Why can't this soldier get a concealed carry permit in New Jersey....?

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Yeah....the gun nutters here say that only the military and police have the skills to use guns to stop a mass shooter....and yet when it actually comes to allowing an actual soldier carry a concealed gun...they deny him a permit.......

New Jersey Flouts the Second Amendment — Congress Should Intervene, by Charles C. W. Cooke, National Review

Lieutenant Colonel Terry S. Russell is no stranger to firearms. During his 27 years as a soldier, Russell has “been fully trained and qualified, at a minimum annually, to skillfully employ handguns and rifles.”

Now, he is stationed at New Jersey’s Picatinny Arsenal, where he serves as the “Product Manager for the Army’s Individual Weapons and Small Arms program.”

This, by all accounts, is a senior role. Picatinny is not merely one installation of many but the national headquarters of the United States Army Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center; and Lieutenant Colonel Russell oversees not only the weapons on his own base but all “small arms” for the U.S. Department of Defense.

There are few people in the United States of America who know more about guns.

And yet the state of New Jersey will not give Russell a concealed-carry permit. Almost exactly a year ago, Lieutenant Colonel Russell applied for a license so that he might carry a handgun when driving from his base at Picatinny to his home in Oceanport, N.J.

In support of his request, Russell explained that “service members, including family members, have been specifically targeted by radical extremist” groups;

that the U.S. military has “verified” that “ISIS has placed a significant emphasis to actively identify US military personnel”;

and that Picatinny itself had been evacuated recently “due to the discovery of a dry run attempt to drive a Vehicle Borne Improved Explosive Device onto Post.”

In addition, Russell noted that he has been “vetted through the Department of Defense security office every five years for the past 25 years”; that he has a “Top Secret (TS) Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) clearance”; and that he is already in possession of a “Texas concealed handgun license.” And the powers that be just shrugged.


Anti-gun nuts.....don't piss on our legs and tell us it is raining....you don't want anyone to have guns......you just can't disarm us all at once...so you do it one gun at a time....
 
Sadly none of the officers killed in the Fort Hood shooting were armed due to military policy:

According to testimony from witnesses, Hasan passed up several opportunities to shoot civilians, and instead targeted soldiers in uniform,[30] who - in accordance with military policy - were not carrying personal firearms.[31] At one point, Hasan reportedly approached a group of five civilians hiding under a desk.[32] He looked at them, swept the dot of his pistol's laser sight over one of the men's faces, and turned away without firing.[32]

If the officers had been armed, do you think the shooter would have targeted them?
It would have taken an equal group of shooters to kill 13 people before being stopped.
 
Sadly none of the officers killed in the Fort Hood shooting were armed due to military policy:

According to testimony from witnesses, Hasan passed up several opportunities to shoot civilians, and instead targeted soldiers in uniform,[30] who - in accordance with military policy - were not carrying personal firearms.[31] At one point, Hasan reportedly approached a group of five civilians hiding under a desk.[32] He looked at them, swept the dot of his pistol's laser sight over one of the men's faces, and turned away without firing.[32]

If the officers had been armed, do you think the shooter would have targeted them?
It would have taken an equal group of shooters to kill 13 people before being stopped.


If they had been armed they would have been able to stop him and save lives...he wasn't a combat soldier.......getting rounds fired at you hurts your concentration.....
 
Sadly none of the officers killed in the Fort Hood shooting were armed due to military policy:

According to testimony from witnesses, Hasan passed up several opportunities to shoot civilians, and instead targeted soldiers in uniform,[30] who - in accordance with military policy - were not carrying personal firearms.[31] At one point, Hasan reportedly approached a group of five civilians hiding under a desk.[32] He looked at them, swept the dot of his pistol's laser sight over one of the men's faces, and turned away without firing.[32]

If the officers had been armed, do you think the shooter would have targeted them?
It would have taken an equal group of shooters to kill 13 people before being stopped.


If they had been armed they would have been able to stop him and save lives...he wasn't a combat soldier.......getting rounds fired at you hurts your concentration.....

I don't think he would have tried that if they were armed.
He would have gotten killed after shooting maybe 1-2 people at most, not a big statement.

He was emotionally and mentally unstable BTW. The anti-US pro-Jihad propaganda mixed with his state of mind pushed him over the edge.

If I were on the federal level watching these cases, I would sentence the surviving Boston Bomber to serve as the nurse for this man now bedridden and paralyzed and make him change his bedpan and fluids every day for the rest of their lives; and work to pay the cost of this double life sentence where it isn't on taxpayers. Put the cost of terrorism back on the terrorists. Let them deal with their own, but in safe detention guarded by military, all expenses paid for by sympathizers if you want to keep them alive. If they both plot to kill themselves, let them do it, but in a contained site where they only harm themselves.
 
Sadly none of the officers killed in the Fort Hood shooting were armed due to military policy:

According to testimony from witnesses, Hasan passed up several opportunities to shoot civilians, and instead targeted soldiers in uniform,[30] who - in accordance with military policy - were not carrying personal firearms.[31] At one point, Hasan reportedly approached a group of five civilians hiding under a desk.[32] He looked at them, swept the dot of his pistol's laser sight over one of the men's faces, and turned away without firing.[32]

If the officers had been armed, do you think the shooter would have targeted them?
It would have taken an equal group of shooters to kill 13 people before being stopped.


If they had been armed they would have been able to stop him and save lives...he wasn't a combat soldier.......getting rounds fired at you hurts your concentration.....

I don't think he would have tried that if they were armed.
He would have gotten killed after shooting maybe 1-2 people at most, not a big statement.

He was emotionally and mentally unstable BTW. The anti-US pro-Jihad propaganda mixed with his state of mind pushed him over the edge.

If I were on the federal level watching these cases, I would sentence the surviving Boston Bomber to serve as the nurse for this man now bedridden and paralyzed and make him change his bedpan and fluids every day for the rest of their lives; and work to pay the cost of this double life sentence where it isn't on taxpayers. Put the cost of terrorism back on the terrorists. Let them deal with their own, but in safe detention guarded by military, all expenses paid for by sympathizers if you want to keep them alive. If they both plot to kill themselves, let them do it, but in a contained site where they only harm themselves.


Me....I would just execute them and call it a day.....
 

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