this forum is based on solid unquestionable fact and pure logic?

Are you serious?

I have found the total opposite that bar one or two every other conversation I've encountered is based on nothing more than stupidity, ignorance, lack of education, bigotry, racism, primitive superstition and by far away the chief exponents are right wing, Capitalists, Republicans, Bible-bashers, Holocaust deniers,"ya cant trust the government" weirdo's and 'Political chic' who combines the lot and she's a Zionist.

We must be living in parallel universes!

I think you need to revisit what I said since you seem to have read the exact opposite of what I wrote. I actually agree with your assertion that most people here aren't interested in facts in the slightest.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Americans are not sent to death camps for believing in equality and other fairy tales.

Are you denying that in communist nations people are sent to death camps?

Bernie staffers suggested exactly that.

No they are not! Nazi's sent people to death camps the only ones ever created.

The Communist Soviet Union sent people to concentration camps or Gulags first invented by the British. Most died from the deprivation,hypothermia and disease though many were shot for treason. Doesn't matter the ideological base, It is often the leader/ship who determine state policy.
Stalin lets remember was a megalomaniac and a very paranoid one at that.
He had his own wife and that of his secretary sent to Gulags simply because they had become 'disillusioned' with the course communism was taking. When his secretary complained he missed her,he said - "Never mind we will soon find you a new wife!"

There is nothing in 'Das Kapital' Karl Marx, that says the disillusioned must be sent to Gulags.
Indeed Marx couldn't have envisioned a egalitarian society were disillusionment would be a problem.

You could at a stretch make similar criticisms of the US. " 2 million incarcerated (far more then any other nation) in penitentiaries/gulags/concentration camps. Doesn't matter what they are called. Many black who didn't get a fair trial, have mental health issues with poor education. fan

Oh fucking great, we have a communist apologist who apologized for their death camps no less.

If there are some people that should be in said gulags, we have just found them.

They were not 'death' camps!

Auschwitz wasn't exclusively a 'death camp' it had a camp for criminals and political prisoners Auschwitz 1 (concentration camp) where many were released. but it did have a 'death camp' Birkenau where no one was intended to survive.

Treblinka, Sobibor etc were 'death camps' were everybody sent were supposed to die.

Again you have similar in your U.S prison system. What are 'death row/s' if not 'death camps?'

False equivalence son, you'll have to do better than that.

 

[Norman]

Americans are not sent to death camps for believing in equality and other fairy tales.

Are you denying that in communist nations people are sent to death camps?

Bernie staffers suggested exactly that.

No they are not! Nazi's sent people to death camps the only ones ever created.

The Communist Soviet Union sent people to concentration camps or Gulags first invented by the British. Most died from the deprivation,hypothermia and disease though many were shot for treason. Doesn't matter the ideological base, It is often the leader/ship who determine state policy.
Stalin lets remember was a megalomaniac and a very paranoid one at that.
He had his own wife and that of his secretary sent to Gulags simply because they had become 'disillusioned' with the course communism was taking. When his secretary complained he missed her,he said - "Never mind we will soon find you a new wife!"

There is nothing in 'Das Kapital' Karl Marx, that says the disillusioned must be sent to Gulags.
Indeed Marx couldn't have envisioned a egalitarian society were disillusionment would be a problem.

You could at a stretch make similar criticisms of the US. " 2 million incarcerated (far more then any other nation) in penitentiaries/gulags/concentration camps. Doesn't matter what they are called. Many black who didn't get a fair trial, have mental health issues with poor education. fan

Oh fucking great, we have a communist apologist who apologized for their death camps no less.

If there are some people that should be in said gulags, we have just found them.

They were not 'death' camps!

Auschwitz wasn't exclusively a 'death camp' it had a camp for criminals and political prisoners Auschwitz 1 (concentration camp) where many were released. but it did have a 'death camp' Birkenau where no one was intended to survive.

Treblinka, Sobibor etc were 'death camps' were everybody sent were supposed to die.

Again you have similar in your U.S prison system. What are 'death row/s' if not 'death camps?'

False equivalence son, you'll have to do better than that.

He certainly has the communist style debating tactics - comparing our prison system to a death camp and a gulag. What a total ass. He should be shipped to Venezuela immediately to learn about the costs of free shit.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Americans are not sent to death camps for believing in equality and other fairy tales.

Are you denying that in communist nations people are sent to death camps?

Bernie staffers suggested exactly that.

No they are not! Nazi's sent people to death camps the only ones ever created.

The Communist Soviet Union sent people to concentration camps or Gulags first invented by the British. Most died from the deprivation,hypothermia and disease though many were shot for treason. Doesn't matter the ideological base, It is often the leader/ship who determine state policy.
Stalin lets remember was a megalomaniac and a very paranoid one at that.
He had his own wife and that of his secretary sent to Gulags simply because they had become 'disillusioned' with the course communism was taking. When his secretary complained he missed her,he said - "Never mind we will soon find you a new wife!"

There is nothing in 'Das Kapital' Karl Marx, that says the disillusioned must be sent to Gulags.
Indeed Marx couldn't have envisioned a egalitarian society were disillusionment would be a problem.

