Why Bernie Sanders concerns me.

[rdean]

First, I would never follow a leader that looks homeless. It just can't be. But put that aside.

Bernie insists he wants to concentrate on the issues and that's why he won't talk about his opponents. Wow, sounds good. Sounds moral. Only it's a crock of shit. It may work in the Democratic Primary, but you have to remember, in the general election, you will be dealing with the worst America has to offer, Republicans.

Republicans have spent tens of millions just during the Clinton Administration trying to find "something" and all they got was a blow job. Sure, there was an impeachment. A political stunt that never got farther than the house. Most reports put the cost just over 40 million. How much have they spent of tax payer money on going after the Obama Administration? Wanna bet, after it's all said and sifted, it will turn out to be over 200 million? The original cost of the Iraq war? Republicans want to run the country their way. They don't care if it hurts the country. Worse, the GOP base has no idea what their leaders are doing, even more worse, they don't care.

And it will only make Hillary stronger. The woman who took on the entire GOP ---- and WON! I can imagine her right now be called to testify and saying, well, Colin Powell had private email and George Bush had a private server during his entire 8 years of his administration. Well, not the entire 8 years. As soon as the case of outing a covert CIA agent that spoke out about GOP lies became public, the server was wiped and destroyed. Oops.

Now, I don't know anything at all about Bernie's private life, but if he is a slob now, I suspect he's always been a slob and that's why he doesn't want anyone to question his past. But they may not even have to. Bernie has described himself as a "socialist". The most basic definition of socialism is the government controlling production. Something that is absolutely anti American. Against everything the free market stands for. The government stepping in and stopping business from fleecing the American public, something Republicans totally support, or stepping in to keep necessary business from dying, like auto companies or helping with research is NOT government controlling production. What ever Republicans will have you believe.

You can't just "redistribute wealth". It's not possible. Money is taking something that has no real value and assigning it a value so it can be traded for things that actually have value. So much easier than trading two chickens and some apples for a pair of shoes. Spreading it around unearned reduces it to no value at all.

What we need to do is instead of just spending research money on new "stuff", we need to do some research on the kind of jobs needed by our society in this century. Some things are a given, whether it's being a plumber or being a scientist, you need education. No more 6th grade education is enough. We know there are over 5 million jobs open right now. Good jobs. What is being done to get people ready for them? Nothing. It has to be targeted. Just making education cheaper isn't enough.

Unfortunately, that's Bernie Sander's message. Socialist, redistribution of wealth, cheaper education and so on. Those are slogans, not serious policy. And that's why I think he may not make it past the GOP. And I wonder what they dig up on him.

The worst possible outcome is the GOP winning again and being worse than George Bush. Could you imagine worse than George Bush? A scary thought indeed.

 

[DarkFury]

You better start liking Bernie. He's all you got.

 

[Billy000]

First, I would never follow a leader that looks homeless. It just can't be. But put that aside.

Bernie insists he wants to concentrate on the issues and that's why he won't talk about his opponents. Wow, sounds good. Sounds moral. Only it's a crock of shit. It may work in the Democratic Primary, but you have to remember, in the general election, you will be dealing with the worst America has to offer, Republicans.

Republicans have spent tens of millions just during the Clinton Administration trying to find "something" and all they got was a blow job. Sure, there was an impeachment. A political stunt that never got farther than the house. Most reports put the cost just over 40 million. How much have they spent of tax payer money on going after the Obama Administration? Wanna bet, after it's all said and sifted, it will turn out to be over 200 million? The original cost of the Iraq war? Republicans want to run the country their way. They don't care if it hurts the country. Worse, the GOP base has no idea what their leaders are doing, even more worse, they don't care.

And it will only make Hillary stronger. The woman who took on the entire GOP ---- and WON! I can imagine her right now be called to testify and saying, well, Colin Powell had private email and George Bush had a private server during his entire 8 years of his administration. Well, not the entire 8 years. As soon as the case of outing a covert CIA agent that spoke out about GOP lies became public, the server was wiped and destroyed. Oops.

