Why did Black Folk fight for the US in the Second World War ?

[Scamp]

So like how did millions of Blacks come to the new world? Oh yea, it was British slave ships...

 

[gtopa1]

....I read where Sammy Davis Jr got harassed/bullied/etc in the military because he was black
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis,_Jr.

They broke his nose
That is why it was crooked the rest of his life

That may have been due to Davis' conservatism. Why was he banned from the 1961 JFK inaugural? Was it his conservatism, or the fact the Kennedy was a bigot and didn't like the fact Davis was married to a white broad?

..they didn't let him stay at the hotels he was performing at, from what I have read

That's definitely true. A lot of Liberal cities banned African Americans from staying in their hotels.

As in DemoKKKrat.....they're welcome to sleep on the streets of Frisco and LA...and NY!!! lol

Some things haven't changed!!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

So like how did millions of Blacks come to the new world? Oh yea, it was British slave ships...

True enough; now who sold the Slaves to the Poms???

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Wow, don't tell me you are seriously this stupid?

Are you not aware of history?

Slavery was over before the 20th century you dolt.




Conscription - Wikipedia

When the HMS drafts you, did the British say "no?" I doubt it, no matter how they felt about it.

Pretty much the same was true.



You start some pretty dumb threads sometimes.


They went, b/c it was either that or prison.

The ending of slavery was one step on the way. Blacks were still second class citizens in the US. Why fight for that ?

Tell me tammy why did India fight for Britain? I mean after all they were 2nd class citizens hell the British even murdered them in droves.

They are still trying to fathom out the story of the British in India.There were complex relationships and the Brits played off one group against others.

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The Sepoy Rebellion?? Mostly about local Princes and the like being made toe the line by the Brits. The Brits largely dismantled the caste system in a way but there being "lower class" citizens had always been a feature. However, the Poms were downright decent at the end.

On 1 November 1858, the British granted amnesty to all rebels not involved in murder, though they did not declare the hostilities to have formally ended until 8 July 1859.

Pleae don't judge the poms by that stupid little Tainant.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

The ending of slavery was one step on the way. Blacks were still second class citizens in the US. Why fight for that ?

Tell me tammy why did India fight for Britain? I mean after all they were 2nd class citizens hell the British even murdered them in droves.

They are still trying to fathom out the story of the British in India.There were complex relationships and the Brits played off one group against others.

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

In DemoKKKrat areas fer sure!!!

Greg

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Wow, don't tell me you are seriously this stupid?

Are you not aware of history?

Slavery was over before the 20th century you dolt.




Conscription - Wikipedia

When the HMS drafts you, did the British say "no?" I doubt it, no matter how they felt about it.

Pretty much the same was true.



You start some pretty dumb threads sometimes.


They went, b/c it was either that or prison.

The ending of slavery was one step on the way. Blacks were still second class citizens in the US. Why fight for that ?

Tell me tammy why did India fight for Britain? I mean after all they were 2nd class citizens hell the British even murdered them in droves.

They are still trying to fathom out the story of the British in India.There were complex relationships and the Brits played off one group against others.

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

Well I gave you an honest answer to a complex question. Its a shame that it went over your head. Suffice to say that Indians enjoyed freedom decades before African Americans.

 

[Scamp]

So like how did millions of Blacks come to the new world? Oh yea, it was British slave ships...

True enough; now who sold the Slaves to the Poms???

Greg

It was Blacks selling Blacks. Thats why people blame Whites for slavery.

 

[Polishprince]

The ending of slavery was one step on the way. Blacks were still second class citizens in the US. Why fight for that ?

Tell me tammy why did India fight for Britain? I mean after all they were 2nd class citizens hell the British even murdered them in droves.

They are still trying to fathom out the story of the British in India.There were complex relationships and the Brits played off one group against others.

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

Well I gave you an honest answer to a complex question. Its a shame that it went over your head. Suffice to say that Indians enjoyed freedom decades before African Americans.

Of course, that's a load of shit.

America has had black presidents as well as black congresspeople and senators since the 19th Century. So far the UK has never had an East Indian monarch. The condition of Indian cities under Limey Rule were depressing, people crapping in the streets of places like Calcutta, the stench was unbearable. Comparing to Liberal Hell Holes like San Francisco.

 

[rightwinger]

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

was?

Yes, was

Tell that to the indigenous Bolivians that were the victims of the CIA intervention.

What does that have to do with South Africa?

 

[rightwinger]

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

was?

Yes, was

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

 

[Polishprince]

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

was?

Yes, was

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

The South was solidly liberal at the time. Voted solidly and overwhelmingly for libs like FDR and Wilson, and opposed to conservatives like the Tremendous Warren G. Harding.

Conservatives today still stand against Jim Crow laws and still believe that racial integration should be legal, and the objection is to the "Voting Rights Act" not voting rights per se. The Voting Rights Act discriminates against conservatives, requiring conservatives to get permission upfront that libs don't have to as far as changes in electoral processes.