You could at a stretch make similar criticisms of the US. " 2 million incarcerated (far more then any other nation) in penitentiaries/gulags/concentration camps. Doesn't matter what they are called. Many black who didn't get a fair trial, have mental health issues with poor education. fan

Oh fucking great, we have a communist apologist who apologized for their death camps no less.

If there are some people that should be in said gulags, we have just found them.

They were not 'death' camps!

Auschwitz wasn't exclusively a 'death camp' it had a camp for criminals and political prisoners Auschwitz 1 (concentration camp) where many were released. but it did have a 'death camp' Birkenau where no one was intended to survive.

Treblinka, Sobibor etc were 'death camps' were everybody sent were supposed to die.

Again you have similar in your U.S prison system. What are 'death row/s' if not 'death camps?'

False equivalence son, you'll have to do better than that.

He certainly has the communist style debating tactics - comparing our prison system to a death camp and a gulag. What a total ass. He should be shipped to Venezuela immediately to learn about the costs of free shit.

Na they ain't doing so well, but then when the US and the rest of the capitalist world, the UK included impose crippling sanctions like they did on Cuba that is not surprising. US greed for other nations oil.

No US president will ever get the support, respect and affection and be treated like a saint on his death than Hugo Chavez.

 

[BigDave]

Americans are not sent to death camps for believing in equality and other fairy tales.

Are you denying that in communist nations people are sent to death camps?

Bernie staffers suggested exactly that.

No they are not! Nazi's sent people to death camps the only ones ever created.

The Communist Soviet Union sent people to concentration camps or Gulags first invented by the British. Most died from the deprivation,hypothermia and disease though many were shot for treason. Doesn't matter the ideological base, It is often the leader/ship who determine state policy.
Stalin lets remember was a megalomaniac and a very paranoid one at that.
He had his own wife and that of his secretary sent to Gulags simply because they had become 'disillusioned' with the course communism was taking. When his secretary complained he missed her,he said - "Never mind we will soon find you a new wife!"

There is nothing in 'Das Kapital' Karl Marx, that says the disillusioned must be sent to Gulags.
Indeed Marx couldn't have envisioned a egalitarian society were disillusionment would be a problem.

You could at a stretch make similar criticisms of the US. " 2 million incarcerated (far more then any other nation) in penitentiaries/gulags/concentration camps. Doesn't matter what they are called. Many black who didn't get a fair trial, have mental health issues with poor education. fan

Oh fucking great, we have a communist apologist who apologized for their death camps no less.

If there are some people that should be in said gulags, we have just found them.

They were not 'death' camps!

Auschwitz wasn't exclusively a 'death camp' it had a camp for criminals and political prisoners Auschwitz 1 (concentration camp) where many were released. but it did have a 'death camp' Birkenau where no one was intended to survive.

Treblinka, Sobibor etc were 'death camps' were everybody sent were supposed to die.

Again you have similar in your U.S prison system. What are 'death row/s' if not 'death camps?'

False equivalence son, you'll have to do better than that.

He certainly has the communist style debating tactics - comparing our prison system to a death camp and a gulag. What a total ass. He should be shipped to Venezuela immediately to learn about the costs of free shit.

Na they ain't doing so well, but then when the US and the rest of the capitalist world, the UK included impose crippling sanctions like they did on Cuba that is not surprising. US greed for other nations oil.

No US president will ever get the support, respect and affection and be treated like a saint on his death than Hugo Chavez.

Wow more Communists and Communist Fellow Travelers

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

 

[BigDave]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

You could
However it would be inaccurate.

 

[Unkotare]

Most people in America who claim to support socialism are really fantasizing about communism as an ultimate goal. Anyone defending communism has never taken a look at it up close.

 

[pknopp]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

Nearly our entire economy is now socialist in nature.

 

[pknopp]

Most people in America who claim to support socialism are really fantasizing about communism as an ultimate goal. Anyone defending communism has never taken a look at it up close.

Of course no one is doing that but that won't stop you.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

Nearly our entire economy is now socialist in nature.

Describe how that is happening.

 

[pknopp]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

Nearly our entire economy is now socialist in nature.

Describe how that is happening.

You know how that is happening.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

Nearly our entire economy is now socialist in nature.

Describe how that is happening.

You know how that is happening.

Not only do I not know how you believe it to be happening
I believe it is not a thing.
So go -

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

You could say Medicare and Medicaid along with Social Security are Socialist programs.

Nearly our entire economy is now socialist in nature.

Describe how that is happening.

You know how that is happening.

Why is this so hard -
You were so sure, so eager to express your opinion -

Now explain it, surely you can.

 

[dudmuck]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

uh hmmm.

 

[dblack]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

uh hmmm.

It's not uncommon for those on the receiving end of government "largess" to be its harshest critics. They see the downsides of that kind of dependency first hand.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

uh hmmm.

Not Socialism

 

[dblack]

Why do people post made up stuff like this? Politicians (and the American people overall) love Socialist programs.

It's just who benefits where some have problems.

We do not have any Socialist Programs

uh hmmm.

Not Socialism

It's certainly in the direction.