Now, I don't know anything at all about Bernie's private life, but if he is a slob now, I suspect he's always been a slob and that's why he doesn't want anyone to question his past. But they may not even have to. Bernie has described himself as a "socialist". The most basic definition of socialism is the government controlling production. Something that is absolutely anti American. Against everything the free market stands for. The government stepping in and stopping business from fleecing the American public, something Republicans totally support, or stepping in to keep necessary business from dying, like auto companies or helping with research is NOT government controlling production. What ever Republicans will have you believe.

You can't just "redistribute wealth". It's not possible. Money is taking something that has no real value and assigning it a value so it can be traded for things that actually have value. So much easier than trading two chickens and some apples for a pair of shoes. Spreading it around unearned reduces it to no value at all.

What we need to do is instead of just spending research money on new "stuff", we need to do some research on the kind of jobs needed by our society in this century. Some things are a given, whether it's being a plumber or being a scientist, you need education. No more 6th grade education is enough. We know there are over 5 million jobs open right now. Good jobs. What is being done to get people ready for them? Nothing. It has to be targeted. Just making education cheaper isn't enough.

Unfortunately, that's Bernie Sander's message. Socialist, redistribution of wealth, cheaper education and so on. Those are slogans, not serious policy. And that's why I think he may not make it past the GOP. And I wonder what they dig up on him.

The worst possible outcome is the GOP winning again and being worse than George Bush. Could you imagine worse than George Bush? A scary thought indeed.

I think it's pretty lame you would judge Bernie as a president based upon his appearance. Secondly, nothing Bernie is proposing has anything to do with the "redistribution of wealth".

I will agree that him becoming the nominee makes me nervous. It really could cost the democrats the election. The idea of another republican president being elected at a time when both the country and the world are in a very fragile state is nothing short of a dystopian scenario.

 

[Obiwan]

1. He can't win...

2. He's kicking Hillary's ass...

3. A bumbling idiot that can't keep his hands off underage girls is about to kick HIS ass...


Did that sum it up???

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why Bernie Sanders concerns me.

He concerns you? I can't imagine why. Same with Trump...

 

[David_42]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

 

[Zander]

Bernie is a crackpot. Biden is a retard. Democrats are faced with Hobson's choice.......

 

[Billy000]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

Exactly. Well said.

 

[DarkFury]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

I don't like the policy of Bernie Sanders but I DO feel he is honest, maybe more honest then ANY DNC member running. Scratch that...He IS more honest then ANY DNC member running.

But for rdum to look at him and call him "homeless?" That's low even for a democrat.

 

[rdean]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

 

[rdean]

You better start liking Bernie. He's all you got.

Right wing propaganda. Ignorant and untrue as usual.

 

[David_42]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

Go to his website, look at his proposals, he has a plan to put millions to work rebuilding our infrastructure, provide employment opportunities to teenagers..

 

[Dad2three]

First, I would never follow a leader that looks homeless. It just can't be. But put that aside.

Bernie insists he wants to concentrate on the issues and that's why he won't talk about his opponents. Wow, sounds good. Sounds moral. Only it's a crock of shit. It may work in the Democratic Primary, but you have to remember, in the general election, you will be dealing with the worst America has to offer, Republicans.

Republicans have spent tens of millions just during the Clinton Administration trying to find "something" and all they got was a blow job. Sure, there was an impeachment. A political stunt that never got farther than the house. Most reports put the cost just over 40 million. How much have they spent of tax payer money on going after the Obama Administration? Wanna bet, after it's all said and sifted, it will turn out to be over 200 million? The original cost of the Iraq war? Republicans want to run the country their way. They don't care if it hurts the country. Worse, the GOP base has no idea what their leaders are doing, even more worse, they don't care.

