Why did Black Folk fight for the US in the Second World War ?

[Biff_Poindexter]

How many blacks volunteered, as opposed to being drafted?

A lot.....

Many needed a job as well.

Although I don't think it was popular to dissent back then anyway, that came with the 60s.

It had nothing to do with dissenting..it had to do with my grandfathers and great grandfathers belief in what America is supposed to be.....which is why I said, they are the most patriotic Americans out there...

Because they were willing to die for rights and liberation of others across the globe, even tho they were rights they themselves didn't have....

And they believed so much that they were willing to fight for the right to go to the battlefield...

"As hard as those in power fought to prevent African Americans from serving in any major capacity during the war, the demand for manpower quickly demonstrated to all that in order to defeat the Axis, more men would be needed regardless of their color. While the regular Army Buffalo Soldiers were exiled away from WWI action, the National Army would eventually have to conscript tens of thousands of additional African Americans to join the fight for democracy in the Great War."

The Buffalo Soldiers in WWI (U.S. National Park Service)

When you are any one else try to minimize or disrespect the sacrifices they made, I will be the first one to check each and every last one of you with facts.....how many white soldiers do you know were lynched by other white Americans for wearing their uniforms?? Black soldiers were -- and guess what, they still wore it....because they loved America more than those racists did....

 

[rightwinger]

You are partially correct but you misplace cause and effect

Welfare did not cause the breakdown of families, it picked up the pieces.
When manufacturing jobs disappeared, low skill assembly jobs disappeared. Males without jobs were unable to form families

You are correct in saying welfare contributed to the breakdown of families when it refused benefits to households with an unemployed male. It was easier for single mothers to claim benefits

Wrong, welfare, as it was put forth by the War on Poverty, punished good behavior and rewarded bad behavior. Just because someone has a low income does not mean they are stupid. It quickly became recognized that if you were married, with children, you were entitled to far less economic help from the government. However, if you were SINGLE with children, you were entitled to much more in the way of benefits.

Suddenly it was a great benefit to NOT be married. That rendered the husband not only useless but a detriment to the family unit. Without a family to be responsible for and proud of, that drove the men into other pursuits. How has that worked out?

Isnt that what I posted?

However, the insistence that receipients be punished if there was a male in the household came from conservatives

Prove what I said was wrong

To what end?

I proved my point. Typically, you twisted what was posted to fit your needs rather than what was posted.

You could claim the sky was green, then say prove what I said is wrong, and I could not "prove" the sky was blue.

Second time you have failed to prove what I said was wrong
Shows you can’t

 

[regent]

Perhaps Blacks were fighting because FDR asked them to?

 

[Votto]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

Umm...most other countries managed to move on from slavery without killing each other

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

Umm...most other countries managed to move on from slavery without killing each other

Ya cause they did not have die hard DEMOCRATS wiling to die to keep their slaves.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

Umm...most other countries managed to move on from slavery without killing each other

Ya cause they did not have die hard DEMOCRATS wiling to die to keep their slaves.

Actually, they were Southern Baptists

 

[Markle]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

Umm...most other countries managed to move on from slavery without killing each other

Ya cause they did not have die hard DEMOCRATS wiling to die to keep their slaves.

Actually, they were Southern Baptists

 

[Correll]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

Why ask a question, when you plan to attack any and all answers?


Oh, because it is not really a question, but a slur on America and the service of WWII vets.


You are sub human scum.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

You know what, I'm sick to death of Leftists trashing the US.

Why were blacks fighting the Nazis? Oh, I dunno, maybe so that they would not wind up in a National socialist death camp? Could that be the reason?

Oh, as for slavery, about a million "white boys" fought against their brothers in the US to free the slaves in the 1800's, yet not a peep of recognition for it from Lefties like yourself.

Umm...most other countries managed to move on from slavery without killing each other

Ya cause they did not have die hard DEMOCRATS wiling to die to keep their slaves.

Actually, they were Southern Baptists

Civil Rights Act of 64 and 65 were signed by a Democrat

It was Southern Cinservatives who opposed Civil Rights
Both Democrats and Republicans

 

[mikegriffith1]

Perhaps partly because they knew they would be much worse off under Nazi rule than under American rule, for all of America's faults on racial equality at the time.