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Why did Black Folk fight for the US in the Second World War ?
- Thread starter Tommy Tainant
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I think you need to google liberal and conservativeThey couldn’t marry white peopleBlack Americans weren’t allowed to marry, eat, live, travel? WTF.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empireWell Indians were able to,marry, eat, study,live and travel well before the southern states. If you want me to defend the empire that isnt going to happen. But these are just facts.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empire
They couldn’t eat with white people
They couldn’t travel sitting next to white people
They could in conservative cities provided both parties agreed, it was just liberal states that had strict Jim Crow laws. Places like South Carolina. But even in places like South Carolina, you had proud honkies willing to buck convention and father children with black broads, like the tremendous Strom Thurmond.
so no one on the right are racists?...America isn’t racist democrats are racistIt seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.
At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.
They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.
Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.
Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?
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Thanks to Southern ConservativesThey couldn’t marry white people
They couldn’t eat with white people
They couldn’t travel sitting next to white people
True, they could not be buried with white people either.
Thanks to Democrats!
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Not the same thing.They couldn’t marry white peopleBlack Americans weren’t allowed to marry, eat, live, travel? WTF.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.It is similar to how England treated India after the war. Indians fought and died for the King and once the war was over they expected independence.
England told them to fuk off
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empireWell Indians were able to,marry, eat, study,live and travel well before the southern states. If you want me to defend the empire that isnt going to happen. But these are just facts.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.It is similar to how England treated India after the war. Indians fought and died for the King and once the war was over they expected independence.
England told them to fuk off
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empire
They couldn’t eat with white people
They couldn’t travel sitting next to white people
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Yes but to think Limeys treated Indians better, is foolish.They were excluded from living in "white" buildings , they werent even able to read books handled by white readers.Black Americans weren’t allowed to marry, eat, live, travel? WTF.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.It is similar to how England treated India after the war. Indians fought and died for the King and once the war was over they expected independence.
England told them to fuk off
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empireWell Indians were able to,marry, eat, study,live and travel well before the southern states. If you want me to defend the empire that isnt going to happen. But these are just facts.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.It is similar to how England treated India after the war. Indians fought and died for the King and once the war was over they expected independence.
England told them to fuk off
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empire
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Was to themNot the same thing.They couldn’t marry white peopleBlack Americans weren’t allowed to marry, eat, live, travel? WTF.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empireWell Indians were able to,marry, eat, study,live and travel well before the southern states. If you want me to defend the empire that isnt going to happen. But these are just facts.Depends what you consider freeThe Empire was shit. But those Indians were free before the Blacks in the South.
They didn’t have the rights of other British subjects and were second class citizens in their own country.
Indian Nationalists fought for independence in the 20s and 30s. When England went to war, they were told to put aside their issues and fight for the crown. Many Indians fought and died
After the war, they were told to pound salt as England reestablished its empire
They couldn’t eat with white people
They couldn’t travel sitting next to white people
Polishprince
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It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.
At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.
They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.
Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.
Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?
What did the Scots fight for England after the way Mel Gibson AKA William Wallace was treated by the English?
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I guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
Thanks to Southern ConservativesThey couldn’t marry white people
They couldn’t eat with white people
They couldn’t travel sitting next to white people
True, they could not be buried with white people either.
Thanks to Democrats!
Al Gore, Sr. was a Southern Conservative? Who knew?
People of Color in America enjoyed the same freedom as any other American during the 20th century. Black families flocked to industrial centers like Detroit during FDR's Great Depression and influenced the culture. On the other side of the pond the British empire raped India for it's resources for the majority of two hundred years and treated Indians like slaves and second class humans and yet Indian regiments numbered over two million for the British war effort in WW2 .
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How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
Dick Foster
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What they had was a long way short of freedom. What were they fighting for ?It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.
At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.
They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.
Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.
Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?
Slavery ended in the 1860's and even if there were segregation in the South blacks were more free than in Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia!
Why do you even attempt that type of spin Tommy!?!
Perhaps to stay out of jail, dumbass. They had the draft back then if you'll recall. You could either show up or get hauled off to prison.
I wish we had it today for everyone, effective immediately upon graduation from high school.
How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
Polishprince
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How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
Germany's goal during WWII was the elimination the Jewish religion., and America has plenty of adherents to Judaism. They would have come here sooner or later.
Blues Man
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It's called the draft.It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.
At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.
They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.
Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.
Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?
- Aug 4, 2009
- 281,612
- 144,111
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You failed to answer the question...How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
We were under no threat of invasion during WWII. How was our existence threatened
- Aug 4, 2009
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How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
Germany's goal during WWII was the elimination the Jewish religion., and America has plenty of adherents to Judaism. They would have come here sooner or later.
Germany was incapable of invading England a few miles across the English Channel. How would they have invaded the US three thousand miles away?
Tommy Tainant
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Maybe you should read all the different Jim Crow laws in operation in the US up to the 60s. Whitey enjoyed freedom, other folk not so much.People of Color in America enjoyed the same freedom as any other American during the 20th century. Black families flocked to industrial centers like Detroit during FDR's Great Depression and influenced the culture. On the other side of the pond the British empire raped India for it's resources for the majority of two hundred years and treated Indians like slaves and second class humans and yet Indian regiments numbered over two million for the British war effort in WW2 .
How was our existence as a nation threatened during WWIII guess no black men were killed at Pearl Harbor...and no black people were worried about the Japanese....in the 2nd world war we fought for our very existence as a nation...I doubt this public schooled nation could be rallied like that today and that is very sad....
We could have sat the war out
Germany's goal during WWII was the elimination the Jewish religion., and America has plenty of adherents to Judaism. They would have come here sooner or later.
Germany was incapable of invading England a few miles across the English Channel. How would they have invaded the US three thousand miles away?
Saying we should have stayed out of WW-II is a stupid statement.
How many ships were sunk along our East Coast by Nazi submarines?
How far is Hawaii from Japan?
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