And it will only make Hillary stronger. The woman who took on the entire GOP ---- and WON! I can imagine her right now be called to testify and saying, well, Colin Powell had private email and George Bush had a private server during his entire 8 years of his administration. Well, not the entire 8 years. As soon as the case of outing a covert CIA agent that spoke out about GOP lies became public, the server was wiped and destroyed. Oops.

Now, I don't know anything at all about Bernie's private life, but if he is a slob now, I suspect he's always been a slob and that's why he doesn't want anyone to question his past. But they may not even have to. Bernie has described himself as a "socialist". The most basic definition of socialism is the government controlling production. Something that is absolutely anti American. Against everything the free market stands for. The government stepping in and stopping business from fleecing the American public, something Republicans totally support, or stepping in to keep necessary business from dying, like auto companies or helping with research is NOT government controlling production. What ever Republicans will have you believe.

You can't just "redistribute wealth". It's not possible. Money is taking something that has no real value and assigning it a value so it can be traded for things that actually have value. So much easier than trading two chickens and some apples for a pair of shoes. Spreading it around unearned reduces it to no value at all.

What we need to do is instead of just spending research money on new "stuff", we need to do some research on the kind of jobs needed by our society in this century. Some things are a given, whether it's being a plumber or being a scientist, you need education. No more 6th grade education is enough. We know there are over 5 million jobs open right now. Good jobs. What is being done to get people ready for them? Nothing. It has to be targeted. Just making education cheaper isn't enough.

Unfortunately, that's Bernie Sander's message. Socialist, redistribution of wealth, cheaper education and so on. Those are slogans, not serious policy. And that's why I think he may not make it past the GOP. And I wonder what they dig up on him.

The worst possible outcome is the GOP winning again and being worse than George Bush. Could you imagine worse than George Bush? A scary thought indeed.

A self-described democratic socialist,he favors policies similar to those of social democratic parties in Europe, particularly those instituted by the Nordic countries


Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist who admires the Nordic model of social democracy and is a proponent of workplace democracy. Many commentators have noted the consistency of his views throughout his political career.


He focuses on economic issues such as income and wealth inequality, raising the minimum wage, universal healthcare, reducing the burden of student debt, making public colleges and universities tuition-free by taxing financial transactions, and expanding Social Security benefits by eliminating the cap on the payroll tax on all income above $250,000.

Sanders has become a prominent supporter of laws requiring companies to provide their workers paternity leave, sick leave, and vacation time, noting that such laws have been adopted by almost every developed country.] He also supports legislation that would make it easier for workers to join or form a union. Sanders advocates bold action to reverse global warming and infrastructure investment in the United States, with "energy efficiency and sustainability" as a prominent goal. He is opposed to the Trans-Pacific Partnership

Sanders has advocated for more democratic participation by citizens, campaign finance reform and the overturn of Citizens United

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rdean]

First, I would never follow a leader that looks homeless. It just can't be. But put that aside.

Bernie insists he wants to concentrate on the issues and that's why he won't talk about his opponents. Wow, sounds good. Sounds moral. Only it's a crock of shit. It may work in the Democratic Primary, but you have to remember, in the general election, you will be dealing with the worst America has to offer, Republicans.

Republicans have spent tens of millions just during the Clinton Administration trying to find "something" and all they got was a blow job. Sure, there was an impeachment. A political stunt that never got farther than the house. Most reports put the cost just over 40 million. How much have they spent of tax payer money on going after the Obama Administration? Wanna bet, after it's all said and sifted, it will turn out to be over 200 million? The original cost of the Iraq war? Republicans want to run the country their way. They don't care if it hurts the country. Worse, the GOP base has no idea what their leaders are doing, even more worse, they don't care.

And it will only make Hillary stronger. The woman who took on the entire GOP ---- and WON! I can imagine her right now be called to testify and saying, well, Colin Powell had private email and George Bush had a private server during his entire 8 years of his administration. Well, not the entire 8 years. As soon as the case of outing a covert CIA agent that spoke out about GOP lies became public, the server was wiped and destroyed. Oops.