 

[rightwinger]

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

was?

Yes, was

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

The South was solidly liberal at the time. Voted solidly and overwhelmingly for libs like FDR and Wilson, and opposed to conservatives like the Tremendous Warren G. Harding.

Conservatives today still stand against Jim Crow laws and still believe that racial integration should be legal, and the objection is to the "Voting Rights Act" not voting rights per se. The Voting Rights Act discriminates against conservatives, requiring conservatives to get permission upfront that libs don't have to as far as changes in electoral processes.

Wrong again
Repeating it does not make it true

 

[Polishprince]

was?

Yes, was

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

The South was solidly liberal at the time. Voted solidly and overwhelmingly for libs like FDR and Wilson, and opposed to conservatives like the Tremendous Warren G. Harding.

Conservatives today still stand against Jim Crow laws and still believe that racial integration should be legal, and the objection is to the "Voting Rights Act" not voting rights per se. The Voting Rights Act discriminates against conservatives, requiring conservatives to get permission upfront that libs don't have to as far as changes in electoral processes.

Wrong again
Repeating it does not make it true

Al Gore is a documented liberal who violently opposed the Voting Rights Act back in the day.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, was

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

The South was solidly liberal at the time. Voted solidly and overwhelmingly for libs like FDR and Wilson, and opposed to conservatives like the Tremendous Warren G. Harding.

Conservatives today still stand against Jim Crow laws and still believe that racial integration should be legal, and the objection is to the "Voting Rights Act" not voting rights per se. The Voting Rights Act discriminates against conservatives, requiring conservatives to get permission upfront that libs don't have to as far as changes in electoral processes.

Wrong again
Repeating it does not make it true

Al Gore is a documented liberal who violently opposed the Voting Rights Act back in the day.

His father

 

[Polishprince]

Actually, America was nothing like South Africa. America's African Americans could vote, could move where they wanted to and did. Some very liberal states had Jim Crow codes in place, but we didn't have separate toilets for the blacks in the mid west, and they rode the same city buses and attended the same schools as their Honky neighbors.

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

The South was solidly liberal at the time. Voted solidly and overwhelmingly for libs like FDR and Wilson, and opposed to conservatives like the Tremendous Warren G. Harding.

Conservatives today still stand against Jim Crow laws and still believe that racial integration should be legal, and the objection is to the "Voting Rights Act" not voting rights per se. The Voting Rights Act discriminates against conservatives, requiring conservatives to get permission upfront that libs don't have to as far as changes in electoral processes.

Wrong again
Repeating it does not make it true

Al Gore is a documented liberal who violently opposed the Voting Rights Act back in the day.

His father

The son never denounced his father on this, and in fact actually attended and eulogized Al Gore Sr at his death.

The funeral would have been the perfect time to denounce Al Sr. as the racist he was, but Jr. said nothing, in fact he made it seem like his father was a decent fellow.

 

[aaronleland]

It was an act of faith for white people.

"I know we've been fucking you guys for hundreds of years, but here's the most advanced weaponry known to man. Have at it."

In World War 3 we'll be giving rocket launchers to circus elephants.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Blacks in the military??? Why, yes there were/has been/are/will be......

Military history of African Americans - Wikipedia


The military history of African Americans spans from the arrival of the first enslaved Africans during the colonial history of the United States to the present day. In every war fought by or within the United States, African Americans participated, including the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Mexican–American War, the Civil War, the Spanish–American War, the World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as other minor conflicts.




This only talks of Civil War...….but not only did they 'serve' in the military, they also 'fought'.....though on a much lesser scale. Some even earned and were awarded the Medal of Honor

Black Soldiers in the U.S. Military During the Civil War


By war's end, 16 black soldiers had been awarded the Medal of Honor for their valor.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Blacks fought for America, like Welsh fought for Britain?
Is there much of a difference there during WWII?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The ending of slavery was one step on the way. Blacks were still second class citizens in the US. Why fight for that ?

Tell me tammy why did India fight for Britain? I mean after all they were 2nd class citizens hell the British even murdered them in droves.

They are still trying to fathom out the story of the British in India.There were complex relationships and the Brits played off one group against others.

. . so the aristocracy and monarchy are different than the ruling classes of the U.S., is that it?

Nuance exists for the British. . . but things are black and white in America?

You are either just really dumb, or a paid propagandist.

GTFO here with that shit.

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The Sepoy Rebellion?? Mostly about local Princes and the like being made toe the line by the Brits. The Brits largely dismantled the caste system in a way but there being "lower class" citizens had always been a feature. However, the Poms were downright decent at the end.

On 1 November 1858, the British granted amnesty to all rebels not involved in murder, though they did not declare the hostilities to have formally ended until 8 July 1859.

Pleae don't judge the poms by that stupid little Tainant.

Greg

In the 1940's the British machine gunned hundreds of Indians that wanted independence.

 

[Jitss617]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??