Now, I don't know anything at all about Bernie's private life, but if he is a slob now, I suspect he's always been a slob and that's why he doesn't want anyone to question his past. But they may not even have to. Bernie has described himself as a "socialist". The most basic definition of socialism is the government controlling production. Something that is absolutely anti American. Against everything the free market stands for. The government stepping in and stopping business from fleecing the American public, something Republicans totally support, or stepping in to keep necessary business from dying, like auto companies or helping with research is NOT government controlling production. What ever Republicans will have you believe.

You can't just "redistribute wealth". It's not possible. Money is taking something that has no real value and assigning it a value so it can be traded for things that actually have value. So much easier than trading two chickens and some apples for a pair of shoes. Spreading it around unearned reduces it to no value at all.

What we need to do is instead of just spending research money on new "stuff", we need to do some research on the kind of jobs needed by our society in this century. Some things are a given, whether it's being a plumber or being a scientist, you need education. No more 6th grade education is enough. We know there are over 5 million jobs open right now. Good jobs. What is being done to get people ready for them? Nothing. It has to be targeted. Just making education cheaper isn't enough.

Unfortunately, that's Bernie Sander's message. Socialist, redistribution of wealth, cheaper education and so on. Those are slogans, not serious policy. And that's why I think he may not make it past the GOP. And I wonder what they dig up on him.

The worst possible outcome is the GOP winning again and being worse than George Bush. Could you imagine worse than George Bush? A scary thought indeed.

I think it's pretty lame you would judge Bernie as a president based upon his appearance. Secondly, nothing Bernie is proposing has anything to do with the "redistribution of wealth".

I will agree that him becoming the nominee makes me nervous. It really could cost the democrats the election. The idea of another republican president being elected at a time when both the country and the world are in a very fragile state is nothing short of a dystopian scenario.

Clothes don't make the man. But they can say an awful lot about him. Believe it.

 

[DarkFury]

Bernie is a crackpot. Biden is a retard. Democrats are faced with Hobson's choice.......

Using rdum's logic here. May give me a headache but here goes.
Hillary....Nursing home.
Bernie....Homeless shelter.
Joe......Mental hospital.

What could go wrong?

 

[Obiwan]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

Why not???

You let Hillary lie and engage in felonies , and Biden paw underage girls....

Yeah, run with it....

 

[rdean]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

Go to his website, look at his proposals, he has a plan to put millions to work rebuilding our infrastructure, provide employment opportunities to teenagers..

Since you must have read it, if he doesn't have a plan that pays for it, then there really is no plan at all. So is there a plan to pay for it?

 

[rdean]

Bernie is a crackpot. Biden is a retard. Democrats are faced with Hobson's choice.......

Using rdum's logic here. May give me a headache but here goes.
Hillary....Nursing home.
Bernie....Homeless shelter.
Joe......Mental hospital.

What could go wrong?

Fuck off dipshit.

 

[rdean]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

Why not???

You let Hillary lie and engage in felonies , and Biden paw underage girls....

Yeah, run with it....

Ah, unfounded slander. The tools of the GOP. See what I mean? And they call themselves "moral". Hilarious!

 

[David_42]

Woah rdean, you need to look into sanders policies, he has actual proposals and has a record of decades, he's literally a moderate compared to other countries.. His proposals are supported by Americans and the closest thing to redistribution he wants is progressive taxation, which every other country has on a much higher scale, mostly.

As I was writing this, I was listening to Bernie Sanders talk on TV. I didn't really hear any policies, just slogans. Even Republicans say we need jobs. But ask them "what kind of jobs" and all you get is a blank look. Bernie can't get away with just saying slogans.

Go to his website, look at his proposals, he has a plan to put millions to work rebuilding our infrastructure, provide employment opportunities to teenagers..

Since you must have read it, if he doesn't have a plan that pays for it, then there really is no plan at all. So is there a plan to pay for it?

Yes, read his website, he lays out many things. Some things aren't 100% yet, after all, we're a year away, but still.